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2017 QBs who are: 1. Holding back their teams. 2. Elevating their teams.

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  • Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe

    @tour2ma said:

    For me it's that NE is so damn good everywhere that had Tom Terrific gone down this season, I think Jimmy G would likely have led them into the playoffs and possibly as far as the AFC Championship game.

    Brady is a great QB... greatest of all time in my book in part because there have been seasons when he has clearly elevated the team around him significantly. I just don't see this as being one of those years.

    I think you’re seeing in Green Bay just how much Rodgers means to that team.

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    I think you’re seeing in Green Bay just how much Rodgers means to that team.

    Absolutely... but he's not playing right now.

    @nero said:

    For me the key in New England are the coaches. No matter who gets injured/traded, they keep getting the team ready and become a contender. But Brady has had seasons with ''no name receivers'' and still had great QB numbers. 

    I don't agree when people say ''Belichick would be nothing without Brady'' or ''Brady would be nothing without Belichick'' etc (same goes for last year Dallas, for example). I think both have achieved unknown limits (5 SBs, 7 appearances and I don't know how many AFC Championship appearances in a cap salary era...) simply because both are the best at their job and benefit from each other.  

    His stats are 279/408   68.4 %  3,374 Yards 8.3 Avg yards 26TD 3INT 111.7 Qbr 

    At this rate he's going to end up near 5,000 yards (there have been 9 over 5,000 yard quaterback seasons in the history)

    If he's not elevating his team, I don't know what he's doing...

    Filling a role? Saying the coaches are key is akin to talking about "the system"... a system for which Tom is the trigger man. It's a symbiotic relationship deluxe.

    His 2017 campaign is only one game shy of his 2016 regular season thanks to deflategate. Let's compare them...

    2016* 39 NWE QB 12 12 12 11-1-0 291 432 67.4   3554 28 6.5    2   0.5    79   8.2 9.3 12.2 296.2 112.2 83.0 15 87 7.76   8.81   3.4      2       2    13
    2017 40 NWE QB 12 11 11   9-2-0 279 408 68.4   3374 26 6.4    3   0.7    64   8.3 9.2 12.1 306.7 111.7 74.8  24 144 7.48   8.37   5.6      1 1  

    Trying to look at the heavier lift. Case can be made for either year based on different stats, but I go to a couple things.

    • The defending SB Champs added talent... Cook at WR and Gilmore at CB.
    • Since Week 4 the Pats have the #1 D in the league.
    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Suggestion to the Mods:  put on an autocorrect that whenever the name Hogan is typed, it autocorrects to "CumsinPOGmouth"...or something.

    You do it with Teddy Twatwater...and a few others. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Suggestion to the Mods:  put on an autocorrect that whenever the name Hogan is typed, it autocorrects to "CumsinPOGmouth"...or something.

    You do it with Teddy Twatwater...and a few others. 

    What is the story behind the autocorrect of a certain Vikings QB?

    The GipperT Tour2maT 2 Replies
  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @the-gipper said:

    Suggestion to the Mods:  put on an autocorrect that whenever the name Hogan is typed, it autocorrects to "CumsinPOGmouth"...or something.

    You do it with Teddy Twatwater...and a few others. 

    What is the story behind the autocorrect of a certain Vikings QB?

    @dutch-oven said:

    What is the story behind the autocorrect of a certain Vikings QB?

    He acted like a Twat, ergo, he became a Twat.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @the-gipper said:

    Suggestion to the Mods:  put on an autocorrect that whenever the name Hogan is typed, it autocorrects to "CumsinPOGmouth"...or something.

    You do it with Teddy Twatwater...and a few others. 

    What is the story behind the autocorrect of a certain Vikings QB?

    @dutch-oven said:

    What is the story behind the autocorrect of a certain Vikings QB?

    IIRC it was after his Mama said she did not want her son to play for the Browns.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @dutch-oven said:

    What is the story behind the autocorrect of a certain Vikings QB?

    IIRC it was after his Mama said she did not want her son to play for the Browns.

    @tour2ma said:

    IIRC it was after his Mama said she did not want her son to play for the Browns.

    And after he dressed in drag.   He had a real Norman Bates thing going on there.

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