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  • Just a few stats on most well known successful teams that ran the WCO:

    The 1989 49ers gained 4584 yards passing and 1966 yards rushing as a team that year

    The 1994 49ers gained 4362 passing and 1897 rushing

    The 1996 Packers gained 3938 passing and 1838 rushing.

    These certainly are the kinds of numbers we could live with here, aren't they?

    Last year the SB winning Packers gained 4355 passing and 1606 rushing.

    The 2010 Cleveland Browns actually outrushed the Packers gaining 1646 rushing yards, but they only had 3202 passing yards. To me, the run game seems fairly adequate, maybe it only needs a couple of hundred yards boost. But we need about another 1000 yards out of our pass game to be on that level of offensive proficiency.

    Now, maybe the presence of a healthy Hardesty and a continuing healthy Hillis can easily squeeze out that extra 200 yards on the ground. But where is that extra 1000 yards passing going to come from? The institution of the WCO alone? A full time Colt McCoy at QB? Gregg Little and Jordan Cameron? Enquiring minds want to know.

    Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Just a few stats on most well known successful teams that ran the WCO:

    The 1989 49ers gained 4584 yards passing and 1966 yards rushing as a team that year

    The 1994 49ers gained 4362 passing and 1897 rushing

    The 1996 Packers gained 3938 passing and 1838 rushing.

    These certainly are the kinds of numbers we could live with here, aren't they?

    Last year the SB winning Packers gained 4355 passing and 1606 rushing.

    The 2010 Cleveland Browns actually outrushed the Packers gaining 1646 rushing yards, but they only had 3202 passing yards. To me, the run game seems fairly adequate, maybe it only needs a couple of hundred yards boost. But we need about another 1000 yards out of our pass game to be on that level of offensive proficiency.

    Now, maybe the presence of a healthy Hardesty and a continuing healthy Hillis can easily squeeze out that extra 200 yards on the ground. But where is that extra 1000 yards passing going to come from? The institution of the WCO alone? A full time Colt McCoy at QB? Gregg Little and Jordan Cameron? Enquiring minds want to know.

    Efficiency running OR passing sets up the other. Our problems passing last year were mostly schematic, at least in my opinion. I think Hillis will be WAY up there in combined rushing & receiving yards in the WCO.

    Mike

  • ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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    People worry too much how Hillis will be impacted. Last year Hillis had 270 carries for 1177 yards and 61 receptions.

    Last year Shurmer was the OC for the Rams. The rams running back, Steven Jackson had 330 carries for 1241 yards and 46 receptions.

    Both backs are similar in style and had similar numbers.

    It's a non story.

  • People worry too much how Hillis will be impacted. Last year Hillis had 270 carries for 1177 yards and 61 receptions.

    Last year Shurmer was the OC for the Rams. The rams running back, Steven Jackson had 330 carries for 1241 yards and 46 receptions.

    Both backs are similar in style and had similar numbers.

    It's a non story.

    rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
    #43

    @ballpeen said:

    People worry too much how Hillis will be impacted. Last year Hillis had 270 carries for 1177 yards and 61 receptions.

    Last year Shurmer was the OC for the Rams. The rams running back, Steven Jackson had 330 carries for 1241 yards and 46 receptions.

    Both backs are similar in style and had similar numbers.

    It's a non story.

    Hillis was a one year wonder.....book that.....he was ordinary with a big heart....now he is the man......and he will be ordinary......and gone in less than three years

  • @ballpeen said:

    People worry too much how Hillis will be impacted. Last year Hillis had 270 carries for 1177 yards and 61 receptions.

    Last year Shurmer was the OC for the Rams. The rams running back, Steven Jackson had 330 carries for 1241 yards and 46 receptions.

    Both backs are similar in style and had similar numbers.

    It's a non story.

    Hillis was a one year wonder.....book that.....he was ordinary with a big heart....now he is the man......and he will be ordinary......and gone in less than three years

    Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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    @rich4eagle said:

    Hillis was a one year wonder.....book that.....he was ordinary with a big heart....now he is the man......and he will be ordinary......and gone in less than three years

    And I wish you would be gone today. You never bring anything to a conversation but negative bullshit. In my whole time here on this forum I have never seen you say one damn positive thing. Why the hell even post on here if you can't at least be optimistic 10% of the time.

  • @ballpeen said:

    People worry too much how Hillis will be impacted. Last year Hillis had 270 carries for 1177 yards and 61 receptions.

    Last year Shurmer was the OC for the Rams. The rams running back, Steven Jackson had 330 carries for 1241 yards and 46 receptions.

    Both backs are similar in style and had similar numbers.

    It's a non story.

    Hillis was a one year wonder.....book that.....he was ordinary with a big heart....now he is the man......and he will be ordinary......and gone in less than three years

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @rich4eagle said:

    Hillis was a one year wonder.....book that.....he was ordinary with a big heart....now he is the man......and he will be ordinary......and gone in less than three years

    I think that is mostly wishful thinking on the part of a Steeler fan.

    We have been through this on how many so called "bruising" running backs have lasted many years in this league, contrary to your view. Hillis can easily have 5 more productive years. He must stay healthy, yes. But there is no reason that he should succumb to injury more than Ray Rice, or Rashad Mendenhall, or Cedric Benson, or anyone else.