Here Is My Concern If We Take A Qb At #2......
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That 10 or so other teams who DESPERATELY need a qb to build on below us looked at the options and said "eh....I'll pass on these guys as a high first rounder".
Thats 10+ groups of 'football people' who look at the qb options(well mostly Goff and Lynch) and all agree that they just aren't worth it. This in a league where getting a young franchise qb is akin to an alcoholic in withdrawl finding 3 dollars in change under the cushions for a half pint of aristocrat.
If it was one team who doesn't believe Goff or Lynch is worth trading up to take a qb in the high first round, that's one thing. Maybe their football people are just weird or whatever. But if not a single damn team says "we gotta give up some stuff to get in position to that this guy"? When they need a qb badly??!
Nevermind talking about the Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck type prospects of the world. Those sorts of #1 qb prospects are so valued that there is no combination of picks that could get them. But even guys like Robert Griffin(who coming out was about 7 levels below a prospect like Luck the same year) generate a ton of interest to jump up and grab him...for a high price. Had Tampa or Tennessee not needed a qb last year and wanted to trade out of that 1-2 spot, there would have been plenty of great offers of teams wanting to move up. And although Jameis and mariota certainly have upside and some strengths, they are far far from a sure thing to be very good nfl starters. The fact that these guys may not even be viewed in the same class as last years guys is concerning....and from the early talk they dont appear to be.
So if all these teams below us who have shit at qb aren't going to give tennessee a bunch in exchange to trade down, what does that say about the top qbs in this class? It says they don't think all that much of them.....
but it's early. Maybe there will be a lot of buzz later on about goff and a team will say "I gotta have him".....
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What alternative for QB do you suggest ? Besides Houston and the Rams, who has a worse QB situation than the Browns ?
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What alternative for QB do you suggest ? Besides Houston and the Rams, who has a worse QB situation than the Browns ?
What alternative for QB do you suggest ? Besides Houston and the Rams, who has a worse QB situation than the Browns ?
SF? Eagles?
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Qb. Let's draft the best one. And nothing else with the first pick. This mess all goes away with a good qb.
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What concerns me about taking a QB at #2 is overvaluing this draft class and its players even though its a consensus 'weak' class.
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What alternative for QB do you suggest ? Besides Houston and the Rams, who has a worse QB situation than the Browns ?
What alternative for QB do you suggest ? Besides Houston and the Rams, who has a worse QB situation than the Browns ?
probably no other team(their situation isnt any worse by the way than ours)....the point is that even though we may have the worst qb situation in the league, there are a BUNCH of teams that need qbs....so if goff or lynch were a special prospect, we'd have to go to 1 to get them.
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VesnaKociper said:
There is NEVER buzz this early. What The Fuck are talking about 10 other teams not being interested? You don't have a fucking clue what "10 other teams" are talking about. Only an idiot believes that teams are not looking at the best strategy to get one of the top two QBs. As I posted elsewhere, here in Memphis, sports reporters are already talking about TN trading their #1 to teams that want to jump the Browns and grab a QB first.
The QB is the single-most important position on the field. As such drafting until getting it right is just part of the way things have to be done.
The browns need a QB and they better make up theirs minds.
umm yeah there is. There was buzz on someone like manning or luck for almost 2 whole years. Plenty of buzz on the top 2 guys last year at this time.
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What concerns me about taking a QB at #2 is overvaluing this draft class and its players even though its a consensus 'weak' class.
What concerns me about taking a QB at #2 is overvaluing this draft class and its players even though its a consensus 'weak' class.
the concensus weak class isnt concerning because its just one pick.....it can be a weak class overall with a true stud in it.
What is more concerning will be if other teams dont have any interest to get to 1....that means they have essentially passed on these guys.
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What concerns me about taking a QB at #2 is overvaluing this draft class and its players even though its a consensus 'weak' class.
the concensus weak class isnt concerning because its just one pick.....it can be a weak class overall with a true stud in it.
What is more concerning will be if other teams dont have any interest to get to 1....that means they have essentially passed on these guys.
the concensus weak class isnt concerning because its just one pick.....it can be a weak class overall with a true stud in it.
What is more concerning will be if other teams dont have any interest to get to 1....that means they have essentially passed on these guys.
My point being, in a weak QB class the 'stud' QB will naturally stand out even though he may not have the abilities on par with QB's of previous classes.
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The qbs in this draft are not even close to top ten picks. They will only be picked that early by desperate reachers.
I'm done watching project picks based on needs. I want my first pick to play football not watch it because they aren't good enough to win the job. I don't even want to do that with the second pick.
Last time Hue was head coach he dipped into free agency to find a 'broken' Carson Palmer. I think he will love McCown at this stage of his career. He can develop a prospect at the same time.
Sashi will be heavily graded on this draft alone, so he better have a winning formula.
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My concern is what if someone trades up to #1, takes Goff, and then instead of taking Bosa at #2, we panic and trade down and draft and an offensive lineup or some other Dlineman.
I hope to god that doesn't happen.
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VesnaKociper said:
There is NEVER buzz this early. What The Fuck are talking about 10 other teams not being interested? You don't have a fucking clue what "10 other teams" are talking about. Only an idiot believes that teams are not looking at the best strategy to get one of the top two QBs. As I posted elsewhere, here in Memphis, sports reporters are already talking about TN trading their #1 to teams that want to jump the Browns and grab a QB first.
The QB is the single-most important position on the field. As such drafting until getting it right is just part of the way things have to be done.
The browns need a QB and they better make up theirs minds.
Ooohhh, there's no Andrew Luck this year. Like about every year since Elway? Taco, chill out- we'll either get the qb we want- or Bosa. Take it to the bank.
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The qbs in this draft are not even close to top ten picks. They will only be picked that early by desperate reachers.
I'm done watching project picks based on needs. I want my first pick to play football not watch it because they aren't good enough to win the job. I don't even want to do that with the second pick.
Last time Hue was head coach he dipped into free agency to find a 'broken' Carson Palmer. I think he will love McCown at this stage of his career. He can develop a prospect at the same time.
Sashi will be heavily graded on this draft alone, so he better have a winning formula.
The qbs in this draft are not even close to top ten picks. They will only be picked that early by desperate reachers.
Based on what exactly?
Last time Hue was head coach he dipped into free agency to find a 'broken' Carson Palmer. I think he will love McCown at this stage of his career. He can develop a prospect at the same time.
Ok, first hue wasn't in charge of anything in Oakland. Al Davis was in full blown Retard mode still. And iirc Palmer was brought in mid season. Unbroken, if anything rusty having missed training camp and no time to prepare.
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What this draft doesnt have is a clear cut #1. What it has is a bunch of guys who all have about the same chance of success. Wouldnt it make sense to draft a sure thing in the first and draft the best of whats available at 32? Were almost guaranteed either Lynch, Wentz or Cook. We could even wait till the 3rd for Jones or Hack. If we could land say Bosa, a reciever and a decent QB, hows that not the best option?
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Keep drafting a QB in the first round until you find a good one. I don't care if it takes 10 years.
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Goff is the guy, sorry fellas.
Last time we've taken the consensus #1 was 1999 (was it even consensus then?)
Everybody here will be happy with Goff when he takes us to our first super bowl.
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