Cleveland Area In the Finals
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Not with the same refs refing the same corrupt way. That was a bunch of crap....
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It's almost like I never even posted about Buffalo just 2 posts before you within this flow of discussion. God bless ya!
I know you did. I was just reiterating it along with the documentation of other cities that lost 5 or more Finals in a row. You had already supplied the flesh and muscles, I was just giving the bare bones.
I know you did. I was just reiterating it along with the documentation of other cities that lost 5 or more Finals in a row. You had already supplied the flesh and muscles, I was just giving the bare bones.
I was just busting your chops Gips. It was actually good someone else wanted to acknowledge how similar Buffalo is to Cleveland in regard to losing championships in their pro sports; and how long it's been since either football team has won a playoff game. They're also on Lake Erie. A lot of similarities...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Partially answering the question I posed above, as I find these I will list them:
1. The teams from the City of Vancouver have lost 7 consecutive Stanley Cup Finals that they have appeared in: They won the Stanley Cup in 1915 and have since lost in: 1921, 1922, 1923, 1924, 1982, 1994 and 2011. So this streak is on going for over 100 years now.
2. Teams from NYC lost World Series games 6 times in a row to teams from other cities in 1911, 1912, 1913, 1916, 1917 and 1920.
(But starting in 1921 teams from NYC both won and lost WS 4 years in a row).
3. Of course the other city that has suffered as much as Cleveland is Buffalo, who won their last title as a city in 1965, one year after Cleveland, and since then they have lost in the finals as follows:
1975 Sabres lost in NHL Finals
1990 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1991 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1992 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1993 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1999 Sabres lost in NHL Finals
It may be possible that some other city has had 5 or 6 Finals losses in a row. But it is very difficult to sift through it, so I may wait for another time to look.
3. Of course the other city that has suffered as much as Cleveland is Buffalo, who won their last title as a city in 1965, one year after Cleveland, and since then they have lost in the finals as follows:
1975 Sabres lost in NHL Finals
1990 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1991 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1992 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1993 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1999 Sabres lost in NHL Finals
It may be possible that some other city has had 5 or 6 Finals losses in a row. But it is very difficult to sift through it, so I may wait for another time to look.
Certainly Buffalo has suffered, but Cleveland having 3 sports teams, the odds are higher that at least one of them win a championship in our lifetimes. That's gotta make the suffering and or frustration greater.
It goes without saying fans of a city having 4 pro sports teams has a better chance of seeing a champion than a city with only 1 pro sports team.
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3. Of course the other city that has suffered as much as Cleveland is Buffalo, who won their last title as a city in 1965, one year after Cleveland, and since then they have lost in the finals as follows:
1975 Sabres lost in NHL Finals
1990 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1991 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1992 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1993 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1999 Sabres lost in NHL Finals
It may be possible that some other city has had 5 or 6 Finals losses in a row. But it is very difficult to sift through it, so I may wait for another time to look.
Certainly Buffalo has suffered, but Cleveland having 3 sports teams, the odds are higher that at least one of them win a championship in our lifetimes. That's gotta make the suffering and or frustration greater.
It goes without saying fans of a city having 4 pro sports teams has a better chance of seeing a champion than a city with only 1 pro sports team.
"Bwallow has swuffered bwut Cwevewland ...."Certainly Buffalo has suffered, but Cleveland having 3 sports teams, the odds are higher that at least one of them win a championship in our lifetimes. That's gotta make the suffering and or frustration greater.
It goes without saying fans of a city having 4 pro sports teams has a better chance of seeing a champion than a city with only 1 pro sports team.
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I know you did. I was just reiterating it along with the documentation of other cities that lost 5 or more Finals in a row. You had already supplied the flesh and muscles, I was just giving the bare bones.
I was just busting your chops Gips. It was actually good someone else wanted to acknowledge how similar Buffalo is to Cleveland in regard to losing championships in their pro sports; and how long it's been since either football team has won a playoff game. They're also on Lake Erie. A lot of similarities...
