Braylon rumors?
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Im starting to wonder if we are all watching the same browns? Now we have the excuses that he gets hung out to dry all the time, piss poor Qb trowing the ball, and gator arms.
Am I the only one that seen plenty of catches hit his hands with the defender a few yards behind or go through his hands and hit him in the face mask? Sure there were some uncathable but
His JOB is to CATCH the ball. Not all throws by any QB are right between the numbers on every pass but other wide outs seem to make the catch or take the hit for the team. The way some here talk it makes me wonder if I watched the same 16 games last year as the rest.
Im starting to wonder if we are all watching the same browns? Now we have the excuses that he gets hung out to dry all the time, piss poor Qb trowing the ball, and gator arms.
Am I the only one that seen plenty of catches hit his hands with the defender a few yards behind or go through his hands and hit him in the face mask?
Good question because you seem like the only person that forgets Edwards snagged 17 TD receptions the year before. That being the case, could you remind me how many of our WRs over the past 30 years have done better than that in 1 season? Who's the alternative exciting you more on our roster?
Sure he dropped the ball. Let's not be in such a hurry to label him as useless to our passing game as Northcutt. You know why you NOTICE drops more - because our QB wasn't capable of delivering more than 1 or 2 throws conducive to YAC instead of YUCK last year. We always notice the drops most when our QBing isn't up to snuff.
Against the NY Giants, Edwards had 5 receptions for 154 yards and 1 TD. I'm sure he dropped 1 that night too but it's amazing when Edwards understands he'll can get 5 more good opportunities to cash in on that game. More games like that from DA and there's NO QB controversy, WR worries and we're all setski. Like it or not, we ask alot of Edwards which requires winning jump balls in traffic and landing safely with them. He blew out his knee as a rookie in 1 of those jump balls; and thew SAME kid was ready to go week 1 the very next season. Remember the 80 yard bomb he scored on vrs the Saints called back for Shaffer holding? I do.
Here's the thing, and pay attention because it matters - when Randy Moss had a crappy Oakland QB throwing him passes, he dropped more passes than ever before, lost interest and found the Stallworth hammy excuses (you can only measure by "how are ya feeling?"). Then Moss went to the best QB, best team where he had Wes Welker clearing out people underneathe and minimizing as much attention as possible. He had similar luxuries in Minnesota.
Bottom line: the more weapons we put in this offense - the better each prong gets. When St Louis lost the luxury of Marshall Faulk's speed in that offense, the talent levels of Holt and Bruce depreciated pretty quickly. Don't you think not having a WR opposite Edwards increased traffic volumes and contact for Braylon? Like you asked - are we watching the same team?
- Tom F.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
i think everything can now officially be blamed on DA.
braylon forgot how to catch because DA sucks. braylon turned into a pussy because DA sucks. winslow was upset because DA sucks. quinn cried in his pants because DA sucks.
its about as old a limberg doggin quinn.
maybe, just maybe, braylon is a headcase, and had one lucky year. i see nothing different between DA being a one hit wonder and braylon being in the same boat.
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i really dont think anyone would give up a 1st rounder for butterfingers
i really dont think anyone would give up a 1st rounder for butterfingers
Unfortunately i dont think anyone would give a 1st for butterfingers either..the only guys we have that we can get 1st round picks for is rogers and maybe quinn...cribbs as well but we wont go there!
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Im starting to wonder if we are all watching the same browns? Now we have the excuses that he gets hung out to dry all the time, piss poor Qb trowing the ball, and gator arms.
Am I the only one that seen plenty of catches hit his hands with the defender a few yards behind or go through his hands and hit him in the face mask?
Good question because you seem like the only person that forgets Edwards snagged 17 TD receptions the year before. That being the case, could you remind me how many of our WRs over the past 30 years have done better than that in 1 season? Who's the alternative exciting you more on our roster?
Sure he dropped the ball. Let's not be in such a hurry to label him as useless to our passing game as Northcutt. You know why you NOTICE drops more - because our QB wasn't capable of delivering more than 1 or 2 throws conducive to YAC instead of YUCK last year. We always notice the drops most when our QBing isn't up to snuff.
Against the NY Giants, Edwards had 5 receptions for 154 yards and 1 TD. I'm sure he dropped 1 that night too but it's amazing when Edwards understands he'll can get 5 more good opportunities to cash in on that game. More games like that from DA and there's NO QB controversy, WR worries and we're all setski. Like it or not, we ask alot of Edwards which requires winning jump balls in traffic and landing safely with them. He blew out his knee as a rookie in 1 of those jump balls; and thew SAME kid was ready to go week 1 the very next season. Remember the 80 yard bomb he scored on vrs the Saints called back for Shaffer holding? I do.
