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  • I cant endorse Barkley anywhere in the first when I see Sony Michel possibly being as good and available top second. 

    I think Saquon tumbles a bit. Especially when pro scouts start to watch his tape. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    I cant endorse Barkley anywhere in the first when I see Sony Michel possibly being as good and available top second. 

    I think Saquon tumbles a bit. Especially when pro scouts start to watch his tape. 

    There are so many quality RBs in this draft.

    What most people don't realize is Duke Johnson will be entering the last year of his rookie contract.

    Take 2 RBs this draft. I really like Michel, I also really like Ronald Jones of USC.

  • Overview

    Barkley has gained notoriety for not only his work on the field, but his relentless work ethic in the weight room and in practice makes his great-uncle, former boxing champion Iran Barkley, proud. Barkley was a four-star recruit and all-state pick (1,856 yards, 31 total TD as a senior) and 100-meter state champion from Pennsylvania (though born in the Bronx). In his first year with the Nittany Lions, all Barkley did was set a school record for freshmen with 1,076 yards (on 182 carries, with seven scores; 20 receptions, 161 yards, TD receiving) and earn Freshman All-American and second-team All-Big Ten honors. He started six of 11 games played, missing two with an ankle injury, with one of his best accomplishments being that he ran for 195 yards and two scores against Ohio State on the road. Barkley really excelled as a sophomore, garnering third-team Associated Press All-American accolades and being named the Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year after running for 1,496 yards and 18 touchdowns (tied for sixth in the FBS) on 272 carries (ninth). He finished off the year with 204 yards and two scores on 25 carries against USC in the Rose Bowl, showing off his elite speed and cutting ability, as well as receiving ability and willingness to participate in pass protection.

    Analysis

    Strengths

    Compact frame carries muscular, powerful trunk. High tempo runner with urgent underpinnings as his core. Offensive lineman's best friend with talent to dismiss penetration with deft footwork. Runs with optimal pad level. Elite wiggle triggered by fluid hips. Knee bend and quick-twitch powers sudden stops paired with aggressive jump cuts and spin moves to leave tacklers hanging. Can alter the course of the run whenever he wants. Presses line of scrimmage to give himself ample time to make his reads. Vision is solid. Keeps eyes darting when navigating interior running lanes. Exploits voided cutback lanes. Lateral burst and agility are top-notch. Has plant-and-go burst to rocket around the corner when needed. Good feel for managing distance between himself and defenders once he finds an opening. Feet are in constant motion and he rarely gears down to change direction in open field. Capable pass catcher. Effective separator in his routes. Beats up linebackers on wheel routes. Very tough and very competitive. Added two kick returns for touchdowns this year and will do what he must to help his team win. Football character and personal character are impeccable.

    Weaknesses

    More elusive than he is powerful.

    I can live with that. 

    Has modest broken tackle numbers during his career at Penn State.

    Modest broken tackles, okay, but what is the number of players left eating turf that didn't get a hand on him?

    Plays with inconsistent leg drive through contact when working between the tackles.

    Not something I've noticed but I'll look into it.

    Will need to develop a more north/south mindset as a pro. 

    Totally a matter of opinion. Not a weakness.

    Doesn't always trust his run crease and will look to find side doors to bounce out of.

    Sometimes those creases are traps, intuition is a beautiful thing, gotta go with the gut sometimes.

    Gets too cute with stutter-steps and jukes on first level allowing help to flow to the ball.

    ...grasping at straws...

    Needs a little earlier commitment on stretch plays and sweeps rather than going through extended probing.

    Slightly nitpicking...

    Has bouts with focus drops as pass catcher and his catch radius is limited.

    Limited- LOL! Duke Johnson is "limited". Limited doesn't even belong on the same page as Saquon. Dude has UNLIMITED potential. I've never seen a better runner. 

    Inconsistent at take-on blocks in pass protection.

    He's no slouch in Pass protect, he can get better, he has gotten better and he'll do even better, you'll see. 🙂 

    It's really okay to just say that, "He doesn't really have any weaknesses". 😛

    Draft Projection

    Round 1 (top 5) (#1 Prospect)

    NFL Comparison

    Barry Sanders

    Bottom Line.

