Much Improved
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I wish I could be like all you Pollyannas (Definition for the Challenged) , but the reality is the Browns suck. I know there are people here older than me, but I have been a diehard Browns fan for over 50 years (I actually remember the '64 Championship game you so long for). After today, I'm guessing I'm not going to attend a Super Bowl.
Flame me and curse me all you want, but get your heads out of your asses..... An improved performance means nothing (ok, make your case, but I don't believe it). We lost. That means we didn't win ! There's nothimg in the NFL that awards the Lombardi Trophy to the most improved team (which we are not even close to being). Do I know what the problem is? Probably not, but I have ideas. Do I know how to fix the problem? Maybe not, but Randy leaving is a step in the right direction.
I side with "the bitchers", but I understand the loyalty of the Pollyannas, the problem being reallity. Let's talk about improvement at the end of the season when they make the playoffs and move to the second round. Oops, guess even you guys don't believe that.
Flame away, it is an alternative to being a champion.
I wish I could be like all you Pollyannas (Definition for the Challenged) , but the reality is the Browns suck. I know there are people here older than me, but I have been a diehard Browns fan for over 50 years (I actually remember the '64 Championship game you so long for). After today, I'm guessing I'm not going to attend a Super Bowl.
Flame me and curse me all you want, but get your heads out of your asses..... An improved performance means nothing (ok, make your case, but I don't believe it). We lost. That means we didn't win ! There's nothimg in the NFL that awards the Lombardi Trophy to the most improved team (which we are not even close to being). Do I know what the problem is? Probably not, but I have ideas. Do I know how to fix the problem? Maybe not, but Randy leaving is a step in the right direction.
I side with "the bitchers", but I understand the loyalty of the Pollyannas, the problem being reallity. Let's talk about improvement at the end of the season when they make the playoffs and move to the second round. Oops, guess even you guys don't believe that.
Flame away, it is an alternative to being a champion.
First off that must of been really neat to see the browns actually win a championship. I'm 22 and right now I feel the same way that I'm not going to see a super bowl.
Let me say that I actually don't think people disagree with you. At the end of the day it's all about putting a +1 in the W column. BUT, we have to start somewhere. This team was so bad 2 years ago that I truly believe the Alabama's and LSU's of the world could have competed against the team. What I saw today was a shell of a team that can seriously compete in today's NFL. A QB who can make the tight throws as well the strikes down the field. I saw a RB bulldoze and makes moves at the second level which make you go "damn!". If you take away the senseless penalties and add the starting CB's, who knows how that game ends up. It's frustrating to see the losses, but this is the first time in a long time I've felt we're going to turn that corner and compete.
You're right though, that hope means nothing if it never amounts to wins. Weeden could look like Manning but it's all about winning. But if we keep playing offense like we did today and get to full strength, we will.
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Some of you guys are really jack asses. By your accounts everyone but the Giants sucked last year because they won the Superbowl. Who cares about the improvement they showed through the playoffs.
Because you know... improvement means nothing. We should go from zero to domination or else who cares.
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To me, today was a HUGE improvement by the offense.
Weeden and Richardson both looked like 1st round picks, playing in only their 2nd nfl game. I give them both A's. I mean just look at the stat lines. Richardson is going to be the real deal, and gives me much more optimism about the rest of this season. Weeden as well. Looked more comfortable, threw with confidence, and did not make any big mistakes with the football.
We still need to see improvement from Little, as far as consistency. And, still waiting for Gordon to do something, but that's a stretch b/c he missed all of camp.
O-line played average. Run blocking started poor, but got better.
On D...
Today proved how good Haden is. Without him, our secondary got exposed. Ward played well, and Patterson played decent. I thought Brown was hurt b/c I never expected Skrine to start. Today was the first day I was wishing for Sheldon Brown to be on the field. I believe it would have made a world of difference as Skrine just got beat too much. He and Brown should have at least done 50/50.
D-line played great in run D.
I was kind of missing LJ Fort today. I understand putting Fujita back in, of course, but I trully think starting Fort would be the right move for the future of this defense. Kid looks like a gamer.
Overall, a tough loss but at least we had some fun watching it. If we can tighten up the D, and keep getting TRich the ball I think we're going to win a few games. We're only 1 game back right now...
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Could they actually do any worst on offense then they did last week? And Philly is suppose to be a playoff team and Cincy is not even suppose to compete and is suppose to play for last place with The Browns. I suppose you are enjoying the penalties as well? 98 yards that's improvement, right!
Who the fuck are you?