Here's the thing, and pay attention because it matters - when Randy Moss had a crappy Oakland QB throwing him passes, he dropped more passes than ever before, lost interest and found the Stallworth hammy excuses (you can only measure by "how are ya feeling?"). Then Moss went to the best QB, best team where he had Wes Welker clearing out people underneathe and minimizing as much attention as possible. He had similar luxuries in Minnesota.
Bottom line: the more weapons we put in this offense - the better each prong gets. When St Louis lost the luxury of Marshall Faulk's speed in that offense, the talent levels of Holt and Bruce depreciated pretty quickly. Don't you think not having a WR opposite Edwards increased traffic volumes and contact for Braylon? Like you asked - are we watching the same team?
- Tom F.
Good question because you seem like the only person that forgets Edwards snagged 17 TD receptions the year before. That being the case, could you remind me how many of our WRs over the past 30 years have done better than that in 1 season? Who's the alternative exciting you more on our roster?
I Thought this thread was about trade value as of now? What good is he if there is no one else to be the #2? I'm looking past 2009.
Sure he dropped the ball. Let's not be in such a hurry to label him as useless to our passing game as Northcutt. You know why you NOTICE drops more - because our QB wasn't capable of delivering more than 1 or 2 throws conducive to YAC instead of YUCK last year. We always notice the drops most when our QBing isn't up to snuff.
I'm not calling him useless I say he has to work harder and maybe he will turn around but are we giong to sit and wait through that?
Like I said earlier "Am I the only one that seen plenty of catches hit his hands with the defender a few yards behind or go through his hands and hit him in the face mask? Sure there were some uncathable but
His JOB is to CATCH the ball. Not all throws by any QB are right between the numbers on every pass but other wide outs seem to make the catch or take the hit for the team." Do we pay these guys to catch?
Remember the 80 yard bomb he scored on vrs the Saints called back for Shaffer holding? I do.
No i don't remember playing them in 08 or 07 for that matter.
Do you remember-vs Bal. the ball that hit him in the hands when he ran a post and he was wide open and didn't catch it? 2008
Here's the thing, and pay attention because it matters - when Randy Moss had a crappy Oakland QB throwing him passes, he dropped more passes than ever before, lost interest and found the Stallworth hammy excuses (you can only measure by "how are ya feeling?"). Then Moss went to the best QB, best team where he had Wes Welker clearing out people underneathe and minimizing as much attention as possible. He had similar luxuries in Minnesota.
I see no comparison, Moss layed down hard on the Raiders even the press said it and I think most see it that way too.
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Masters said:
It's not just about the last 16 games you watched (and if you watched those you know the whole team underchieved and phoned in most of the season), but about the last 32 games to judge Braylon on. Really to truly evaluate the player, you have to look at every game he played in. When viewing that, BE had an off season in 2008 and can see the difference in how he goes after the ball (or didn't in 2008). Getting lit up a lot very often makes WR start protecting themselves, rather than just focusing on the ball and catch. It's not meant to be an excuse, but it is a reality in the equation.Here is what I see or saw plain and simple he doesn't look comfortable. He jumps when there is no need to jump looks up field before he makes the catch etc.
Yeah I will agree that most of the team quit and most of that was the coaches fault collectively but w/o a veteran presence in the locker room its hard to reunite a team with a hanging head.
How great would it be to have a Ray Lewis type presence to bitch slap some of these guys when they act like bitches.
Here is what I see or saw plain and simple he doesn't look comfortable. He jumps when there is no need to jump looks up field before he makes the catch etc.
Yeah I will agree that most of the team quit and most of that was the coaches fault collectively but w/o a veteran presence in the locker room its hard to reunite a team with a hanging head.
How great would it be to have a Ray Lewis type presence to bitch slap some of these guys when they act like bitches.
Edwards catches the ball with his body instead of his hands, again that's why he jumps when he doesn't have to. Most receivers who catch the ball with their body drop balls. Coaches worked every day in practice with Edwards to catch balls with his hands and bring them to his body and he does that during practice and in some games when he doesn't have time to think. But, he always reverts back letting the ball get to his body and trying to wrap his arms around it.
He knows how to catch and when he doesn't have to think (some circus catches) he makes catches with his hands. He lacks concentration and confidence. Once he drops a ball, he will try to jump up so the next one hits him in the gut and he can wrap it up.
Sorry, but he will never be a consistent receiver unless someone can get inside his head. So, you take what he gives you which is a combination of 2007 and 2008 and live with it or you move on. Reminds me of someone with ADD, and that isn't said to be funny. He defends himself because he lacks confidence yet he can't seem to maintain a high level of concentration. In one respect, he is somwhat like Dennis Northcutt, but bigger and a better physical specimen. I wonder how this guy did academically at Michigan and how he did on the NFL testing?
Bottom line is you can't blame it all on the QBs. Edwards is his own worst enemy.
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