<![CDATA[Holmgren needs some balls and clean house]]>Buffalo Bills finished 6-10 and fired their whole coaching staff. Word has it Cowher will accept and is assembling his coaching staff.

Jim Zorn gets fired after a 4-12 season. Bears fire 6 from staff - Lovie should have been let go as well but....

Mangini has to be fired and his whole coaching staff. Get rid of them. I would not keep people around who think 5 wins is acceptable. If Mangini would have lost both games to the Steelers the fans would be calling for his head. He beat a shitty Pgh team this year and keeping him around for this is rediculous.

I don't see why Holmgren would take this job unless he was prepared to CLEAN HOUSE and get rid of the people who think 5 wins is a great job over what Crennell did.

Boot Mangini and let him go sell someone else on his time spent with Billichick. They guy is an unqualified crybaby and does not have the leadership skills and intelligence to hire an appropriate staff. His record with Cleveland and the Jets speaks for itself. LOSER!

Holmgren needs to set the tone right away and nothing but a total clean out and rebuild will work. I do not think he wants his legacy based on Mangini and what he did in New England with Billichick.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/9662/holmgren-needs-some-balls-and-clean-houseRSS for NodeFri, 02 Oct 2026 00:33:21 GMTTue, 05 Jan 2010 19:30:00 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:21:31 GMT]]>Holmgren needs to do what is right for the organizations future rather thats retaining the genie or moving on to new pastures..mangini has made some really horrific mistakes over this past season that he will be asked to account for..and he by no means has a lock on his job...

The prez obviously wants the coach and unnamed gm to be on the exact same page not even a sentence behind or ahead...its up to the genie to either comply or decline...holmgren wants a tight reign and doesnt want an embattled staff and it appears he wants a coach that he doesnt have to keep eyes in the back of his head with...and im very comfortable with "the big show" running things and will back whichever route he takes as long as it leads forward...😉

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@hoorta said:

Press Conference: Holmgren came off really really well.

Star Trek? Don't mess with the karma. Depends on what vintage you're watching.

BTW, this is the hoorta horta2.jpg

Behave yourself, or I'll turn you into a pool of goo.

By the way what is your mom up to, jk.

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@kosar_for_president said:

I missed it and I am drunk. Can anyone give me what they took from the interview? In general.

p.s. for the first time in my life I am watching the gayest show ever, Star Trek

Press Conference: Holmgren came off really really well.

Star Trek? Don't mess with the karma. Depends on what vintage you're watching.

BTW, this is the hoorta horta2.jpg

Behave yourself, or I'll turn you into a pool of goo.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/150080https://brownsboard.com/post/150080Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:03:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:45:45 GMT]]>I missed it and I am drunk. Can anyone give me what they took from the interview? In general.

p.s. for the first time in my life I am watching the gayest show ever, Star Trek

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/150077https://brownsboard.com/post/150077Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:45:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:32:37 GMT]]>Mangini did wonders for the jets, why can't he do the same for the browns? Remember, the jets last year were 8-3 before favre got injured. And 80% of the playoff-bound jets were the same players under mangini.

Mangini brought:

via draft: darrelle revis- pro-bowler cb and DPOY candidate, whole o-line besides fanaca and woody, Brad Smith- if you watched the Sunday night game, nuff said, Leon Washington- jets version of cribbs, Harris- lb jets tackle leader,

Via trade/FA: Kris Jenkins: DT big reason why jets run D was #1 for past two seasons, Fanaca and Woody- now arguably the best o-line, Thomas Jones- rb leading the #1 run offence.

2006 season- 10-6 playoff-bound, mangini rookie campaign

2007 season- 4-12 qb injured midseason,

2008 season- 9-7, 8-3 before favre meltdown

History says he has the ability to find talent and find the players that are fitting his team. IMO he should get at least another year to prove himself, and allow him to do what he did with the jets.

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@thunderbird-cruiser said:

Like I said how many games would Mangini have won without Cribbs?

How many games would Caldwell have won without Manning?

How many games would Payton have won without Brees?

How many players did Ryan bring over to the Jets after Mangini left? Did he bring Revis, Harris, Ferguson, Mangold, Jones, Cotchery, Rhodes, Pace or Jenkins?

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@thunderbird-cruiser said:

Mangini couldn't coach Edwards, Winslow, Favre - all superior talents who went other places and succeeded. He cannot coach big time players.

FIRE THIS LOSER!

1) Farve= injured last 4 games last year, and wouldn't admit it.

2) Edwards= a whopping 30 catches after the Browns traded him ranks- 55th in the NFL in receptions, behind guys you've never heard of. Positively stellar for a #1 wideout- NOT! Still dropping passes left and right that are hitting him in the hands, including a critical two point conversion. Would rather sit in high class NYC bars and try to impress singers with $2,000 bottles of champagne than bother getting home at a decent hour and concentrate on football.

3) Winslow= Led his team to a stellar 3-13 mark (two less wins than the Browns) and is running on a shot knee that's due to totally give out in another season or so. Got value for this primadonna loser while we still could.

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@thunderbird-cruiser said:

Oh wait Brett favre left NY Jets and went 12-4 with the Vikes.

that shows Mangini could not coach him.

Mangini also couldn't perform surgery on BF's bum shoulder last year either, doofus. IIRC Mangini got canned before Bret went home to Bayou Country. If Ryan was such a forking genius, why didn't he crawl down there and beg Farve to come back?

