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  • To all intents and purposes, I have effectively stopped listening to sports talk for this exact reason. Tomorrow, after we've (hopefully) taken Garret, no one's gonna remember how these douche bags stirred the pot, nor will they take any accountability for their bs.

    I remember years ago the NY Post reporting on the same day that Lou Holtz was staying as coach of the Jets, the Knicks were calling off trade talks for Bob McAdoo and that Muhammad Ali has officially retired. Next day, same paper, Holtz took off to Notre Dame, Knicks acquired McAdoo, Ali announced that he was fighting (maybe Holmes?)...

    It's all crap just to keep us engaged. Most of these guys know nothing more than the fans here.

  • And your examples are from a time when sports reporters had integrity... 🙂

    A few still do, e.g., Chris Mortensen.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • darren15D darren15

    Teams would want both our number 2s this year and next years 2

    @darren15 said:

    Teams would want both our number 2s this year and next years 2

    Nah, depends on how high we would move....

    @jrb12711 said:

    Just depends on where they trade up to IMO. We go all the way to #2, we'd be talking a 1st/3rd. 6 to 12? Perhaps two second rounders and a 3rd.

    Again depends- if you use the JJ chart the #2 pick is worth 2,600. Our #12 is worth 1,200. That would mean our #12 & #33 plus a first and second in 2018. The move to the Titans #5 is far less costly. Only need to "make up" 500 points. Our #52 is worth 380. That and the lowest of our second round picks in 2018 is plenty. I'd bet the Titans would take it without a second thought. First Mitch has to get past the 49ers and Bears to make it happen. Tour did point out the 49ers might have Cousins on their minds in 2018, and just might go defense. The Bears need a lot, but picking up Glennon and paying him means they can wait to draft a project qb.

    And to those who think we're trading up to draft a defensive player- forget it. Plenty of top defenders to be had at #12. The only way we're trading up is for a QB, and it has to be the one they have rated as the #1 QB prospect.

  • Guess which chart the Tits would favor...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Honestly, if this FO believes Trubisky is the answer at QB, take him at 1. I'd prefer Garrett and BPA at 12, but with the defensive depth of this draft the last thing I would want is to trade up from 12.

    If the Browns end up spending 1, 12, 33, and 65 to draft Trubisky and Garrett, I'll be pissed. I'd much rather just take the QB at 1, then use those three picks to get 3 defensive players. Some years the trade up would be ok, but with the talent pool being as deep as it is this year..... just make the picks.

    Is it 8pm yet?

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