    Every-down running back with the ability to alter the course of an offense and become a face of the franchise-type player. Barkley has the rare ability to create additional yardage through elusiveness, speed, vision and feel for space in the open field. While he has been tasked with carrying a heavy load at Penn State, their decision to limit his carries somewhat this season could help Barkley headed into his rookie season. Barkley is a buffet runner who thrives with the more plates you give him and he has a chance to become an early All-Pro no matter what team takes him.

  • So when does Mary Poppins get her first start for us Po?😛

  • If the Browns do not draft Barkley #1 #1 they will have another mistake (WENZ and TRUBISKY) rubbed in their face.

  • If the Browns do not draft Barkley #1 #1 they will have another mistake (WENZ and TRUBISKY) rubbed in their face.

    @ghoolie said:

    If the Browns do not draft Barkley #1 #1 they will have another mistake (WENZ and TRUBISKY) rubbed in their face.

    Unless he's another Jim Brown, passing on Barkley @ #1 is no big deal. I didn't see NFL.com rate him 9.0 "once in a lifetime player" either. It depends how the picks the Browns use in the first round turn out too. 

  • If the Browns do not draft Barkley #1 #1 they will have another mistake (WENZ and TRUBISKY) rubbed in their face.

    @ghoolie said:

    If the Browns do not draft Barkley #1 #1 they will have another mistake (WENZ and TRUBISKY) rubbed in their face.

    You've said this numerous times.

    I think you have Tourette's.

  • @ghoolie said:

    If the Browns do not draft Barkley #1 #1 they will have another mistake (WENZ and TRUBISKY) rubbed in their face.

    You've said this numerous times.

    I think you have Tourette's.

    @dutch-oven said:

    You've said this numerous times.

    I think you have Tourette's.

    Possibly...  More likely he's just an attention whore who spends a lot of time on a football message board for someone who hates the sport and has said many times that he hates this team.    But thank god the king of hind sight is here.

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  • @mark-o said:

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    You guys are the ones that continually posting ridiculous stuff on a thread of a runningback that you don't want us to get... hmmm... not creepy at all...

  • Saquon Barkley is the LeBron James of football. 

  • There's little doubt in my mind that PoG rubs the lotion on the skin while gazing longingly at Saquon Barkley posters.

  • Barkley was clocked during a game at about 22.9 MPH... that's with gear on, that's insane!

    EVENT

    RECORD

    ATHLETE

    MPH

    60 m (indoor) 6.39 s Maurice Green 21.00
    100 m 9.58 s Usain Bolt

    23.35

  • There's little doubt in my mind that PoG rubs the lotion on the skin while gazing longingly at Saquon Barkley posters.

    @dutch-oven said:

    There's little doubt in my mind that PoG rubs the lotion on the skin while gazing longingly at Saquon Barkley posters.

    Has he replaced his Hogan posters? 

  • Oh Man! I was just thinking... Who would win in a race- Gordon or Barkley? 

    HAHA! We bouts ta have da JUICE!!!

  • @dutch-oven said:

    There's little doubt in my mind that PoG rubs the lotion on the skin while gazing longingly at Saquon Barkley posters.

    Has he replaced his Hogan posters? 

    @mark-o said:

    Has he replaced his Hogan posters? 

    They've been "soiled" beyond recognition, sadly enough.

  • If the Browns do not draft Barkley #1 #1 they will have another mistake (WENZ and TRUBISKY) rubbed in their face.

    @ghoolie said:

    If the Browns do not draft Barkley #1 #1 they will have another mistake (WENZ and TRUBISKY) rubbed in their face.

    WENZ is spelled WENTZ, and since apparently you were the first person in the world to know about him you should know that. And Trubisky doesn't belong in the same sentence as Wentz. 4-8 record, 7 TD 7 INT isn't very good. Deshaun Watson, who you were WRONG on was MUCH better as a rookie. And that was getting hurt half way through. BOY  o boy,  2 QB missed in a row, you must be down to 99% in your mind

    God Bless 

  • Overview

    Barkley has gained notoriety for not only his work on the field, but his relentless work ethic in the weight room and in practice makes his great-uncle, former boxing champion Iran Barkley, proud. Barkley was a four-star recruit and all-state pick (1,856 yards, 31 total TD as a senior) and 100-meter state champion from Pennsylvania (though born in the Bronx). In his first year with the Nittany Lions, all Barkley did was set a school record for freshmen with 1,076 yards (on 182 carries, with seven scores; 20 receptions, 161 yards, TD receiving) and earn Freshman All-American and second-team All-Big Ten honors. He started six of 11 games played, missing two with an ankle injury, with one of his best accomplishments being that he ran for 195 yards and two scores against Ohio State on the road. Barkley really excelled as a sophomore, garnering third-team Associated Press All-American accolades and being named the Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year after running for 1,496 yards and 18 touchdowns (tied for sixth in the FBS) on 272 carries (ninth). He finished off the year with 204 yards and two scores on 25 carries against USC in the Rose Bowl, showing off his elite speed and cutting ability, as well as receiving ability and willingness to participate in pass protection.