LOL, healthy Farve- or Sanchez for your playoff run. Even a dumb-ass troll should be able to figure that one out.

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@thunderbird-cruiser said:

Like I said how many games would Mangini have won without Cribbs?

Irrelevant. Cribbs IS on the team. Mangini made proper use of the young man's skills in a variety of roles, as a good coach would.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/149962https://brownsboard.com/post/149962Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:45:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:26:47 GMT]]>AND what COACH did the job and got his team into the playoffs?

Mangini NO. Ryan YES.

Like I said how many games would Mangini have won without Cribbs?

Don't tell me Mangini can coach..He hasn't proven shit so far and you blowhards want to keep him? Do you like losing?

Holmgren will fire that little butterball tomorrow after he gets his GM..BANK on DAT you football novices.. There is no way Holmgren and his new GM will risk their success without handpicking a coach and his staff..

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/149956https://brownsboard.com/post/149956Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:26:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:14:29 GMT]]>The Jets finished 9-7 this year. Same as last year.

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@thunderbird-cruiser said:

I never liked the way he always had to tell Browns fans that "this is what we did in New England" and "this is the way to develop a team."

He made a living off of Billickick's coat tails and has been exposed as a loser since leaving.

Funny how the Jets turned it around after he left. Funny how Billichick is in the playoffs AGAIN and Mangini hasn't been there since he left.

Hey boy genius, Eric was 9 and 7 last year with the Jets..Whats the Jets record this year?.ooh..9 and 7

Rex kept 90% of the roster and 80% of the Mangini coaching staff who couldn't get out of their contracts

Who's team is in NY..Mangini's team..don't forget it

Hey TC..this is what you called OWNED..Go Away foolish little troll

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/149942https://brownsboard.com/post/149942Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:39:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:23:14 GMT]]>yeah, let's keep a coach who went 1-11 and won the last 4 games..

yeah that makes sense.

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@thunderbird-cruiser said:

Mangini couldn't coach Edwards, Winslow, Favre - all superior talents who went other places and succeeded. He cannot coach big time players.

FIRE THIS LOSER!

Mangini didn't alienate Favre.

Winslow is having a great Pro Bowl and playoff run isn't he?

Edwards has yet to accomplish anything....and he didn't let him go for nothing.

You're a moron. (that's a bonus analysis)

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/149931https://brownsboard.com/post/149931Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:10:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:55:58 GMT]]>Thundercat sounds like someone who lost their job under Mangini or someone who is looking for a job.

Mangini is a smart guy as is Holmgren. If Mangini is willing to work well with others I think he stays. There will probably be a few things that Holmgren will point out as mistakes and how mangini responds to this might also make a difference in whether he stays.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/149926https://brownsboard.com/post/149926Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:55:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:36:49 GMT]]>Oh what a few weeks will do. I cannot believe this is the same board.

For me it is all about Mangini's attitude. I believe he came here thinking he was a great coach. That he didn't have to prove anything to anyone. I also believe that he didn't take care of this team. They should have been ready to go at the beginning of the season, not the end of the season. It's not all his fault. However I feel he believes he doesn't have any faults.

I also don't see how his attitude is going to work with Holmgren. He wanted, like all coaches want, total control. Unfortunately he did such a bad job the owner had to bring an adult in to supervise. His authority has been compromised. As of today this isn't his team anymore. I don't think he will go along with that for very long.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/149908https://brownsboard.com/post/149908Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:36:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:24:16 GMT]]>nice.....awesome thread.....

another football-illiterate boston-biased sports fan coming to tel us whats good for us.

go away.....the obsession with mangini is pretty sad at this point.....

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/149899https://brownsboard.com/post/149899Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:24:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:22:16 GMT]]>D.I.A.F.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/149860https://brownsboard.com/post/149860Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:22:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:21:37 GMT]]>without Cribbs how many games would Mangini have won?

Holmgren would be an idiot to not fire this guy.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/149859https://brownsboard.com/post/149859Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:21:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:17:53 GMT]]>DIAF, troll.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/149857https://brownsboard.com/post/149857Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:17:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:13:30 GMT]]>Ok, for the sake of an argument. If Holmgren fires Mangini will he be hired as a head coach somewhere else?

I couldn't see one NFL team interested in his BS. He has proven himself to be antagonistic, uncreative, and marginal after leaving NE.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/149855https://brownsboard.com/post/149855Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:13:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:08:04 GMT]]>Mangini couldn't coach Edwards, Winslow, Favre - all superior talents who went other places and succeeded. He cannot coach big time players.

FIRE THIS LOSER!

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/149851https://brownsboard.com/post/149851Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:08:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Holmgren needs some balls and clean house on Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:06:18 GMT]]>

@thunderbird-cruiser said:

I never liked the way he always had to tell Browns fans that "this is what we did in New England" and "this is the way to develop a team."

He made a living off of Billickick's coat tails and has been exposed as a loser since leaving.

Funny how the Jets turned it around after he left. Funny how Billichick is in the playoffs AGAIN and Mangini hasn't been there since he left.

Funny how people buy into his B.S.

PLEASE HOLMGREN CLEAN HOUSE!!!

WKNR has sent a troll people. And we smoked him out of his "spider hole".

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@thunderbird-cruiser said:

Oh wait Brett favre left NY Jets and went 12-4 with the Vikes.

that shows Mangini could not coach him.

Yeah, it's pretty simple to go 12-4 when you have the best runningback in the game, coupled with one of the best defenses in the league.

You're a xxxxing moron, kid. Why aren't you in school?

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