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  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    @calfoxwc said:

    So... if the foreskin if removed, doesn't that just

    make the backskin the foreskin, only less of it?

    And how does that determine which qb the Browns

    should draft next year?

    This is all so confusing.

    Next time I have a dr appt, I'll have to get all this answered,

    and I'll report back.

    Though, that may not be to much before the draft...

    Interesting. If you're circumcised, and you tuck it between your legs, is that considered a vagina? Lol if you are circumsised you no longer have foreskin. I wonder if Manziel is circumcised???

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    Interesting. If you're circumcised, and you tuck it between your legs, is that considered a vagina? Lol if you are circumsised you no longer have foreskin. I wonder if Manziel is circumcised???

    It's called a mangina, and it's what our old coach was famous for doing on the sidelines of every game.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride

  • Lmao!

  • Mangina may have tucked but Shurmur has a full blown vagina.

  • These are the same guys who came into this season ranked as one of the top 5 lines in the NFL, remember? They gave even slow-draw Weeden fantastic protection in 2012.

    But now they suck? Same guys? Why? Certainly longer routes develop slower but I think the protection has been mostly good for the two guys who get the ball out reasonably fast.

    And even Campbell's main injury was on a run, right? When Ngata "fell" on him?

  • S Shep

    These are the same guys who came into this season ranked as one of the top 5 lines in the NFL, remember? They gave even slow-draw Weeden fantastic protection in 2012.

    But now they suck? Same guys? Why? Certainly longer routes develop slower but I think the protection has been mostly good for the two guys who get the ball out reasonably fast.

    And even Campbell's main injury was on a run, right? When Ngata "fell" on him?

    @shep said:

    These are the same guys who came into this season ranked as one of the top 5 lines in the NFL, remember? They gave even slow-draw Weeden fantastic protection in 2012.

    But now they suck? Same guys? Why? Certainly longer routes develop slower but I think the protection has been mostly good for the two guys who get the ball out reasonably fast.

    And even Campbell's main injury was on a run, right? When Ngata "fell" on him?

    My problem isn't with pass pro. Its the inability to run outside. And Chud loves the screens so a big athletic guard would pay off huge on those also.

  • I'd buy that... but it could be Schwartz. As a guard he'd be considered athletic. As a tackle, I think he's only so-so.

  • It could work. Wonder if he's gotten any practice reps at guard....

  • OK qb scouts, Carr's game is today, 3:30 ABC.

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  • I could see Greco, Pinkston, Lauvao, and Schwartz competing for the guard spots. That's really strong. New guy at RT competes with Chris Faulk. Nice depth and versatility, too (obviously Schwartz could back up at RT).

  • Hard to be pissed about going to Ojai Valley Inn to get massaged, but I'll be in the car headed that way at kickoff. Might catch 30 minutes or so before spa time.

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  • hoortaH hoorta

    OK qb scouts, Carr's game is today, 3:30 ABC.

    @hoorta said:

    OK qb scouts, Carr's game is today, 3:30 ABC.

    Wow he looks terrible today, and this is the only time I've watched him play. He can't handle the pressure USC is bringing, and even when he's not being pressured he keeps overthrowing his receivers downfield. He's even missed a couple of those cheesy WR screens. I hope the Browns pass on him.

    "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta

  • He's looking like the QB many predicted he actually is. Take away the system, take away the success.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • S Shep

    Hard to be pissed about going to Ojai Valley Inn to get massaged, but I'll be in the car headed that way at kickoff. Might catch 30 minutes or so before spa time.

    @shep said:

    Hard to be pissed about going to Ojai Valley Inn to get massaged, but I'll be in the car headed that way at kickoff. Might catch 30 minutes or so before spa time.

    you know how I know you're gay?
    S 1 Reply

  • Ill pass on Carr unless its a day 2 pick.

  • Carr definitely didn't look too good against real competition. It wasn't just him, his team was purely outmatched. No run game, and he threw 53 passes. Still has the physical tools, but did not look great against stout pressure. Still looks like a 1st rounder, just maybe not top 10 material...