Shut the fuck up, you mindless pessimistic pussnapkin.
You are why people hate Cleveland fans, you disgusting piece of gutter trash.
Who the fuck are you?
Shut the fuck up, you mindless pessimistic pussnapkin.
You are why people hate Cleveland fans, you disgusting piece of gutter trash.
Ding! Ding! We have a winner! Love this post, says alot with very few words.....Nuff Said
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I wish I could be like all you Pollyannas (Definition for the Challenged) , but the reality is the Browns suck. I know there are people here older than me, but I have been a diehard Browns fan for over 50 years (I actually remember the '64 Championship game you so long for). After today, I'm guessing I'm not going to attend a Super Bowl.
Flame me and curse me all you want, but get your heads out of your asses..... An improved performance means nothing (ok, make your case, but I don't believe it). We lost. That means we didn't win ! There's nothimg in the NFL that awards the Lombardi Trophy to the most improved team (which we are not even close to being). Do I know what the problem is? Probably not, but I have ideas. Do I know how to fix the problem? Maybe not, but Randy leaving is a step in the right direction.
I side with "the bitchers", but I understand the loyalty of the Pollyannas, the problem being reallity. Let's talk about improvement at the end of the season when they make the playoffs and move to the second round. Oops, guess even you guys don't believe that.
Flame away, it is an alternative to being a champion.
I wish I could be like all you Pollyannas (Definition for the Challenged) , but the reality is the Browns suck. I know there are people here older than me, but I have been a diehard Browns fan for over 50 years (I actually remember the '64 Championship game you so long for). After today, I'm guessing I'm not going to attend a Super Bowl.
Flame me and curse me all you want, but get your heads out of your asses..... An improved performance means nothing (ok, make your case, but I don't believe it). We lost. That means we didn't win ! There's nothimg in the NFL that awards the Lombardi Trophy to the most improved team (which we are not even close to being). Do I know what the problem is? Probably not, but I have ideas. Do I know how to fix the problem? Maybe not, but Randy leaving is a step in the right direction.
I side with "the bitchers", but I understand the loyalty of the Pollyannas, the problem being reallity. Let's talk about improvement at the end of the season when they make the playoffs and move to the second round. Oops, guess even you guys don't believe that.
Flame away, it is an alternative to being a champion.
The reality is that we won't be contenders this year, and possibly not next.
That's the reality. So forgive us "pollyanna's" for realizing that, and not calling for an implosion of the FO and roster yet again.
How does the saying go? "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."
Yeah, keep calling for everyone's head every year and see how long it takes to get to the playoffs.
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Norwood was out due to some injury.
Norwood was out due to some injury.
Sufferred in pre-game? Unless that's the case the FO may have a fine coming as he was not on the week's injury report.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Weeden looked good hopefully it keeps it up and takes more command of the offense.
What a breath of fresh air seeing T-Rich make some plays.
I'm quickly becoming less and less of a Greg Little fan.
Dude makes one catch and poses like Hulk Hogan as if he made some huge play.
Catches a touchdown and dances like a freakin idiot, oh well what do you expect from a receiver.
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Weeden looked good hopefully it keeps it up and takes more command of the offense.
What a breath of fresh air seeing T-Rich make some plays.
I'm quickly becoming less and less of a Greg Little fan.
Dude makes one catch and poses like Hulk Hogan as if he made some huge play.
Catches a touchdown and dances like a freakin idiot, oh well what do you expect from a receiver.
Weeden looked good hopefully it keeps it up and takes more command of the offense.
What a breath of fresh air seeing T-Rich make some plays.
I'm quickly becoming less and less of a Greg Little fan.
Dude makes one catch and poses like Hulk Hogan as if he made some huge play.
Catches a touchdown and dances like a freakin idiot, oh well what do you expect from a receiver.
Its hard to act like you've been there before when you haven't been there before...
He was probably really excited. Touchdowns are a rarity on this team. Maybe next time he'll be a little more composed.
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Norwood was out due to some injury.
Sufferred in pre-game? Unless that's the case the FO may have a fine coming as he was not on the week's injury report.
Sufferred in pre-game? Unless that's the case the FO may have a fine coming as he was not on the week's injury report.
Never mind, he was on the inactive list, not injury list.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/54626/inactives-for-bengals-browns-and-ravens
QB Thaddeus Lewis, WR Jordan Norwood, RB Brandon Jackson, FS Ray Ventrone, LB James-Michael Johnson, OT Oniel Cousins and LB Tank Carder.
