@howiedawg said:

From Clevelandbrowns.xom: Here are the Browns' 2010 opponents. Dates and times will be released in the spring. (My predictions!)

Home: Baltimore(W), Cincinnati(W), Pittsburgh(W), New England(L), N.Y. Jets(W), Atlanta(W), Carolina(W), Kansas City(W)

Away: Baltimore(L), Cincinnati(W), Pittsburgh(L), Buffalo(W), Miami(W), New Orleans(L), Tampa Bay(W), Jacksonville(W)

So that's a 12-4 season for us, can't wait, bring on the draft. Seriously, this is a decent opponent list.

i can't believe it! you mean we don't play the bears, the raiders or the lions this upcoming season?! it seemed like ateleast 2 out of those 3 teams were automatically put on the browns schedule every season.

@tampadawgs said:

Tampa- since I live in tampa

Miami

Jax

and going to Cleveland for the Pitt game

Are T Bay tix easy to get? That would be a fun road rip.

@clevelandfanforlife said:

yup just like pittsburg

@howiedawg said:

I'm in for a Florida Browns trip next season. Let's coordinate when the schedule comes out.

I bet my Candy Apple Red Chick Magnet Soccer Mom Van will look hot in the sun ... I'm 'cruising' down!

@theclevelandsound said:

The scheduling of those teams is NOT random. They are on the Browns schedule because they are the last place teams in the divisions that are not on the regular schedule. The Browns are scheduled obviously to play the other 3 teams in their division twice, plus all the teams in the NFC South, plus all the teams in the AFC East, plus the two teams in the other AFC divisions (in this case the South and West) that occupied the same position as the Browns. (In other words, first place plays first place, last place plays last place, etc. KC and Jax were last place, like the Browns). Thus that is why we play them.

@mudratdetector said:

i dont think they ever do steelers games in packages because they sell out regardless.

Tampa- since I live in tampa

Miami

Jax

and going to Cleveland for the Pitt game

What may be frightening to Holmgren is an easy schedule that makes even a bad coach look mediocre or even good.

If Holmgren's not fully sold on Mangini - and from the sounds of it he's not but wants to leave the impression that he's really giving Mangini a long hard look and fair chance to make his case - dumping Mangini after an 8-8 season is going to be very difficult given how ecstatic everyone in Cleveland is after a 5 win season.

With Holmgren's football ego riding on HIM gaining credit for turning the team around I can't see him keeping Mangini under such circumstances.

@theclevelandsound said:

The way the schedule is made out we rotate one AFC division and one NFC division for 8 games plus our 6 division games. The other two games are against the other two remaining AFC divisional teams in the same place in their division as the Browns (last place). Since KC and Jax both finished last in their divisions we play them.

For this reason Cinci will play Indy and San Diego - chaulk up 2 losses for them already for next year and stop bitchin about playing KC and Jax!!

On a side note, looking forward to seeing the Browns in Jax again, had a great time at the game 2 years ago!

@miktoxic said:

It's on the official Cleveland Browns website, so it's not "bogus".

Zombo said:

Zombo

I am going to check how cheap flights are to Fla next fall, maybe I can do a home and away fixture!! Zombo, can I sleep in your garage to keep costs down

@daydawg19 said:

wouldn't know. i know it's fing freezin in ny, though. nice avatar of gaydy quinn btw.

my biggest fear is the browns are awesome next year and get in the playoffs and seem like a team destined to make the turn, and all of a sudden there's no football in 2011. that's the luck of a browns fan.

@miktoxic said:

How's the weather out there in Oregon???

With disciplined players, a good ground game and a strong defense we have a chance at meaningful football in December again.

@speedyd900rr said:

The reality is the path to 12 wins usually starts with 8-9 wins.

Not saying we can't do it at this point, but it isn't realistic either.

@clevelandfanforlife said:

Didn't pissburgh win the superbowl last year? We beat them once this year. It's Cleveland so anything can happen. The way I see it, were either going to go 12-4 or 4-12. None of that 8-8 stuff next year.

Bottom line: Unless we get a lot better i don't see us beating em. It'll be a blast talking smack with all the fans at the bar though.

By the way to the guy who asked about the jags and KC, the way it's set up is we play the weakest member of their respective division because we were last in ours. The steelers will play the third team, ravens 2nd etc.

Zombo said:

Zombo

My brother lives in Tampa/St Pete and has Buc's tickets.....looks like a Tampa trip is in the future.

@theclevelandsound said:

it was known awhile ago that we are supposed to play the NFC South in 2010. Then you factor in our division. And we rotate to the AFC East as well. Then, there are two random matchups left. Thats how it has always worked. I could tell you (most) of the schedule for the year 2036 if I wanted to.

The NFL schedule formula that's been in place for quite some time (since 32 team league) is only in place through 2010. Once this silly collective bargaining stuff is resolved, they will revisit the scheduling formula.