    #Justsayin'
    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • Carr is who we thought he was. A guy who possesses many physical tools but lacks the mental agility to be a solid quarterback at this point in time. His offensive system was a detriment to his NFL growth. Once the system is taken away or they play "superior" talent (USC is hardly superior), he falls apart.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride

  • BUT ISN'T THAT WHAT THE FO WILL BE LOOKING FOR? I GUY THAT'S GREAT ON PAPER?

  • thenew23T thenew23

    Carr definitely didn't look too good against real competition. It wasn't just him, his team was purely outmatched. No run game, and he threw 53 passes. Still has the physical tools, but did not look great against stout pressure. Still looks like a 1st rounder, just maybe not top 10 material...

    @thenew23 said:

    Carr definitely didn't look too good against real competition.

    Not a shocker...

    So who's our next savior?

    TCPO... Walter's new mock has Bortles going at #4 to Oakland... then us taking Carr at #5.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @tour2ma said:

    Moving right along...

    If you are right, why isn't Hoyer leading us to victory right now? Oh... that's right.. he got hurt. As did Campbell... As did Wheezy.

    We had really good QB play. It.... Got.... Hurt.... Twice!

    We don't need to "superstar OL" our way to a SB... but it would sure be nice to have an OL that can keep our eventual star QB healthy all the way to one.

    Some teams are bound to try to salvage him as a back up for a few more years, so you can ween yourself off of him.

    Good idea... Will be reviewing and discussing bowl performances though...

    Hoyer got hurt on a roll out on the sideline, hit by an ILB that I believe was in coverage, but I'm not going to look that up to see if it's true. Hardly the line's fault. You can blame the QB coach for not teaching him how to slide.

    Weeden was never really hurt. It was all a ruse to protect whatever trade value he has.

    Campbell's injuries are legitimately blamed on OL play,

    But we honestly can't superstar our way to the SB. Once again, Denver's patchwork line is one of the best in the NFL at the moment.

    Do we need a better OL? Yes. We could stand to pick up a solid RT, move Schwartz inside and pick up another solid G. But we don't need to invest high picks in that. The highest pick maybe being a second rounder and that's a big maybe.

    Regardless of what we do on the line, we need to address QB first and foreskin.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Hoyer got hurt on a roll out on the sideline, hit by an ILB that I believe was in coverage, but I'm not going to look that up to see if it's true. Hardly the line's fault. You can blame the QB coach for not teaching him how to slide.

    Weeden was never really hurt. It was all a ruse to protect whatever trade value he has.

    Hoyer's injury was not a designed roll-out.... he was scrambling after being flushed from the pocket... While good coverage played a roll, the protection broke down and he had to run.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000255122/Hoyer-injured-in-first-quarter

    Weeden was concussed... not sure how having that on his resume enhances his value.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Hoyer got hurt on a roll out on the sideline, hit by an ILB that I believe was in coverage, but I'm not going to look that up to see if it's true. Hardly the line's fault. You can blame the QB coach for not teaching him how to slide.

    Weeden was never really hurt. It was all a ruse to protect whatever trade value he has.

    Hoyer's injury was not a designed roll-out.... he was scrambling after being flushed from the pocket... While good coverage played a roll, the protection broke down and he had to run.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000255122/Hoyer-injured-in-first-quarter

    Weeden was concussed... not sure how having that on his resume enhances his value.

    @tour2ma said:

    Hoyer's injury was not a designed roll-out.... he was scrambling after being flushed from the pocket... While good coverage played a roll, the protection broke down and he had to run.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000255122/Hoyer-injured-in-first-quarter

    Weeden was concussed... not sure how having that on his resume enhances his value.

    Because they can claim he was benched because of injury, not because of his terrible play.

    The protection broke down because nobody was open. He was in the pocket for at least 4 seconds before rolling out.

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