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@usfbrown said:
1347823716[/url]' post='303535']Hell yeah my standards at low. I'm a freaking Browns and USF fan! Whatever, compared to last game when these rookies were just getting their feet wet they're much improved and the two touchdowns on offense alone says it. I can't remember the last time the offense scored two touchdowns.
You Debbie downers aren't going to rain on m parade. I'm actually enjoying watching Richardson and this offense move the ball.
Yeah, us Debbie downers have to watch this shet every week. One week it's the offense who sucks, the next week it's the defense! I wouldn't doubt that USF couldn't beat this team, although I'm pretty sure FSU could.
The DB's out there look like a Bunch of bumbling idiots out there. The browns need to blitz on every down and just take their chances. Sorry asses!
Yeah, us Debbie downers have to watch this shet every week. One week it's the offense who sucks, the next week it's the defense! I wouldn't doubt that USF couldn't beat this team, although I'm pretty sure FSU could.
The DB's out there look like a Bunch of bumbling idiots out there. The browns need to blitz on every down and just take their chances. Sorry asses!
And that is what pisses me off! One week the offense sucks, and the next week it's the defense! Can the Browns play a complete game on both sides of the ball for once???
It's been the same shit since 1999! I don't want to hear excuses like "well Haden is out!" Bullshit! Good teams find away to get other guys to step up in the absence of a star player! Last time I checked, football was a team sport! MAN THE F*** UP ALREADY! -
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1347823009[/url]' post='303529']sheeesh your standards are much too low.
They still look terrible. 10 pts going into the 4th qtr. down 24-10.
This bengals team is nothing special, and will be doing good to finish .500(they looked absolutely brutal in week 1)
Brandon weeden's performance going from an F to a D+ or a C- is hardly what I would call good. He was a completely wasted pick, and reasonable people(who know college football) laughed when his name was selected there. The smart(but unrealistic) move would be to cut him now, eat the guaranteed money, and admit it was a mistake.
Weeden = Tim Couch
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I wish I could be like all you Pollyannas (Definition for the Challenged) , but the reality is the Browns suck. I know there are people here older than me, but I have been a diehard Browns fan for over 50 years (I actually remember the '64 Championship game you so long for). After today, I'm guessing I'm not going to attend a Super Bowl.
Flame me and curse me all you want, but get your heads out of your asses..... An improved performance means nothing (ok, make your case, but I don't believe it). We lost. That means we didn't win ! There's nothimg in the NFL that awards the Lombardi Trophy to the most improved team (which we are not even close to being). Do I know what the problem is? Probably not, but I have ideas. Do I know how to fix the problem? Maybe not, but Randy leaving is a step in the right direction.
I side with "the bitchers", but I understand the loyalty of the Pollyannas, the problem being reallity. Let's talk about improvement at the end of the season when they make the playoffs and move to the second round. Oops, guess even you guys don't believe that.
Flame away, it is an alternative to being a champion.
I wish I could be like all you Pollyannas (Definition for the Challenged) , but the reality is the Browns suck. I know there are people here older than me, but I have been a diehard Browns fan for over 50 years (I actually remember the '64 Championship game you so long for). After today, I'm guessing I'm not going to attend a Super Bowl.
Flame me and curse me all you want, but get your heads out of your asses..... An improved performance means nothing (ok, make your case, but I don't believe it). We lost. That means we didn't win ! There's nothimg in the NFL that awards the Lombardi Trophy to the most improved team (which we are not even close to being). Do I know what the problem is? Probably not, but I have ideas. Do I know how to fix the problem? Maybe not, but Randy leaving is a step in the right direction.
I side with "the bitchers", but I understand the loyalty of the Pollyannas, the problem being reallity. Let's talk about improvement at the end of the season when they make the playoffs and move to the second round. Oops, guess even you guys don't believe that.
Flame away, it is an alternative to being a champion.
I feel your pain Keith. Yeah, they don't give out awards for "most improved team". Right now, the improvement hasn't resulted in a win- and I don't know if we can win with Shurmur as the coach.
Weeden and Richardson were much better yesterday. Did you really expect them to play like Aaron Rodgers and Jim Brown in their second games? Incidentally, that 320 yard performance set a record for a Browns rookie qb. No one (except the unrealistic dreamers), expected the Browns to be a Playoff team this year. Get Haden and Taylor back- and I really believe this team can be competitive. There's wins to be had the rest of the way out- starting with Buffalo this Sunday.
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1) If you consider the Browns hopeless, then go post on another Team's board. This one's for BROWNS Fans!
