Greatest Champioship Qbs
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Here are my "personal" top 20 QBs of all time, in groupings of 5, but in no definitive order amongst each group of 5:
Top 5: Otto Graham, Joe Montana, Tom Brady, John Unitas, John Elway
5-10: Dan Marino, Bart Starr, Sid Luckman, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning
10-15: Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach, Dan Fouts, Sammy Baugh, Norm Van Brocklin
15-20: Fran Tarkenton, Troy Aikman, Jim Kelly, George Blanda
That is 19, for number 20 I have about a 5 way tie:
Dawson//Warner/Layne/Namath.
Too soon, but could break in anywhere above by the end of their careers: Brees/E.Manning/Roethlisberger/Rodgers
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OK, I said I personally would slightly prefer Montana....but it is close. And it certainly has nothing to do with QB rating.
Jeff Garcia had better QB ratings than Montana had...and certainly better than Bradshaw...but I wouldn't make that trade.
And face it, in the right hands (hint: Pat Shurmur is NOT the right hand), the WCO is a system that is designed to help a QBs "rating". Bradshaw played in a much more high risk, downfield offense than the WCO, so his ratings were never likely to approach that of Montana or other good WCO QBs.
OK whaddya want?
Post-1978: yards per game, TDs per season, wins per season ... pick whatever you want, and Montana is more impressive.
Bradshaw had a HOF RB, Two HOF WRs, HOF Center, All-Pro Tackle ...Yet the team ranked #1 Defensively and middle of the pack offensively.
Montana won his first Super Bowl with Earl Cooper at RB and Freddie Solomon and Dwight Clark at Receiver.
Bradshaw is deservedly a HOF but simply is not in the "Greatest Ever" conversation that Montana is. They're on different levels.
Zombo
Zombo said:
OK whaddya want?
Post-1978: yards per game, TDs per season, wins per season ... pick whatever you want, and Montana is more impressive.
Bradshaw had a HOF RB, Two HOF WRs, HOF Center, All-Pro Tackle ...Yet the team ranked #1 Defensively and middle of the pack offensively.
Montana won his first Super Bowl with Earl Cooper at RB and Freddie Solomon and Dwight Clark at Receiver.
Bradshaw is deservedly a HOF but simply is not in the "Greatest Ever" conversation that Montana is. They're on different levels.
Zombo
Exactly correct. The only thing thry have in common is rings. Other then that, Montana was way better
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