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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by

    Why the fuck would we trade anything for AJ McCarron

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by

    Bill Belichik

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by

    Dangit, he's not Dick Shiner.

  • Hoorta --If you don't want to give up draft picks for Garrappolo or McCarron there's no trade possible, and that's fine, but lets stop pretending this has anything to do with Dick Shiner or the Bengals not wanting to trade a young QB to a division rival.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by

    @umadogg1 said:

    Hoorta --If you don't want to give up draft picks for Garrappolo or McCarron there's no trade possible, and that's fine, but lets stop pretending this has anything to do with Dick Shiner or the Bengals not wanting to trade a young QB to a division rival.

    The Bengals certainly can shop McCarron, and the Patriots Garropolo. I'm saying that asking price you're talking about is absurd for McCarron- in division or not.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Why the fuck would we trade anything for AJ McCarron

    One of our conditional fifths? Yeah- won't happen- he's darn near a clone of Kessler.

  • L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by

    No Manning was UNLUCKY only to win one running into snow storms against a team with the opposition playbook arelady in hand

    This has become a Patriots forum the last few weeks

  • Why the fuck would we trade anything for AJ McCarron

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Why the fuck would we trade anything for AJ McCarron

    He was a starting QB for a long time at a big school in a relatively pro-style offense, who has spent time in and knows Hue Jackson's scheme.

    Now - am I talking about McCarron or Kessler? Yeah, pass on McCarron.

  • Why the fuck would we trade anything for AJ McCarron

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Why the fuck would we trade anything for AJ McCarron

    Because he was my 2014 darkhorse?

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @boo-fagley said:

    Defense wins championships.

    You can say it. Its OK.

    Defense gets you close. Balance wins championships.

    Even the greatest defenses in history didn't win it alone.

    I mean....the 1985 Bears had McMahon, Walter, Willie Gault......a pretty damned good offense.

    The 2000 Ravens had a shit offense at first...that is true. But check out the numbers that their offense put up once Dilfer took over:

    Here are the points they scored: 27, 24, 27, 44, 24, 34

    And they scored 34 points against the Giants in the Super Bowl.

  • Gipper...If it isn't business as usual the problem is likely on your end.

    Agree to pay what the Bengals are asking and I'm guessing your team will soon have a brand new starting QB who already knows your offense.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @umadogg1 said:

    Gipper...If it isn't business as usual the problem is likely on your end.

    Agree to pay what the Bengals are asking and I'm guessing your team will soon have a brand new starting QB who already knows your offense.

    Tell me any time the Bengals have ever made a trade with the Browns/Steelers/Ravens...or going back to Houston etc.

  • Who's Dick Shiner?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @wargograw said:

    Who's Dick Shiner?

    Aren't you one?

    Nevertheless: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/ShinDi00.htm

  • Who's Dick Shiner?

    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by

    @wargograw said:

    Who's Dick Shiner?

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  • U Umadogg1 wrote on last edited by

    Gipper --You're missing the point either accidentally or deliberately. The fact there are no intradivision trades is only proof of at least one teams reluctance to trade. I'm telling you the reluctant team wouldn't be Cincinnati. The compensation they receive would be the same regardless. Rather, the reluctant party would be Cleveland, and for proof...just listen to your fellow brownie fans. McCarron isn't worth this, that or the other thing they say. Don't trade the draft picks to a rival.

  • Gipper --You're missing the point either accidentally or deliberately. The fact there are no intradivision trades is only proof of at least one teams reluctance to trade. I'm telling you the reluctant team wouldn't be Cincinnati. The compensation they receive would be the same regardless. Rather, the reluctant party would be Cleveland, and for proof...just listen to your fellow brownie fans. McCarron isn't worth this, that or the other thing they say. Don't trade the draft picks to a rival.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @umadogg1 said:

    Gipper --You're missing the point either accidentally or deliberately. The fact there are no intradivision trades is only proof of at least one teams reluctance to trade. I'm telling you the reluctant team wouldn't be Cincinnati. The compensation they receive would be the same regardless. Rather, the reluctant party would be Cleveland, and for proof...just listen to your fellow brownie fans. McCarron isn't worth this, that or the other thing they say. Don't trade the draft picks to a rival.

    I am not missing any point. You are just being obtuse and delusional if you think that there is not major reluctance on the part of teams to make intradivisional trades.

    Again....show me an instance where the Bengals made a trade with a team in the division.

    Why don't the Pats just go ahead and trade Garropolo to the Jets. They are desperate for a QB.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @ghoolie said:

    Dick Shiner, AJ Mc-Care-less.

    Hey, while we are discussing meaningless shit and watching paint dry, let's make a list of the things Joe Thomas has done for the Browns.

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    10 Pro Bowls

  • U Umadogg1 wrote on last edited by

    Sometimes it's funny the way you guys act like you've already got a QB.

  • B browns52 wrote on last edited by

    @boo-fagley said:

    Defense wins championships.

    You can say it. Its OK.

    defense wins championships...ask dan fouts....guy was great but man did his defenses suck ass big time...if they stunk he would have won a superbowl..they were that bad...

  • Sometimes it's funny the way you guys act like you've already got a QB.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @umadogg1 said:

    Sometimes it's funny the way you guys act like you've already got a QB.

    I'm pretty sure we are all aware of our QB need...

    It's just that we also know that flailing around for one is not productive... and it was a hard lesson to learn.

  • Sometimes it's funny the way you guys act like you've already got a QB.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @umadogg1 said:

    Sometimes it's funny the way you guys act like you've already got a QB.

    We don't have a QB, doofus....and we ain't getting one with a trade with the Bengals.

    Again, show me where the Bengals have ever made a trade with the Browns/Ravens/Steelers.

    It would be a very rare happening. Like we said, we went from the late 60s to 2016 to find a trade with the Browns and Steelers.

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Defense wins championships.

    You can say it. Its OK.

    defense wins championships...ask dan fouts....guy was great but man did his defenses suck ass big time...if they stunk he would have won a superbowl..they were that bad...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @browns52 said:

    defense wins championships...ask dan fouts....guy was great but man did his defenses suck ass big time...if they stunk he would have won a superbowl..they were that bad...

    Sure, Dan Fouts could have used a better defense.....but how close would DAn Fouts's team have come without Dan Fouts?

  • Sometimes it's funny the way you guys act like you've already got a QB.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by

    @umadogg1 said:

    Sometimes it's funny the way you guys act like you've already got a QB.

    I fail to see where trading for McCarron would net us a QB.

    The dude is butt