2) I have followed the Browns faithfully for some years (I'm 66 & cheered the drafting of Jimmy Brown) & I see a LOT of positives. BTW, there are many GREAT & TRUE Browns' Fans here far younger than I. I salute them & wish them MANY Super Bowl wins. I also expect to see some SB wins before I kick the bucket.
----We have a new incoming Owner with a passion for the Game AND Winning.
----If you opened your eyes at all yesterday, you should have seen some of what Weeden & Richardson bring to this Team. Richardson positively affects far more than "just" the running game. Weeden brings a strong arm AND touch. Both seem to learn quickly & both are very self confident without being arrogant.
----Most important, IMHO, is that this YOUNG Team will grow as a UNIT. In the past, we have plugged in far too many "over the hill" free agents. There was no continuity or chemistry being built. The key is that a Team is being BUILT...We are not just throwing band aids on broken parts.
If you want to spout nothing but negativity & resort to name calling, please leave or at least learn to spell.
Mike
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
@usfbrown said:
1347823716[/url]' post='303535']Hell yeah my standards at low. I'm a freaking Browns and USF fan! Whatever, compared to last game when these rookies were just getting their feet wet they're much improved and the two touchdowns on offense alone says it. I can't remember the last time the offense scored two touchdowns.
You Debbie downers aren't going to rain on m parade. I'm actually enjoying watching Richardson and this offense move the ball.
Yeah, us Debbie downers have to watch this shet every week. One week it's the offense who sucks, the next week it's the defense! I wouldn't doubt that USF couldn't beat this team, although I'm pretty sure FSU could.
The DB's out there look like a Bunch of bumbling idiots out there. The browns need to blitz on every down and just take their chances. Sorry asses!
Yeah, us Debbie downers have to watch this shet every week. One week it's the offense who sucks, the next week it's the defense! I wouldn't doubt that USF couldn't beat this team, although I'm pretty sure FSU could.
The DB's out there look like a Bunch of bumbling idiots out there. The browns need to blitz on every down and just take their chances. Sorry asses!
Guess what chachi...you don't "have to watch every week". If you hate this team so much and are this pissed off about a football team that you have ZERO control over the outcome of the game...go find another team to root for or just don't watch and come back when we're good again (sooner rather than later in my opinion) and claim that you've been a fan forever. Otherwise...shut the fuck up...
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Yeah, us Debbie downers have to watch this shet every week. One week it's the offense who sucks, the next week it's the defense! I wouldn't doubt that USF couldn't beat this team, although I'm pretty sure FSU could.
The DB's out there look like a Bunch of bumbling idiots out there. The browns need to blitz on every down and just take their chances. Sorry asses!
Guess what chachi...you don't "have to watch every week". If you hate this team so much and are this pissed off about a football team that you have ZERO control over the outcome of the game...go find another team to root for or just don't watch and come back when we're good again (sooner rather than later in my opinion) and claim that you've been a fan forever. Otherwise...shut the fuck up...
Guess what chachi...you don't "have to watch every week". If you hate this team so much and are this pissed off about a football team that you have ZERO control over the outcome of the game...go find another team to root for or just don't watch and come back when we're good again (sooner rather than later in my opinion) and claim that you've been a fan forever. Otherwise...shut the fuck up...
I was thinking it was Joanie.
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Joanie...chachi...either way...
Tired of the whining, especially the "I have to watch" crap. The team showed some improvement and was sure a whole hell of a lot better on offense than we were at any point last season. Hopefully we will show that same type of offense again this week and it wasn't just a one game aberration.
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1) If you consider the Browns hopeless, then go post on another Team's board. This one's for BROWNS Fans!
2) I have followed the Browns faithfully for some years (I'm 66 & cheered the drafting of Jimmy Brown) & I see a LOT of positives. BTW, there are many GREAT & TRUE Browns' Fans here far younger than I. I salute them & wish them MANY Super Bowl wins. I also expect to see some SB wins before I kick the bucket.
----We have a new incoming Owner with a passion for the Game AND Winning.
----If you opened your eyes at all yesterday, you should have seen some of what Weeden & Richardson bring to this Team. Richardson positively affects far more than "just" the running game. Weeden brings a strong arm AND touch. Both seem to learn quickly & both are very self confident without being arrogant.
----Most important, IMHO, is that this YOUNG Team will grow as a UNIT. In the past, we have plugged in far too many "over the hill" free agents. There was no continuity or chemistry being built. The key is that a Team is being BUILT...We are not just throwing band aids on broken parts.
