bunch of sissy girly-men like the stoolers are.

And Ben Rothlicksboogers won't have Polly Moo-moo to bail him out this week.

I wonder who shows Ben where the stadium is every home game....

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Well, the Browns certainly won. And they did kick steeler butt, especially Bigfoot Gay Rothlicksboogers.

And say, I have to apologize to the refs for the most part - they didn't give pass interference calls to Whines Hard or

any other steeler receiver when they run into the defender and cry "foul", then if they get the penalty,

they go to the sidelines and ROF,L ...

And, the squeelers didn't take out Quinn's knee, but one of them tried to break Cribb's back on a very late hit. Cribbs had been

tackled, was flat on the ground, the defender still holding his legs I think, and sure enough, a vicious shoulder to Cribbs' back.

but, wow, no call.

But, the defense ruled the day. Eight sacks on Bigfoot Ben !!!

And the squeelers never led. Nope.

I guess Ben has trouble reading defenses, holding the ball too long.. or something.

Nah, he's just stupid.

@hoorta said:

Yeah the Mighty Steelers have lost to the Chiefs and Raiders- enjoy watching the playoffs at home, just like the Browns.

Umm, I'm a Browns fan.

I'm just more realistic than most of you.

JosephSixpack said:

Now, this is more in line with what should be expected. Yes, the Steelers are playing below standards. And yes there was a positive for Cleveland even in a loss last week. So it's not unreasonable for Brownie fans to look for an upset. But that's a bit different than expecting a "blowout" or "butt kicking" as some of the giddier fans here are talking about. If not one single opponent the Steelers have faced this year -- most teams frankly better than Cleveland -- have been able to blow out the Steelers, why all of a sudden should the Brownies be expected to? That's all I'm asking.

Perhaps it is a matter of semantics. I am simply saying that your team, or any team, is as good as it plays this year. For someone to state that a team is subpar implies that they are supposed to be better than their record shows. But I don't buy that. You are as good as your record. If you were better than your record shows, then your record would be better.

Are the Browns better than a 1-11 team? I wish, but they aren't.

Are the Steelers better than a 6-6 team? You wish, but they aren't.

And you can't go saying that you are a better team because you were better last year. Last year is history. Two years ago the Browns were 10-6. Should we say this team has to be better because that team was 10-6?

Can a team play better? Probably. All teams can. Maybe the Browns can wind up 5-11. Not likely though.

Maybe the Steelers will end up 10-6. Not likely though. I suspect when all is said and done, the Browns will probably be about a 2-14 team, and the Steelers an 8-8 team. Just about where they stand now.

@the-gipper said:

i know that case........it's the skokie, il case but the name is eluding me......i've taken my fair share of constitutional law as well

JosephSixpack said:

Also, it is entirely true that your boy has visited a well-known Steelers site to post nothing else but trash, as a troll. Yep troll. He was never banned, no matter how much smack he talked. So pardon me while I savor the irony.

Well, if it is true, I am not in favor of that sort of censorship. As an attorney who has studied my share of constititional law, I will quote (paraphrase) a Supreme Court Chief Justice who made this statement in one of the Nazi free speech cases: The antidote to countering an unpopular opinion is not censorship, but more speech. (or perhaps it was George Orwell who said it)

JosephSixpack said:

Also, it is entirely true that your boy has visited a well-known Steelers site to post nothing else but trash, as a troll. Yep troll. He was never banned, no matter how much smack he talked. So pardon me while I savor the irony.

Joe, that's between you and Stan, and I know most, but not all of the story.

As far as Steeler trolls here go, there's a difference between smack talk and shameless gloating. I'll put up with the former, but not most of the latter- especially the grade school "we're great, you suck" variety.

The weather report for steeler fans is: Warm and sunny, temps reaching into the 90's...

That should put the big chill in steeler fans cheers.

I think Cribbs scores TD's, ben gay bonks his head again during pre game warm ups,

and the steeler defense will try to take out one of Quinn's knees if they are close to winning...

But the Browns should win. It depends, though, on how many crucial first downs they are given by the refs even

though they are a few inches short.... etc... etc....

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

I can't believe how vital Polly is to your team. I think you win 3 of those losses with him on the field. I think another part of this is your team got too satisfied with last year's results to remember how important it is to stay hungry. That doesn't come at the snap of a finger.

If Polly's healthy and plays tomorrow night - you'll win pretty easy. If he's not in your lineup, the browns have proven they can beat themselves without any help from thewir opponent.

Every time I've tried to get excited for a game this year - reality kicked me right between the lookers like a steel toe on Kung Fu's foot.

- Tom F.

@the-gipper said:

i dont totally agree because look at what you posted ... The Lions gave us a BIG Scare , The Cheifs and Raiders BEAT us. I am concerned that we are just a COMPETITIVE Team... but NOT a Good team. I will be Shocked if this doesn't come down to the wire. IMHO.

