HOF Weekend
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Timberlake's a showman with Big Band inclinations in his latest incarnation... both right up Jerrah's alley.
Meanwhile, "Jimmy 'Pulling His Own' Johnson didn't build shit," ranks among the most ignorant statements ever posted in this forum.
Dick Butkus.....HOF LB....in fact, considered perhaps one of the 10 greatest players ever.....and I believe that he never played in a postseason game. So, there you go with the whole playoff success being mandatory for HOF consideration.
Hmmmm... got me thinking...
Playoff success only seems to be a QB criteria... seems to be only mentioned in passing with every other position. And the degree to which it is emphasized for QBs seems to depend on how much it is needed to justify entry.
Closest thing to this QB phenomena would be HC.
Timberlake's a showman with Big Band inclinations in his latest incarnation... both right up Jerrah's alley.
Meanwhile, "Jimmy 'Pulling His Own' Johnson didn't build shit," ranks among the most ignorant statements ever posted in this forum.
Hmmmm... got me thinking...
Playoff success only seems to be a QB criteria... seems to be only mentioned in passing with every other position. And the degree to which it is emphasized for QBs seems to depend on how much it is needed to justify entry.
Closest thing to this QB phenomena would be HC.
True....a QB does have to be more outstanding to warrant HOF consideration...if he has no rings, than it seems that players at other positions do. Of course a few do make it without rings: In the SB era: Marino..Only 1 SB appearance., Fouts...none, Sonny Jurgenson,..none. Warren Moon...None., Fran Tarkenton never won but got to 3 SBs. Jim Kelly...none but 4 appearances. But I do count 14 others that did play in the SB era, and they have won SB rings.
Aikman
Elway,
Montana
Young
Warner
Bradshaw
Dawson
Griese
Stabler
Starr
Staubach
Unitas
Favre
Warner
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@boo-fagley said:
Joe Namath would not get in today IMO.
I believe for a QB to get in without a Super Bowl win he must have sustained greatness - Kelly, Marino, Fran, Fouts, Moon.
And OOPs, it looks like I left Namath out. But, Joe is in because he was the pivotal figure in one of the most seminal moments of football history.
(but note, some of his numbers are about on par with other HOF QBs of his era.....remember, back then a 1:1 TD to Int. ratio was about as good as could be expected...see the thread about 1978)
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@boo-fagley said:
Yup, Namath made the AFL a viable league. Plus, he was playing in the NYC market. At times there is East coast bias.
Yes, I am sure that helped.
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@boo-fagley said:
Yup, Namath made the AFL a viable league. Plus, he was playing in the NYC market. At times there is East coast bias.
Yes, I am sure that helped.
Yes, I am sure that helped.
Hell yes, some of the old AFL guys were crying when da' JETS beat the old established NFL team. Cemented his legacy right there! Too bad Namath wasn't 100% even going back to his Alabama years.
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Jim Plunkett started and won 2 Super Bowls (also SB XV MVP) but you'll not hear his name mentioned in the HOF.
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Yes, I am sure that helped.
Hell yes, some of the old AFL guys were crying when da' JETS beat the old established NFL team. Cemented his legacy right there! Too bad Namath wasn't 100% even going back to his Alabama years.
Hell yes, some of the old AFL guys were crying when da' JETS beat the old established NFL team. Cemented his legacy right there! Too bad Namath wasn't 100% even going back to his Alabama years.
He was a very good, dual-threat QB coming out of HS in western PA. Wrecked a knee early in his BAMA days in the era of "stone-knives and bearskins" knee surgery.
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Hell yes, some of the old AFL guys were crying when da' JETS beat the old established NFL team. Cemented his legacy right there! Too bad Namath wasn't 100% even going back to his Alabama years.
He was a very good, dual-threat QB coming out of HS in western PA. Wrecked a knee early in his BAMA days in the era of "stone-knives and bearskins" knee surgery.
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