If you want to spout nothing but negativity & resort to name calling, please leave or at least learn to spell.
Mike
1) If you consider the Browns hopeless, then go post on another Team's board. This one's for BROWNS Fans!
2) I have followed the Browns faithfully for some years (I'm 66 & cheered the drafting of Jimmy Brown) & I see a LOT of positives. BTW, there are many GREAT & TRUE Browns' Fans here far younger than I. I salute them & wish them MANY Super Bowl wins. I also expect to see some SB wins before I kick the bucket.
----We have a new incoming Owner with a passion for the Game AND Winning.
----If you opened your eyes at all yesterday, you should have seen some of what Weeden & Richardson bring to this Team. Richardson positively affects far more than "just" the running game. Weeden brings a strong arm AND touch. Both seem to learn quickly & both are very self confident without being arrogant.
----Most important, IMHO, is that this YOUNG Team will grow as a UNIT. In the past, we have plugged in far too many "over the hill" free agents. There was no continuity or chemistry being built. The key is that a Team is being BUILT...We are not just throwing band aids on broken parts.
If you want to spout nothing but negativity & resort to name calling, please leave or at least learn to spell.
Mike
Nah- I wouldn't ask our new Nabob of Negativity to leave- you see a lot more of this on Cleveland.com I hate to stereotype, but this is the sort of stuff you'll see from certain corners should the Browns beat the Bills Sunday. "Well the Bills aren't very good, either." Like Buddy Ryan said "ain't no Coastal Carolinas in the NFL." We beat them by 20 "shoulda beat 'em by 30." And so it goes.
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This team ain't lying down for anybody.. They were two plays away from beating the Eagles and a single
special team breakdown cost them the game against the Bengals. Once they find a way to win I think
we will have a team that can build on their new found confidence and win a few more ball games than
expected. The horses are there to compete. They merely need get their head and asses wired together.
It's time for the leaders of this team along with the coaches to reinforce the notion that this team
DESERVES, as much as any other team in the league, the exhaltation of leaving the field on Sunday
knowing they played their nutz off and earned a victory.
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Joanie...chachi...either way...
Tired of the whining, especially the "I have to watch" crap. The team showed some improvement and was sure a whole hell of a lot better on offense than we were at any point last season. Hopefully we will show that same type of offense again this week and it wasn't just a one game aberration.
No, it's not just one game.The team showed some improvement and was sure a whole hell of a lot better on offense than we were at any point last season. Hopefully we will show that same type of offense again this week and it wasn't just a one game aberration.
You are seeing improvement.
I hope yinz can ignore the final score and give credit to CIN. They are a good team.
Neither CLE nor CIN is gonna be an easy win for PIT and BAL this season.
Weeden looked very good for a 28 year old rookie.
Give him a few years to develop (on a team that has gone through 17 starting QB's in 14 seasons.)
The most serious issue at hand is the 100+ yards in penalties.
Maybe you can pawn that off on the shitty refs . . . . I dunno. . .
Or maybe CLE has some serious discipline and coaching problems.
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No, it's not just one game.The team showed some improvement and was sure a whole hell of a lot better on offense than we were at any point last season. Hopefully we will show that same type of offense again this week and it wasn't just a one game aberration.
You are seeing improvement.
I hope yinz can ignore the final score and give credit to CIN. They are a good team.
Neither CLE nor CIN is gonna be an easy win for PIT and BAL this season.
Weeden looked very good for a 28 year old rookie.
Give him a few years to develop (on a team that has gone through 17 starting QB's in 14 seasons.)
The most serious issue at hand is the 100+ yards in penalties.
Maybe you can pawn that off on the shitty refs . . . . I dunno. . .
Or maybe CLE has some serious discipline and coaching problems.
No, it's not just one game.
You are seeing improvement.
I hope yinz can ignore the final score and give credit to CIN. They are a good team.
Neither CLE nor CIN is gonna be an easy win for PIT and BAL this season.
I dunno, that win by Baltimore over Cincy last week looked pretty easy. 44-13?
But I do think that was a Fluko.
Weeden looked very good for a 28 year old rookie.
Give him a few years to develop (on a team that has gone through 17 starting QB's in 14 seasons.)
The most serious issue at hand is the 100+ yards in penalties.
Maybe you can pawn that off on the shitty refs . . . . I dunno. . .
Or maybe CLE has some serious discipline and coaching problems.
Are you truly just now realizing that the Browns might have a coaching problem? How droll in your sense of humor.
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