@joesixpat said:

$$ is one of the most important things to a football owner. Mangini has this team on a "roll" coming off a hard fought win against the Chiefs and yet its thil much effort to sell out the game?

This may be one of the biggest factors working against Mangini. Fans aren't fooled. They see wins against the Chiefs, Bills - and potentially Raiders and don't feel like the team is necessarilly headed in the right direction for some reason.

Your a total idiot. Quit stalking Mangini and follow the Patriots.

@joesixpat said:

$$ is one of the most important things to a football owner. Mangini has this team on a "roll" coming off a hard fought win against the Chiefs and yet its thil much effort to sell out the game?

This may be one of the biggest factors working against Mangini. Fans aren't fooled. They see wins against the Chiefs, Bills - and potentially Raiders and don't feel like the team is necessarilly headed in the right direction for some reason.

Yeah, the Bengals should sh*tcan Marvin Lewis because they were facing a potential blackout, too. That's all on the coach. That's why the fans aren't going, because of Mangini. Yep, it's all him. I'm going to the game tomorrow in spite of Mangini.

Joe, seriously, we support the BROWNS. Eric Mangini, Marty Schottenheimer, Sam Rutigliano, and Paul Brown have always been secondary to our love of the BROWNS.

Take your Mangini hate elsewhere. I'm sure you'll have full opportunity to do that once the axe falls, undeservedly so, on our head coach after the season.

@joesixpat said:

$$ is one of the most important things to a football owner. Mangini has this team on a "roll" coming off a hard fought win against the Chiefs and yet its thil much effort to sell out the game?

This may be one of the biggest factors working against Mangini. Fans aren't fooled. They see wins against the Chiefs, Bills - and potentially Raiders and don't feel like the team is necessarilly headed in the right direction for some reason.

It's you who's not fooling anyone. We won 3 games, we still suck, and it's going to be in the 20's or 30's for both these games. Not even your beloved Patriots would sell out if they were in our shoes.

Gives a whole new meaning to this beer.

@atenears said:

The Browns also have seats remaining for the season finale Jan. 3 against the Jaguars.

Sooo.... If I'm Randy Lerner and Mike Holmgren, am I pleased with the state of the Browns under Mangini? Even in games that they SHOULD win the fans support Mangini so much that... they don't even sell out a game and a blackout looms.

$$ is one of the most important things to a football owner. Mangini has this team on a "roll" coming off a hard fought win against the Chiefs and yet its thil much effort to sell out the game?

This may be one of the biggest factors working against Mangini. Fans aren't fooled. They see wins against the Chiefs, Bills - and potentially Raiders and don't feel like the team is necessarilly headed in the right direction for some reason.

I guess my point is why would you ever have a black-out? It doesn't help a club to not be on television in the local market.

That, and when you set this precedent, people will begin to expect it, making it harder to sell tickets.

I can understand the TV station wanting it on for the advertising dollars and not having to pull out Gentle Ben re-runs to fill the 3 hours...those would be tough ads to sell. I can see them buying seats to promo off.

I wonder what the limit is before other owners would begin to get chapped...a few hundred tickets...a few thousand??