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Should we consider Andre Smith Should he Fall to #5

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  • Alabama’s Smith does not post stellar numbers

    Andre Smith, one of the top offensive tackle prospects in this year’s draft, said he was relying on Alabama’s pro day to make up for the disappearing act he put on at the combine. Well, his times were not overly impressive, but he did at least work out.

    Smith measured in at 6-foot-4 ¼, 325 pounds and ran the 40-yard dash in 5.28 and 5.33 seconds. He had a 25-inch vertical, a 7-foot, 10-inch broad jump, a 7.88-second three-cone drill and 19 bench press reps at 225 pounds. His short shuttle time is still to come as are the times from his Alabama teammates.

    To put Smith’s workout in perspective, he did not post a single number that would have placed him in the top performers at his position at the combine and many of his numbers were not even close to the top 10 at his position at the combine.

    The 19 reps of 225 is very disappointing. Though Smith has very long arms, you'd think a guy that strong could work his way into the 25-30 range. The bench press is also considered a measure of endurance; that could have been a factor in Smith's poor performance.

    Aloysius said:

    The 19 reps of 225 is very disappointing. Though Smith has very long arms, you'd think a guy that strong could work his way into the 25-30 range. The bench press is also considered a measure of endurance; that could have been a factor in Smith's poor performance.

    And then they will watch the tapes.

    We can go by what happen in pads, or we can go by what happens in shorts.

    I think more picks are blown in this phase than any other.

    To much number watching and not enough tape watching.

  • Aloysius said:

    The 19 reps of 225 is very disappointing. Though Smith has very long arms, you'd think a guy that strong could work his way into the 25-30 range. The bench press is also considered a measure of endurance; that could have been a factor in Smith's poor performance.

    And then they will watch the tapes.

    We can go by what happen in pads, or we can go by what happens in shorts.

    I think more picks are blown in this phase than any other.

    To much number watching and not enough tape watching.

    @ballpeen said:

    And then they will watch the tapes.

    We can go by what happen in pads, or we can go by what happens in shorts.

    Can't we consider both?

    Smith is a strong, possibly elite run-blocker who struggles a little in pass pro against speed rushers. His 19 reps and soft body suggest that he isn't committed to working in the weight room. That could mean he's not going to get any better than he is right now, which is a concern for teams looking at guy who, on film, doesn't always look like a guy who could play left tackle in the pro's.

    Perhaps more importantly, Smith being in less than ideal shape could open him up to nagging and potentially serious injuries, which is something teams worry about when they're giving a guy a lot of guaranteed money. And if they're worried about his motivation, they have to know that giving him that kind of money isn't going to help.

  • Sure we can.......but this time of year I think people tend to out think themselves.

    Up to this point a player is evaluated on his play,,then the cookie cutters show up.

    It is still a game and I think people make it make it much more complicated than it really is.

    Again.....JMO

  • Aloysius said:

    The 19 reps of 225 is very disappointing. Though Smith has very long arms, you'd think a guy that strong could work his way into the 25-30 range. The bench press is also considered a measure of endurance; that could have been a factor in Smith's poor performance.

    19 reps is weak for a tackle who was once thought to be a lock for a top 3 pick.

    By the way, thanks for not posting the video of him running the 40. It's not a pretty sight when 340 pounders run with their shirts off.

    @the-hammer said:

    19 reps is weak for a tackle who was once thought to be a lock for a top 3 pick.

    By the way, thanks for not posting the video of him running the 40. It's not a pretty sight when 340 pounders run with their shirts off.

    just for you

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  • I just read an interesting article on Yahoo. One of the draft sites reported that some scouts were pissed that they had made the trip to watch Smith's workout. They also said one scout reported it was the worst workout he'd ever seen in his life.

    This reporter is saying he could drop as far as a day two pick. This I don't believe for a second. But it wouldn't shock me to see him fall to the second round.