I was just busting your chops Gips. It was actually good someone else wanted to acknowledge how similar Buffalo is to Cleveland in regard to losing championships in their pro sports; and how long it's been since either football team has won a playoff game. They're also on Lake Erie. A lot of similarities...
And Detroit is basically on the other end of Lake Erie, and the Lions haven't won anything in a longer time than the Browns and Bills (1957). Must be something in that lake's water.
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3. Of course the other city that has suffered as much as Cleveland is Buffalo, who won their last title as a city in 1965, one year after Cleveland, and since then they have lost in the finals as follows:
1975 Sabres lost in NHL Finals
1990 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1991 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1992 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1993 Bills lost in Super Bowl
1999 Sabres lost in NHL Finals
It may be possible that some other city has had 5 or 6 Finals losses in a row. But it is very difficult to sift through it, so I may wait for another time to look.
Certainly Buffalo has suffered, but Cleveland having 3 sports teams, the odds are higher that at least one of them win a championship in our lifetimes. That's gotta make the suffering and or frustration greater.
It goes without saying fans of a city having 4 pro sports teams has a better chance of seeing a champion than a city with only 1 pro sports team.
Certainly Buffalo has suffered, but Cleveland having 3 sports teams, the odds are higher that at least one of them win a championship in our lifetimes. That's gotta make the suffering and or frustration greater.
It goes without saying fans of a city having 4 pro sports teams has a better chance of seeing a champion than a city with only 1 pro sports team.
At one time Buffalo did have 3 teams. The LA Clippers nee San Diego Clippers nee Buffalo Braves started out there....playing there in 1970-1978. They were an expansion team along with the Cavs in 1970....and also the Portland Trailblazers joined that year.
Actually, that same year, 1970 Buffalo got 2 new teams: The Braves and the Sabres started as well that year.
They went from one pro sports team...to 3....plus 1970 is the year of the AFL/NFL merger.
That year the Cavs were formed and the Browns switched conferences.
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I was just busting your chops Gips. It was actually good someone else wanted to acknowledge how similar Buffalo is to Cleveland in regard to losing championships in their pro sports; and how long it's been since either football team has won a playoff game. They're also on Lake Erie. A lot of similarities...
And Detroit is basically on the other end of Lake Erie, and the Lions haven't won anything in a longer time than the Browns and Bills (1957). Must be something in that lake's water.
And Detroit is basically on the other end of Lake Erie, and the Lions haven't won anything in a longer time than the Browns and Bills (1957). Must be something in that lake's water.
Good point. You Know what's interesting though? The Pistons, Red Wings and Tigers have all won championships but none of that has ever made it easier on the Lions and their fans.
Do the Great Lakes have a Bermuda Triangle effect on their NFL franchises getting detoured from winning championships especially after the 60s?
Gale Sayers and Dick Butkus never even competed in a post season. As good as the 85 Bears were, only 1 SB championship with all that talent on 1 side of the ball and Walter Payton on the other tells me that team underachieved long term in a world where Trent Dilfer also has 1 SB ring. The Green Bay Packers after the 60s had an extended forgettable period before the Magic Man, Favre and Rodgers replenished the winning and excitement. That said, all this time Favre was fascinating John Madden and countless football fans - he only won 1 Superbowl before losing as a favorite to Denver. When GB went 9-7 with Aaron Rodgers - their road to the SB was on the road beginning indoors at Atlanta and getting past Jay Cutler's backup in the Windy City before they did the right beating Pittsburgh down south. After that year, Rodgers lost a playoff game at home to a Giants team they were favored to beat. They haven't been back to the SB. Minnesota lost 4 Superbowls and never got a 15-1 team to a Superbowl because a place kicker (Mortens Andersens) who didn't miss a FG all season missed a routine FG. Their most recent post season loss was due to a chip shot FG missed at home vrs Seattle.
Now add the Bills, Browns and Lions to all that and does the sum of disappointment = more than a coincidence? It sure seems like there should have been a lot more NFL Championships celebrated in the Great Lakes region. This hasn't been nearly as exclusive to Cleveland as it has felt at times.
