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Brady: Where Does He Rank?

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  • @nepatriots said:

    Ok, bro, well in your alternate universe and bizzaro history, where Peyton wins six Superbowls as a Patriot, and Tom Brady sold car insurance, I guess your fantasy dictates Peyton is better.

    Maybe you should write a comic book about it.

    However, here in the real world, Brady is Mr. Clutch and Peyton has a REPUTATION for sucking in the cold, sucking in the play offs, and sucking when he's not just stat-compiling against an NFL bottom feeder in October.

    Eye test says Brady.

    Eye test was pretty clear two weeks ago if you missed it,

    I think you're being a little of a Patriot homer. Brady and Manning are both great qbs, both lock first ballot HOFers. I don't necessarily buy the "I've got more rings than you do" argument that makes him a better qb. Montana has the rings, Farve has the stats- so who's better? You can argue that one till you're blue in the face. It will be the same way with Manning and Brady.

    Incidentally I didn't miss that game nice luck out on a gift from the Donkeys in OT.

    Well put, HT...

    @hoorta said:

    I think you're being a little of a Patriot homer.

    Ya think?

    @nepatriots said:

    Individual statistics are as much a team effort as a Superbowl.

    If you want to hold up stats as some end all be all, but dismiss CHAMPIONSHIPS like the QB was a spectator for them, or a losing play off record, like Peyton had nothing to do with it, you're just being disingenious

    To argue that team effort impact on individual stats is as great as SB wins is ludicrous. Any single game, let alone an entire SB season, involves a team's Offense and Defense. I'm pretty sure a QB only directly impacts the Offense.

    Equally ludicrous is your maintaining that Manning benefited from playing on "stacked" teams in Indy.

    Brady is the most competitive/ driven QB in the game today. It has fueled him to greatness. That he still plays with the intensity he does given the years of success he has enjoyed is nearly unbelievable.

    Manning is the greatest field general in the game today. Physically he is simply not the player he was...

    I would love to have to choose between them in their prime. But as the OP pointed out this thread is about today... and today I take Aaron Rogers.

    As for posterity...

    Bart Starr won a lot of SBs.

    Joe Namath won one.

    Greater QB?

  • @koalabazooka said:

    Yeah, Irsay even admitted that Peyton would've won more SBs if he had brought in better talent.

    No he didn't. He didn't say that at all. He said, in a nut shell, that he got rid of Peyton because he couldn't win when it counted, even though they surrounded him with the weapons to give him the most elite offense in football.

    Nice misrepresentation.

    @nepatriots said:

    No he didn't. He didn't say that at all. He said, in a nut shell, that he got rid of Peyton because he couldn't win when it counted, even though they surrounded him with the weapons to give him the most elite offense in football.

    Nice misrepresentation.

    "Irsay meant to say that with better special teams and defense, Manning would've had more success in Indy."

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24092017/colts-owner-jim-irsay-clarifies-remarks-about-manning-super-bowls

  • Brady does have the Refs in his pocket. Would that make him the best?

  • Brady always gets the call, that makes him good.

    IMO Peyton is the best game manager and qb.

  • Here is the end of this discussion:

    Tom Brady is the better Quarterback

    You can close the thread now 😉