UFL positioning for possible merger
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Gip....we don't disagree. My only bone was the using of population and comparing it's growth with the growth of the league.
I agree, there are several cities/metro areas that could/would support a NFL team.
How about this as an idea....the league has talked about extending the regular season to 18 games. How about doing so but rather than have the teams play one of those games on their field, take it to a fairly neutral but friendly site??
Take the Browns as an example...remember, we are just tossing around ideas here...
Let's say in the new 18 game season we picked up Chiefs as an away game and the Jags as a home game.
For the home game against the the Jags we played the game in Columbus.
For the away game against the Chiefs we played in say Oklahoma City or Norman?
Both sites would provide at least some semblance of a home field yet it would spread the NFL experience to places which normally don't get the experience.
Maybe even do this as a precursor to expansion for a few years in order to see who supports a team and who doesn't....who wants it the most so to speak.
Again, just thinking out loud.
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Gip....we don't disagree. My only bone was the using of population and comparing it's growth with the growth of the league.
I agree, there are several cities/metro areas that could/would support a NFL team.
How about this as an idea....the league has talked about extending the regular season to 18 games. How about doing so but rather than have the teams play one of those games on their field, take it to a fairly neutral but friendly site??
Take the Browns as an example...remember, we are just tossing around ideas here...
Let's say in the new 18 game season we picked up Chiefs as an away game and the Jags as a home game.
For the home game against the the Jags we played the game in Columbus.
For the away game against the Chiefs we played in say Oklahoma City or Norman?
Both sites would provide at least some semblance of a home field yet it would spread the NFL experience to places which normally don't get the experience.
Maybe even do this as a precursor to expansion for a few years in order to see who supports a team and who doesn't....who wants it the most so to speak.
Again, just thinking out loud.
Gip....we don't disagree. My only bone was the using of population and comparing it's growth with the growth of the league.
I agree, there are several cities/metro areas that could/would support a NFL team.
How about this as an idea....the league has talked about extending the regular season to 18 games. How about doing so but rather than have the teams play one of those games on their field, take it to a fairly neutral but friendly site??
Take the Browns as an example...remember, we are just tossing around ideas here...
Let's say in the new 18 game season we picked up Chiefs as an away game and the Jags as a home game.
For the home game against the the Jags we played the game in Columbus.
For the away game against the Chiefs we played in say Oklahoma City or Norman?
Both sites would provide at least some semblance of a home field yet it would spread the NFL experience to places which normally don't get the experience.
Maybe even do this as a precursor to expansion for a few years in order to see who supports a team and who doesn't....who wants it the most so to speak.
Again, just thinking out loud.
I like the idea, but I think it would be better if you could put teams on a neutral field that is either equidistant from both cities or that is in an area that is kind of in a tug of war with allegiances to both cities.
The obvious example would be to put a Browns/Bengals game in Columbus.
But assuming that each team does not want to give up a home game against a division opponent, you could arrange these as interconference games.
Best example I can think of would be playing a Dallas Cowboys/Houston Texans game in San Antonio.
A Jags/Bucs game in Orlando?
Seahawks/Raiders in Portland?
Chargers/49ers in Vegas?
Titans/Rams in Memphis?
Broncos/Cardinals in Salt Lake?
Any others you can think of?
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Cincinnati and Indianapolis could meet in Louisville.
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Would the NFL ever consider setting up an expanded league but in separated categories?
Certainly friends here in the UK are always surprised to learn that the NFL only has 32 teams for a land mass the size of the US. So perhaps could the NFL consider expanding the league for a second tier division with promotion and relegation consequences.
At the end of the season, say the bottom two teams in the "premier" NFL division are relegated to the second tier division and the top two teams from the second tier division get promoted to the NFL elite. I can assure you of one thing, the relegation battle games are as fierce as anything you'll ever see. Problem with this idea is that it would have meant Cleveland getting demoted in recent years!
It would however preserve the current set up but introduce a must win philosophy for all teams.
One thing I agree with Ballpeen on is dump NFL Europe - it will never gain critical mass over here and hence always be a distraction and pale imitation of the real thing.
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Would the NFL ever consider setting up an expanded league but in separated categories?
Certainly friends here in the UK are always surprised to learn that the NFL only has 32 teams for a land mass the size of the US. So perhaps could the NFL consider expanding the league for a second tier division with promotion and relegation consequences.
At the end of the season, say the bottom two teams in the "premier" NFL division are relegated to the second tier division and the top two teams from the second tier division get promoted to the NFL elite. I can assure you of one thing, the relegation battle games are as fierce as anything you'll ever see. Problem with this idea is that it would have meant Cleveland getting demoted in recent years!
It would however preserve the current set up but introduce a must win philosophy for all teams.
One thing I agree with Ballpeen on is dump NFL Europe - it will never gain critical mass over here and hence always be a distraction and pale imitation of the real thing.
Would the NFL ever consider setting up an expanded league but in separated categories?
Certainly friends here in the UK are always surprised to learn that the NFL only has 32 teams for a land mass the size of the US. So perhaps could the NFL consider expanding the league for a second tier division with promotion and relegation consequences.
At the end of the season, say the bottom two teams in the "premier" NFL division are relegated to the second tier division and the top two teams from the second tier division get promoted to the NFL elite. I can assure you of one thing, the relegation battle games are as fierce as anything you'll ever see. Problem with this idea is that it would have meant Cleveland getting demoted in recent years!
It would however preserve the current set up but introduce a must win philosophy for all teams.
One thing I agree with Ballpeen on is dump NFL Europe - it will never gain critical mass over here and hence always be a distraction and pale imitation of the real thing.
Its a money thing Howie. The NFL has a monopoly and they want to control all the billions in revenue that come with "major league football". They do NOT want to divvy up the pot of gold into any more shares than they have to.
While there are numerous what we call semi-pro leagues in this country, they have no affiliation with the NFL. There is no true "AAA" league in football (that is a reference to the highest baseball minor league level. AAA, AA, A leagues do in fact have affiliations with Major League Baseball teams, but the NFL has no such system. Also, there is no "tiering system" in any North American major sports league as they have in Europe. If you have a bad team, then they are just a bad team. If the Detroit Lions are to go 0-16, then so be it. They don't get relegated). The UFL at this point may be attempting to become a legitimate "minor league" with NFL affiliation.
I do kind of like that concept of tiering: Under that system, the Rams and the Lions who had the worst two records in the league would have been "relegated" and replaced by the Las Vegas Locomotives or the California Redwoods or some such.
I wonder how others would like such a system?.
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@junkyard-dawg said:
I assure you there is zero allegiance to the Cardinals in Salt Lake City. Utah has twon teams everyones torn between, sure. Denver and Dallas. Back when Holmgren and Steve Young were 49ers there was some bandwagoners to the Niners, too. I agree with your idea which is why I pointed it out bro, no harm intended.I was looking at the pure geography. Certainly the Cardinals have done almost nothing to attract a regional following in the West outside Arizona. Though, if the Broncos and Cowboys had not had a long run of success how big would their following be there? Those folks there jumped on those bandwagons, why not the 49ers? If the Cards were to lay out a couple of Super Bowl wins the way the Cowboys/49ers/Broncos have, I suspect there would be some wagon jumping to rival the Mountain Meadow Massacre.
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