<![CDATA[the 61 year old Walrus]]>Mike Holmgren made a name for himself coaching Brett Favre and the Green Bay Packers however what a lot of people overlook was the GM Ron Wolf who should be credited with building the Packers into a force in the 1990's.

It was Ron Wolf who had the personnel decisions making a trade to get Brett Favre from Atlanta and signing free agent Reggie White to add to an already potent team. Ron Wolf made the difference in Green Bay not Holmgren.

Also Holmgren was fired from his duties as GM of the Seattle Seahawks and did nothing special in Seattle - The NFC West was a very weak conference.

Holmgren is 61 years old and looking for his last gig and getting a huge payday.Mike Holmgren recommended a washout coach from Atlanta - Jim Mora - to take his place after he bailed out. He had a 72-56 (56.3%) regular season record with the Seahawks and a less than steller 3-4 (42.9%) postseason record.

Jim Mora had a marginal record with Atlanta 26–22 (.542) and is a failure in Seattle.

Mike Holgren is looking for his last big payday and got it with Cleveland but he won't be able to compete in the AFC North for at least 4 years when he will cash out and retire. The Super Bowl still runs through Pittsburgh as the old Bum Phillips used to say and that will not change.

The Browns made another bad move hiring this over the hill non-qualified upper management guru who has no experience in the front office.

I think Randy Lerner is infatuated with anyone who has a Super Bowl Ring(s). He thinks it will rub off somehow but good teams seek out young talent to take over and lead the team for decades not a quick fix. And this is a move Lerner did to appease the fans and keep the money rolling in.

You will get better but still be the basement AFC North team for years to come.

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@kosar_for_president said:

And we know how the front runner fans felt by week 13.

21,067 people showed up at Pitt Stadium.

Now we talk about history....

p.s. same season 84,078 showed to watch the Browns beat the Steelers in Cleveland

That's perfect example of a lot of people questioning Noll's ability. Doubt Noll's ability after a record 4 Super Bowls and a HOF acreer later. Any amount of failure will result in questioning, even if the won in question turns out to be a HOFer. Tomlin was questioned during the streak, but has proven he can lead a team to the Super Bowl.

I don't think any is claiming the Steelers had a huge or the best fanbase prior to the 60's. After the success in the 70's our fanbase has grown with the team and still sells out even through some disasterous times.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/147303https://brownsboard.com/post/147303Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:35:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the 61 year old Walrus on Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:16:01 GMT]]>QUOTE (bigsteelerfanhere @ Dec 24 2009, 01:43 AM) *

until you win a super bowl STFU... do it you Retarded backwards ass excuse for an NFL team.

when will you crybabies learn how to play football and win?

@beefjerky said:

yeah you say it like we're the actual players and that fans control the franchise, and I'll tell you this much, I'll be glad for your fat ugly slow ass to come play me in football any day.

ROTFL- Short Bus is just POed because our Retarded franchise just beat his Retarded franchise. Seems we played pretty well on Thursday night, and the Mighty Steelers got embarrassed losing AGAIN.

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@bigsteelerfanhere said:

until you win a super bowl STFU... do it you Retarded backwards ass excuse for an NFL team.

when will you crybabies learn how to play football and win?

yeah you say it like we're the actual players and that fans control the franchise, and I'll tell you this much, I'll be glad for your fat ugly slow ass to come play me in football any day.

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@bigsteelerfanhere said:

Holmgren is 61 years old and looking for his last gig and getting a huge payday.Mike Holmgren recommended a washout coach from Atlanta - Jim Mora - to take his place after he bailed out. He had a 72-56 (56.3%) regular season record with the Seahawks and a less than steller 3-4 (42.9%) postseason record.

The Super Bowl still runs through Pittsburgh as the old Bum Phillips used to say and that will not change.

1) Holmgren drafted Shawn Alexander and Steve Hutchinson, In case you forgot.

2) The Super Bowl runs through Cincinnati & Indianapolis this year, Short Bus. De-nile is a river in Egypt.

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Sivlerback DPOY said:

Everybody is questioning Tomlin's ability after the 5 game lsoing streak, but how do you think people felt about Noll after losing 13 straight his first year as head coach. Most players on this team are here from the Cowher era but don't think Tomlin hasn't brought in good players.

Timmons, Woodley, Speath, Sepulveda, Gay, Moore, Leftwhich, Dixon, Mendenhal, Baily, Wallace, Logan, Fox, Foster and Retkofsky have all had notable success in the 3 or less years with the team.

Sepulveda? You mean the highest drafted punter since Ray Guy? He had damn well better be the second coming.

Leftwitch? You're bragging about backup quarterbacks?

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Sivlerback DPOY said:

people felt about Noll after losing 13 straight his first year as head coach.

And we know how the front runner fans felt by week 13.

21,067 people showed up at Pitt Stadium.

Now we talk about history....

p.s. same season 84,078 showed to watch the Browns beat the Steelers in Cleveland

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Sivlerback DPOY said:

Noll after losing 13 straight his first year as head coach.

Got it.

