@gips said:

If mangini had let daboll go and had handled BQ right amongst a couple dozen other idiotic moves ,perhaps many people would feel differently but he didnt ,instead he chose to waste my time for 13 weeks watching my team sink to new lows and watching ex-jets and rejects like poteat play under a system that doesnt match the players he himself brought in instead of seeing rookies bond and a team moving forward ,his idea of rebuilding over the longhaul is the same as rebuilding since 1964 ,its more intended at keeping him and daboll employed for years as opposed to whipping the team into shape..this guy is a real snake..a wolf in sheeps clothing...

Keeping this guy just to stop the coaching carousal wont work out well for anyone..we need the right people from top to bottom ,in that order...

...let's see. Fire your OC at the beginning of the season? A lot of good that did for Tampa and Buffalo. You consistently inundate us with these moronic points of view and if he'd fired the dude, he'd be "disloyal" or "waffling";

I don't see the QB controversy as a disaster from a coaching standpoint. It was a disaster from a talent standpoint. As much as DA sucked, BQ didn't do anything to show he belonged on the field either.

This site needs an "ignore" button so I can ignore moronic idiots like you. Isn't your mama about to put you to bed little boy?

@brownrebel said:

On the other hand, we are improving (whether or not this is a fluke or actual improvement remains to be seen). Also, as bad as we've looked, 1 year isn't a fair judgment for any coach, especially given our talent level. Finally, I'm not sure who we'd hire if we can this guy. I'm all for it if we can get a guy like Holmgren, but if he and the other big names turn us down (don't see Shanahan or Cowher coming here) I think we should see what happens next year.

I can be easily swayed on this matter though.

Cowher ? Nooooo !

On the other hand, we are improving (whether or not this is a fluke or actual improvement remains to be seen). Also, as bad as we've looked, 1 year isn't a fair judgment for any coach, especially given our talent level. Finally, I'm not sure who we'd hire if we can this guy. I'm all for it if we can get a guy like Holmgren, but if he and the other big names turn us down (don't see Shanahan or Cowher coming here) I think we should see what happens next year.

I can be easily swayed on this matter though.

Does any one know why we dropped Rucker, from what I saw dude could catch the ball?

i love it when folks are oblivious to their own ignorance.

If mangini had let daboll go and had handled BQ right amongst a couple dozen other idiotic moves ,perhaps many people would feel differently but he didnt ,instead he chose to waste my time for 13 weeks watching my team sink to new lows and watching ex-jets and rejects like poteat play under a system that doesnt match the players he himself brought in instead of seeing rookies bond and a team moving forward ,his idea of rebuilding over the longhaul is the same as rebuilding since 1964 ,its more intended at keeping him and daboll employed for years as opposed to whipping the team into shape..this guy is a real snake..a wolf in sheeps clothing...

Keeping this guy just to stop the coaching carousal wont work out well for anyone..we need the right people from top to bottom ,in that order...

@alporcini said:

Robo had to "earn" his time by commiting to special teams..Mangini understands Robo was a 2nd rounder and instead of just letting him play to save face or his ass, he had the balls and intregrity to sit Robo until he proved he belonged on the field..f**kin A to that !!

Harrison's pass blocking was brutal and he was getting both QB's killed in early games, apparently Mangini sat his ass until he made a commitment to be a total player..did you see Harrison pass blocking vs SD..freakin awesome! Its exactly what a coach is supposed to do.

These are the intangibles Mangini has brought to the Browns..This is good stuff and how you build a winning franchise

for the long haul..discipline,accountibilty,toughness,play hard to the final whistle.

Mangini found two guys on the street (Roth and Moore) who are pretty damn good.Mangini type guys

Look the roster is in need of play makers we knew that before Mangini arrived, the two we had(K2 and BE)

were selfcentered schmucks and had to go..we all know that. This thing in Cleveland is being constructed the

right way..no question about it

I'll give you a perfect example to the fact you need play makers.

The head guy now at Indy (i forgot his name), he's undefeated right

Why the hell isn't every paper and and online blog writing what a unbelievable coach he is

Hell.. a rookie head coach undefeated

Two reasons.Its doesn't sell papers like trash does and everyone thinks Manning,Wayne, Addai, Freeney

and the beast of a DT are the reason he's winning..not the coach.Hell I thought the old white guy was the`coach

not the old black guy..lol .Not until I saw the`Indy game the other night. They barely showed the guy on the

sideline during the game..hell they show Mangini every 3 seconds

Point is you need playmakers and it takes time to develop and accrue such talent

Troy polomu is considered one of the best SS in football..He played nickle and special teams

his 1st year...just sayin

@585dawg said:

What would winning the game have done? Nothing drastically different. We would have just been 2-10 instead of 1-11. I'm not saying that I like us losing, but I'm also not getting pissy because we're having a god-awful year. We have god-awful players, a god-awful OC, and no GM whatsoever. Going into this season, I knew we would be knocking at the door of a 2-14 season. At least we're actually following a plan and trying to develop an identity. It's better than the shit that's been put on the field for the past 10 years.

@585dawg said:

Granted, I liked the way we played in the Chargers game... Roth and Trusnik (sp) were nice pickups.. but the game plan v. the Bengals was a disaster coming off the Lions... and for all Mangini's kudo for Robiskie and Harrison (who blew up his man with a block on the 43 yarder), where the heck have these guys been all season... Mangini's trying to put spin wherever he can...

@dachums said:

damn right!

@peterbell said:

"It's a good group of guys that care about what they're doing," he said. "They work hard. I haven't sat back and questioned their work ethic at any point. I don't think it's the way that any of us had wanted it to go. I think they appreciated the progress that they have made in different areas. They care about each other. They care about the team, and I can't imagine them playing any other way."

Mangini has preached unity since taking over in Cleveland. He believes cohesion breeds championships.

The Browns may be a long way from a title, but there is togetherness."We all look at each other as brothers," fullback Lawrence Vickers said. "It's a big family oriented team and nothing is going to break that up regardless how much people try. That's what players in our position have to do, put our backs against the wall and let's hold each other's hand and let's get through it. That's how families overcome things. You gotta stick together through whatever."

I think that this positive energy from the team is obvious and speaks well of the coach. I would be sorry to see Mangini go.