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  • For me, the easy analysis of this D is that it hasn't allowed over 30 points this entire season.

    Yes. The run D is porous, but does stiffen up when needed. And has shown improvement over the past month.

    The Pass D has been solid all year and is really hitting on all cylinders right now.

    So, while we all thought the O was becoming the team identity....to me, the D is the REAL reason we haven't lost more games.....

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  • Interesting that Scwhwartz's D-scheme is what pressures QBs only rushing four... I thought the Bills have a great D-line.

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    For me, the easy analysis of this D is that it hasn't allowed over 30 points this entire season.

    Yes. The run D is porous, but does stiffen up when needed. And has shown improvement over the past month.

    The Pass D has been solid all year and is really hitting on all cylinders right now.

    So, while we all thought the O was becoming the team identity....to me, the D is the REAL reason we haven't lost more games.....

    @mudfly said:

    For me, the easy analysis of this D is that it hasn't allowed over 30 points this entire season.

    Yes. The run D is porous, but does stiffen up when needed. And has shown improvement over the past month.

    The Pass D has been solid all year and is really hitting on all cylinders right now.

    So, while we all thought the O was becoming the team identity....to me, the D is the REAL reason we haven't lost more games.....

    Because against the good teams we've played the offense played well. If we played a really good team with both a good offense to keep our defense on the field and a defense that took our offense off the field quickly...you'd get those 30 points. The other factor is that our secondary has become amazing. It's tough to put up showtime numbers on a stout secondary, which is why most teams have decided to test their run game. Basically our defense has still been thoroughly dominated and driven off the ball despite not giving up 30 or more points. Anytime a team runs for 100 yds the front seven was bested...when teams run for way over 100 yds, the front 7 got beasted. To put this in playoff terms, if you don't stop the run in the postseason your defense will get ground up and start to fold in the 2nd half...than the points start rolling in. Teams that have gotten gouged in the run in the playoffs that still made noise were teams with an offense that stayed on the field more than the opposing offense. A team with a Peyton Manning as QB can afford the mantra "we'll stop the run on the way to the QB"...because they know the offense has to start passing early to keep up.

  • The reason we have not given up 30 points is much simpler...

    We give up few big plays and as the field compresses we get tough. We have the 4th lowest TD percentage in the red zone at 44.44%.

    Early on we had the added advantage of a decisive TOP edge, but as the turnovers have risen that has disappeared.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    The reason we have not given up 30 points is much simpler...

    We give up few big plays and as the field compresses we get tough. We have the 4th lowest TD percentage in the red zone at 44.44%.

    Early on we had the added advantage of a decisive TOP edge, but as the turnovers have risen that has disappeared.

    @tour2ma said:

    The reason we have not given up 30 points is much simpler...

    We give up few big plays and as the field compresses we get tough. We have the 4th lowest TD percentage in the red zone at 44.44%.

    Early on we had the added advantage of a decisive TOP edge, but as the turnovers have risen that has disappeared.

    I see it the same...

    Look, all defenses have to concede something......and the other team usually takes what you give them....

    We DONT give up the big play, but we DO let em get 5.....it's a trade off....

    Ive seen our OLB's working as DE's and working the edge

    Ive seen the middle backers dropping and taking away the tight end and short pass game......and that style leaves a few gaps, yes, but fill the gaps and well be bitching about getting burned over the middle or on screens....

    Im happy with the direction of the D and think they are getting the scheme down. So, when we are healthy, we should be pretty solid......add a few key guys next year and we could be a top 5 D.....

  • George C said:

    You didn't understand what I wrote.

    Of course they didn't blitz this year. He doesn't have all of the pieces to run his defense. Why do you think you guys passed up one of these stud receivers for Gilbert? His style is constant pressure from more than four men. If mike feels Gilbert won't pan, or if mike thinks he doesn't have it, you will be drafting another one early. That's my view on how he builds the foundation for his style of defense. I think if you ask anyone else who understands his style, they would agree.

    If Mike believes Gilbert is indeed a capable man shut down corner, then you won't. Simple as that. But he values stud man cover corners more than anything else on defense. I'm sure he would trade six players if he could get his paws on another Joe H.

    You are correct. I did misunderstand. I wouldn't be surprised if the emphasis in the draft is defense or another cb, but Farmer is still the one that ultimately makes the pick.

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