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@gips said:

Stooler fan you are wrong ,we will be coming out of the basement and now that cowhers build is dying you are about to enter it and man is it going to feel good dominating pukesburghs sorry asses year in and year out ,tomlin looks a little weak and ill sorta lost looking here recently almost like he wants to cry or needs to ask bill cowher about a few things aye?

If mangini wasnt such a puke and daboll was a creative type ,we would have kicked the stoolers ass twice the talent is there but flexible ,creative coaching was not..as others on here say mangini is trying to put round shapes in square holes ,it just doesnt fit...

Everybody is questioning Tomlin's ability after the 5 game lsoing streak, but how do you think people felt about Noll after losing 13 straight his first year as head coach. Most players on this team are here from the Cowher era but don't think Tomlin hasn't brought in good players.

Timmons, Woodley, Speath, Sepulveda, Gay, Moore, Leftwhich, Dixon, Mendenhal, Baily, Wallace, Logan, Fox, Foster and Retkofsky have all had notable success in the 3 or less years with the team.

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@bigsteelerfanhere said:

you'd better study up. The Steelers are still in the playoff hunt.. you ruined nothing.. again...

OOOOOH ! Planning on unleashing a little 😆 "HELL IN 😆 Decemb 😁 er" haha

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/147007https://brownsboard.com/post/147007Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:10:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the 61 year old Walrus on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:13:06 GMT]]>Stooler fan you are wrong ,we will be coming out of the basement and now that cowhers build is dying you are about to enter it and man is it going to feel good dominating pukesburghs sorry asses year in and year out ,tomlin looks a little weak and ill sorta lost looking here recently almost like he wants to cry or needs to ask bill cowher about a few things aye?

If mangini wasnt such a puke and daboll was a creative type ,we would have kicked the stoolers ass twice the talent is there but flexible ,creative coaching was not..as others on here say mangini is trying to put round shapes in square holes ,it just doesnt fit...

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@diehardbrownsfan said:

Why are squeeler fans attracted to their relatives?

funny you say that. i live in west virginia and i'm surrounded by steelers fans.

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@bigsteelerfanhere said:

We win Super Bowls you don't.. Stark Reality..

Is it in the genes in Brownstown to be perpetual losers?

Why are squeeler fans attracted to their relatives?

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@bigsteelerfanhere said:

you'd better study up. The Steelers are still in the playoff hunt.. you ruined nothing.. again...

Actually, "we" did, as the loss to the Browns put the Steelers dead last behind all other teams when it comes to the tiebreakers. They would have to better the record of all those other teams they are in the hunt with. Any ties and they lose.

Beyond that, note this: Holmgren isn't here to coach. His coaching record thus is superfluous. It is his organizational ability that will be put to the test here. One thing we perhaps should agree on is that Holmgren should not be GM AND Coach. That, I believes, proves too much for the man.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/146921https://brownsboard.com/post/146921Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:45:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the 61 year old Walrus on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:44:49 GMT]]>We win Super Bowls you don't.. Stark Reality..

Is it in the genes in Brownstown to be perpetual losers?

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@bigsteelerfanhere said:

you'd better study up. The Steelers are still in the playoff hunt.. you ruined nothing.. again...

Yea there lost in the forest trying to find there way home with there tails between there legs. I seen Hines crying on the bench when we whooped you.

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@bigsteelerfanhere said:

what is funny is the browns seem attracted to losers and losers are attracted to the Browns..

How does it feel way down there in the standings year after year..You've got the Big L on your forehead Lerner.

Homlgren has no successful front office experience and is 61..yeah right, good choice!

And, you are on the Browns board. Ergo, proving your point apparently by your presence that the Browns attract losers.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/146915https://brownsboard.com/post/146915Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:41:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the 61 year old Walrus on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:40:57 GMT]]>sorry but last year your coach still had Bills team. This year he has piece's of Bill teams and in the next few years when all the pieces are gone from Bills team, your going to be at the bottom because your record proves he's incompitent so I woudln't be trash talking just yet.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/146914https://brownsboard.com/post/146914Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:40:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the 61 year old Walrus on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:40:05 GMT]]>you'd better study up. The Steelers are still in the playoff hunt.. you ruined nothing.. again...

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@bigsteelerfanhere said:

The Super Bowl still runs through Pittsburgh as the old Bum Phillips used to say and that will not change.

Sorry but any chance you had for a superbowl this year was ruined by the Browns, aka the"basement team" as you like to call it. Trust me, it doesn't say much for you.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/146912https://brownsboard.com/post/146912Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:38:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the 61 year old Walrus on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:34:58 GMT]]>what is funny is the browns seem attracted to losers and losers are attracted to the Browns..

How does it feel way down there in the standings year after year..You've got the Big L on your forehead Lerner.

Homlgren has no successful front office experience and is 61..yeah right, good choice!

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/146909https://brownsboard.com/post/146909Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:34:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the 61 year old Walrus on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:32:55 GMT]]>Your still pissed that the Browns made the squeelers look like a high school football team when they kicked there a$$? Get over it already. btw, I wouldn't talk to much. Pissburgh isnt going anywhere anytime soon execpt down.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/146908https://brownsboard.com/post/146908Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:32:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to the 61 year old Walrus on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:26:51 GMT]]>Obvious beastialic homosexual latency towards walruses...

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