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Despite these last two losses I fully expect the Cavs to make the NBA Finals. So, now here is the history of Cleveland teams in the Finals of all the 4 major sports....or should I say 3...as Cleveland has only had an NHL hockey team for a scant two years in history. (no playoffs for the Cleveland Barons):
1920 Cleveland Indians defeat the Brooklyn Robins nka Dodgers in the WS
1920 Akron Pros win NFL title (no playoffs)
1922 Canton Bulldogs win NFL title ..no playoff
1923 Canton Buldogs win NFL title...no playoffs
1924 Cleveland Bulldogs win NFL title...no playoffs
1945 Cleveland Rams win NFL title over Wash. Redskins
1946 Cleveland Browns win AAFC title over NY Yankees
1947 Cleveland Browns win AAFC title over NY Yankees
1948 Cleveland Indians win WS over Boston Braves
1948 Clevland Browns win AAFC over Buffalo Bills
1949 Cleveland Browns win AAFC over SF 49ers
1950 Cleveland Browns win NFL title over LA Rams
1951 Cleveland Browns lose NFL title to LA RAms
1952 Cleveland Browns lose NFL title to Detroit Lions
1953 Cleveland Browns lose NFL title to Detroit Lions
1954 Cleveland Indians lose WS to NY Giants
1954 Cleveland Browns win NFL title over Detroit Lions
1955 Cleveland Browns win NFL title over LA Rams
1957 Cleveland Browns lose NFL title to Detroit Lions
1964 Cleveland Browns win NFL title over Baltimore Colts
1965 Cleveland Browns lose NFL title to Green Bay Packers
1995 Cleveland Indians lose WS to Atlanta Braves
1997 Cleveland Indians lose WS to Florida Marlins
2007 Cleveland Cavaliers lose NBA finals to San Antonio Spurs
2015 Cleveland Cavaliers lost NBA finals to Golden State Warriors
Winning years in blue, losing years in red non postseason play titles in green
Despite these last two losses I fully expect the Cavs to make the NBA Finals. So, now here is the history of Cleveland teams in the Finals of all the 4 major sports....or should I say 3...as Cleveland has only had an NHL hockey team for a scant two years in history. (no playoffs for the Cleveland Barons):
1920 Cleveland Indians defeat the Brooklyn Robins nka Dodgers in the WS
1920 Akron Pros win NFL title (no playoffs)
1922 Canton Bulldogs win NFL title ..no playoff
1923 Canton Buldogs win NFL title...no playoffs
1924 Cleveland Bulldogs win NFL title...no playoffs
1945 Cleveland Rams win NFL title over Wash. Redskins
1946 Cleveland Browns win AAFC title over NY Yankees
1947 Cleveland Browns win AAFC title over NY Yankees
1948 Cleveland Indians win WS over Boston Braves
1948 Clevland Browns win AAFC over Buffalo Bills
1949 Cleveland Browns win AAFC over SF 49ers
1950 Cleveland Browns win NFL title over LA Rams
1951 Cleveland Browns lose NFL title to LA RAms
1952 Cleveland Browns lose NFL title to Detroit Lions
1953 Cleveland Browns lose NFL title to Detroit Lions
1954 Cleveland Indians lose WS to NY Giants
1954 Cleveland Browns win NFL title over Detroit Lions
1955 Cleveland Browns win NFL title over LA Rams
1957 Cleveland Browns lose NFL title to Detroit Lions
1964 Cleveland Browns win NFL title over Baltimore Colts
1965 Cleveland Browns lose NFL title to Green Bay Packers
1995 Cleveland Indians lose WS to Atlanta Braves
1997 Cleveland Indians lose WS to Florida Marlins
2007 Cleveland Cavaliers lose NBA finals to San Antonio Spurs
2015 Cleveland Cavaliers lost NBA finals to Golden State Warriors
2016 Cleveland Cavaliers win NBA title over Golden State Warriors
Winning years in blue, losing years in red non postseason play titles in green
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