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For My Fellow QB Naysayers... Gun to Head, Which One Do You Take?

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  • W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
    #61

    Xx that is a very good reason for concern. Scouts prognosticators pundits sports aficionados are all divided on which of these guys is the real deal. Seems like we'd have some sort of consensus...

    WSS

  • Xx that is a very good reason for concern. Scouts prognosticators pundits sports aficionados are all divided on which of these guys is the real deal. Seems like we'd have some sort of consensus...

    WSS

    Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
    #62

    @westside-steve said:

    Xx that is a very good reason for concern. Scouts prognosticators pundits sports aficionados are all divided on which of these guys is the real deal. Seems like we'd have some sort of consensus...

    WSS

    it would definitely make it easier. But hell we had scouts saying theyd take RGIII over Luck, and Leaf over Manning. Maybe theyre all the real deal, maybe theyre all busts....
  • W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
    #63

    Well RG 3 might have easily been a superstar had he not been hurt. Same with our possibly rose colored version of Brian Hoyer...

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    Xx that is a very good reason for concern. Scouts prognosticators pundits sports aficionados are all divided on which of these guys is the real deal. Seems like we'd have some sort of consensus...

    WSS

    it would definitely make it easier. But hell we had scouts saying theyd take RGIII over Luck, and Leaf over Manning. Maybe theyre all the real deal, maybe theyre all busts....
    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
    #64

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    it would definitely make it easier. But hell we had scouts saying theyd take RGIII over Luck, and Leaf over Manning. Maybe theyre all the real deal, maybe theyre all busts....

    I think Luck was a bigger consensus #1 than Manning over Leaf though. I think some on the Colts staff wanted to take Leaf over Manning.

    Leaf is a guy that could have been good though. He signed that contract and basically said screw football. He just wanted to party and do drugs and be in the spot light. Another important thing to consider in player evaluations.

    I think RG3 could still be a good player, but I would have never taken him over Luck. I thought Luck should have won the heisman too that year.

  • XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    it would definitely make it easier. But hell we had scouts saying theyd take RGIII over Luck, and Leaf over Manning. Maybe theyre all the real deal, maybe theyre all busts....

    I think Luck was a bigger consensus #1 than Manning over Leaf though. I think some on the Colts staff wanted to take Leaf over Manning.

    Leaf is a guy that could have been good though. He signed that contract and basically said screw football. He just wanted to party and do drugs and be in the spot light. Another important thing to consider in player evaluations.

    I think RG3 could still be a good player, but I would have never taken him over Luck. I thought Luck should have won the heisman too that year.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @bbedward said:

    I think Luck was a bigger consensus #1 than Manning over Leaf though. I think some on the Colts staff wanted to take Leaf over Manning.

    Leaf is a guy that could have been good though. He signed that contract and basically said screw football. He just wanted to party and do drugs and be in the spot light. Another important thing to consider in player evaluations.

    I think RG3 could still be a good player, but I would have never taken him over Luck. I thought Luck should have won the heisman too that year.

    Billl Polian denies that they were ever considering Leaf. Manning was always the guy per him.

  • @bbedward said:

    I think Luck was a bigger consensus #1 than Manning over Leaf though. I think some on the Colts staff wanted to take Leaf over Manning.

    Leaf is a guy that could have been good though. He signed that contract and basically said screw football. He just wanted to party and do drugs and be in the spot light. Another important thing to consider in player evaluations.

    I think RG3 could still be a good player, but I would have never taken him over Luck. I thought Luck should have won the heisman too that year.

    Billl Polian denies that they were ever considering Leaf. Manning was always the guy per him.

    Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
    #66

    @the-gipper said:

    Billl Polian denies that they were ever considering Leaf. Manning was always the guy per him.

    I heard an interview that Leaf didn't want to be in Indy, but Indy was doing their due-diligence and wanted to interview him because some of their scouts preferred him. Leaf skipped the interview.
  • @the-gipper said:

    Billl Polian denies that they were ever considering Leaf. Manning was always the guy per him.

    I heard an interview that Leaf didn't want to be in Indy, but Indy was doing their due-diligence and wanted to interview him because some of their scouts preferred him. Leaf skipped the interview.
    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    I heard an interview that Leaf didn't want to be in Indy, but Indy was doing their due-diligence and wanted to interview him because some of their scouts preferred him. Leaf skipped the interview.

    Leigh Steinberg, Leaf's agent confirmed that they purposely ditched the Colts interview because he wanted to go to San Diego with the #2 pick.

    Polian said that action simply confirmed what they thought about Leaf's immaturity and confirmed that Manning was the choice to make.

    Did some Colt's scouts still like Leaf, perhaps. But I don't know about "preferred".

  • @bbedward said:

    I think Luck was a bigger consensus #1 than Manning over Leaf though. I think some on the Colts staff wanted to take Leaf over Manning.

    Leaf is a guy that could have been good though. He signed that contract and basically said screw football. He just wanted to party and do drugs and be in the spot light. Another important thing to consider in player evaluations.

    I think RG3 could still be a good player, but I would have never taken him over Luck. I thought Luck should have won the heisman too that year.

    Billl Polian denies that they were ever considering Leaf. Manning was always the guy per him.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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    @the-gipper said:

    Billl Polian denies that they were ever considering Leaf. Manning was always the guy per him.

    And Irsay said they never considered RG3 due to concerns that he'd get hurt... Luck was their guy all the way.

    Maybe we should ask Indy about this year's crop of QBs...

    In return we can advise them on RBs... 🙂

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    All questions that im glad I dont have to figure out.

    And I wish they'd ask me... 😉

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
    #69

    Thanks for the clarification.

    Seemed to me more scouts/blog scouts were a bit more split on Leaf/Manning than Luck/RG3 though.

    Hopefully Manziel doesn't turn into a Leaf type.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Billl Polian denies that they were ever considering Leaf. Manning was always the guy per him.

    And Irsay said they never considered RG3 due to concerns that he'd get hurt... Luck was their guy all the way.

    Maybe we should ask Indy about this year's crop of QBs...

    In return we can advise them on RBs... 🙂

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    All questions that im glad I dont have to figure out.

    And I wish they'd ask me... 😉

    Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    And Irsay said they never considered RG3 due to concerns that he'd get hurt... Luck was their guy all the way.

    Maybe we should ask Indy about this year's crop of QBs...

    In return we can advise them on RBs... 🙂

    I really dont think theyd trust us anymore lol.

    And I wish they'd ask me... 😉

    At this point id trust u more than the stooges to get this right...so me too.