I HATE RAY HORTON
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Screw Jim Oneil all his fault we can't pressure the QB
So I read this and just laughed and laughed.....
Just went back and read a bunch of old threads, with all the ranting about Oneills "scheme" and how the coaches made this D so bad by mis using players and having a bad scheme etc.....one poster(Cal) said the team would be 4 games better just by switching coaches......haaaaaaaaaahahahaha.....
After giving up on the battle, trying to convince the lynch mob that talent was the answer(not coaching), I posted......"I cant wait till they fire Oneill and when the new defensive coordinator still cant stop the run or win a game cause he has shit players, then ya'll can start blaming the new coach"...
And it didnt take long(at all)......(or course most of those people are completely awol right now.....and I also notice the board has zero chatter about "good" stuff, up and coming players, general sunshine pumping, great plays, etc.......why?......
So, which is it??......Horton sucks? Oneill sucks? the players suck?......all of the above?.......or blame it on Who?......anyone?
Haaaaaaaaaahahahaha....... it's so bad, it's become funny......
Funny thing is the Browns are the 2nd worst defense in the NFL only the 49ers are worse and guess who is their defensive coordinatorSo I read this and just laughed and laughed.....
Just went back and read a bunch of old threads, with all the ranting about Oneills "scheme" and how the coaches made this D so bad by mis using players and having a bad scheme etc.....one poster(Cal) said the team would be 4 games better just by switching coaches......haaaaaaaaaahahahaha.....
After giving up on the battle, trying to convince the lynch mob that talent was the answer(not coaching), I posted......"I cant wait till they fire Oneill and when the new defensive coordinator still cant stop the run or win a game cause he has shit players, then ya'll can start blaming the new coach"...
And it didnt take long(at all)......(or course most of those people are completely awol right now.....and I also notice the board has zero chatter about "good" stuff, up and coming players, general sunshine pumping, great plays, etc.......why?......
So, which is it??......Horton sucks? Oneill sucks? the players suck?......all of the above?.......or blame it on Who?......anyone?
Haaaaaaaaaahahahaha....... it's so bad, it's become funny......
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Funny thing is the Browns are the 2nd worst defense in the NFL only the 49ers are worse and guess who is their defensive coordinatorSo I read this and just laughed and laughed.....
Just went back and read a bunch of old threads, with all the ranting about Oneills "scheme" and how the coaches made this D so bad by mis using players and having a bad scheme etc.....one poster(Cal) said the team would be 4 games better just by switching coaches......haaaaaaaaaahahahaha.....
After giving up on the battle, trying to convince the lynch mob that talent was the answer(not coaching), I posted......"I cant wait till they fire Oneill and when the new defensive coordinator still cant stop the run or win a game cause he has shit players, then ya'll can start blaming the new coach"...
And it didnt take long(at all)......(or course most of those people are completely awol right now.....and I also notice the board has zero chatter about "good" stuff, up and coming players, general sunshine pumping, great plays, etc.......why?......
So, which is it??......Horton sucks? Oneill sucks? the players suck?......all of the above?.......or blame it on Who?......anyone?
Haaaaaaaaaahahahaha....... it's so bad, it's become funny......
Funny thing is the Browns are the 2nd worst defense in the NFL only the 49ers are worse and guess who is their defensive coordinator
LOL! Let me see. An ex Brown DC?

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This thread needs revived. We need Horton gone. The defensive problems this team has are far far beyond just having young, unproven talent.
The defensive schemes are atrocious. The tackling is atrocious. Players are absolutely confused about what their assignments are. There is some seriously pathetic coaching going on. How can Horton last?
This thread needs revived.
lol... I'll give you a pass this time...

There's so many times when I just think to myself "why would you possibly put guys in that position?" I can literally call the play the offense is going to run and yep, there's the gainer.
I'm no Horton fan from his first stint with us, but shouldn't your criticism in part be aimed at the player on the field responsible for calling adjustments?
I know that player has to be coached up and that goes back to Horton, but it sounds like you are blaming Ray for not being psychic when he undoubtedly is fed down and distance tendencies by the advanced scouts?
We do have advanced scouts, right?
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