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

Well, lets face it, the Browns are performing lousy, and it is in all probabaility because they are lousy. It would be an upset of epic proportion for them to win, this game. I mean, perhaps they could be expected to be competitive with the likes of the Lions, Bills, Chiefs, but they have truly not been competitive with any of the halfway competent teams they have faced this year, including the Chargers. So, the Steelers could play a completely lousy game, and still win.

@kosar_for_president said:

most not quitting Bernie for Prez.... And if a few Are then ...You see the Bandwagon Tire marks on their faces as they were trampled by it when Falling off. Good riddance to them. They are they guys who like to Totally Diss you guys anyway with all the name calling. Old Guard Steeler fans DONT DO THAT. Thats my opinion . because we remember when it wasnt so easy with you guys. I am on the fence about Thursday. Our Team is ripe to lose , but our team is also well Aware we need to Play better. Thats a Dual edged sword as far as the game goes tomorrow. Either Our guys tighten up and have a tough time or Relax and start to play like capable. Though the capability is diminished overall, Browns have a Huge opportunity to at least put a wrinkle in this domination of recent history.

JosephSixpack said:

I and others have been "disappeared" here simply for the Steelers winning. I used to post here all the time, win or lose, then one day the Steelers won the Bowl and bam -- see ya later, Joe. So I don't owe you squat -- I don't have to show up in case the Brownies do finally pull off the miraculous upset. Because it hasn't been a two-way street. Understand? You can't have it both ways.

And as for Steelers boards, your boy Skippy has bombed one that I know of plenty of times. And he hasn't been banned. Which is why I find the banning that goes on here extra hilarious.

I defy you to prove that anything of yours has been edited or censored.

Let's ask Atenears, he is the owner of the board as I understand it.

Are Steeler trolls BS edited or not? I bet not.

JosephSixpack said:

Now then -- the Steelers have definitely played under par. Thing is, though, they've controlled every game they've lost, blowing leads late -- but have never lost by more than a field goal. Do you realize this?

So I understand you getting all foamy and giddy about pulling one off here -- but really, "kicking butt"? Against the Steelers? With YOUR team? This opinion is based on what exactly?

Like the other guy said, shit-stained glasses or something...

Played under par?

A famous sage once said...you are what your record says you are. The Steelers are a .500 team, no more, no less. Your record is your par.

And the Browns are a 1-11 team. Should we sit here and proclaim that the Browns are also playing "below par"? No, no more than the Steelers are.

JosephSixpack said:

That is a pile of horse hockey. You guys have been on here all off season (and if I recall correctly, you won the last game before the offseason...correct me if I am wrong). You were on here in droves during the first 8 games of the season when you were 6-2. No, it is only the last few weeks that your ilk seemed to disappear. But you didn't, obviously, congratulations. At least you had the kohones to show up.

JosephSixpack said:

and the answer was your defense sucks......not too hard to understand. the only way we win big is because you defense is over-rated and folds to poor teams.

that is the answer. sorry you dont understand it.

The Steelers i see now are not the superbowl champions of last year. They are totally subpar. Add to it the fact that BQ is slowly progressing and the rookie and fringe players of Cleveland are improving - I see a very good possibility for an upset.

bunch of sissy girly-men like the stoolers are.

And Ben Rothlicksboogers won't have Polly Moo-moo to bail him out this week.

I wonder who shows Ben where the stadium is every home game....

JosephSixpack said:

the inability for your defense to put away poor teams. close losses is one thing....close losses to the poorest NFL teams isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

losing is losing....by 3 points or by 30.

JosephSixpack said:

There's the douche bags! Again let me remind you. You are on a Browns board spewing Stooler rhetoric. 98% of the Stooler fans that come here are douche bags. If you can't take the heat get our of the kitchen. Stop whining about being censored on a BROWNS board. Guaranteed the same stuff happens on a Stooler board.

@ebenezer said:

Lets look at your "stools" dig. You tried to refer to the Steelers. But you failed.

Because anyone who reads the word "stools" automatically associates it with brown, stinky things that should be flushed down the toilet. Like the Browns.

Stop failing so much. Don't be a Mangina.

Typical Steeler trash-talk. Mendenhall's hurt, Poly-moo-moo's out, Whines Hard at best will be running around on one leg (if he plays at all), and Ben's one good shot away from sitting out the season. If you didn't notice the Browns contained LaDanian Tomlinson last week who I daresay is better than anything the Steelers have on their roster.

Yeah the Mighty Steelers have lost to the Chiefs and Raiders- enjoy watching the playoffs at home, just like the Browns.

@calfoxwc said:

I hate it. Dammit, I really, really, really HATE it when

Doofus Daboll does that.

You can't keep a defense honest by being predictable.

He needs to let his offense play the game, and stop being such a wonderwuss.

Yeah, Dumb-bol hasn't figured out yet the Browns are far, far away from being able to dictate plays on offense.

@gips said:

Thats funny. I just wish it wasn't true

how far you've fallen from grace....lol