    Analysis

    Strengths

    Compact frame carries muscular, powerful trunk. High tempo runner with urgent underpinnings as his core. Offensive lineman's best friend with talent to dismiss penetration with deft footwork. Runs with optimal pad level. Elite wiggle triggered by fluid hips. Knee bend and quick-twitch powers sudden stops paired with aggressive jump cuts and spin moves to leave tacklers hanging. Can alter the course of the run whenever he wants. Presses line of scrimmage to give himself ample time to make his reads. Vision is solid. Keeps eyes darting when navigating interior running lanes. Exploits voided cutback lanes. Lateral burst and agility are top-notch. Has plant-and-go burst to rocket around the corner when needed. Good feel for managing distance between himself and defenders once he finds an opening. Feet are in constant motion and he rarely gears down to change direction in open field. Capable pass catcher. Effective separator in his routes. Beats up linebackers on wheel routes. Very tough and very competitive. Added two kick returns for touchdowns this year and will do what he must to help his team win. Football character and personal character are impeccable.

    Weaknesses

    More elusive than he is powerful.

    I can live with that. 

    Has modest broken tackle numbers during his career at Penn State.

    Modest broken tackles, okay, but what is the number of players left eating turf that didn't get a hand on him?

    Plays with inconsistent leg drive through contact when working between the tackles.

    Not something I've noticed but I'll look into it.

    Will need to develop a more north/south mindset as a pro. 

    Totally a matter of opinion. Not a weakness.

    Doesn't always trust his run crease and will look to find side doors to bounce out of.

    Sometimes those creases are traps, intuition is a beautiful thing, gotta go with the gut sometimes.

    Gets too cute with stutter-steps and jukes on first level allowing help to flow to the ball.

    ...grasping at straws...

    Needs a little earlier commitment on stretch plays and sweeps rather than going through extended probing.

    Slightly nitpicking...

    Has bouts with focus drops as pass catcher and his catch radius is limited.

    Limited- LOL! Duke Johnson is "limited". Limited doesn't even belong on the same page as Saquon. Dude has UNLIMITED potential. I've never seen a better runner. 

    Inconsistent at take-on blocks in pass protection.

    He's no slouch in Pass protect, he can get better, he has gotten better and he'll do even better, you'll see. 🙂 

    It's really okay to just say that, "He doesn't really have any weaknesses". 😛

    Draft Projection

    Round 1 (top 5) (#1 Prospect)

    NFL Comparison

    Barry Sanders

    Bottom Line.

    Every-down running back with the ability to alter the course of an offense and become a face of the franchise-type player. Barkley has the rare ability to create additional yardage through elusiveness, speed, vision and feel for space in the open field. While he has been tasked with carrying a heavy load at Penn State, their decision to limit his carries somewhat this season could help Barkley headed into his rookie season. Barkley is a buffet runner who thrives with the more plates you give him and he has a chance to become an early All-Pro no matter what team takes him.

    @poeticg said:

    Overview

    Barkley has gained notoriety for not only his work on the field, but his relentless work ethic in the weight room and in practice makes his great-uncle, former boxing champion Iran Barkley, proud. Barkley was a four-star recruit and all-state pick (1,856 yards, 31 total TD as a senior) and 100-meter state champion from Pennsylvania (though born in the Bronx). In his first year with the Nittany Lions, all Barkley did was set a school record for freshmen with 1,076 yards (on 182 carries, with seven scores; 20 receptions, 161 yards, TD receiving) and earn Freshman All-American and second-team All-Big Ten honors. He started six of 11 games played, missing two with an ankle injury, with one of his best accomplishments being that he ran for 195 yards and two scores against Ohio State on the road. Barkley really excelled as a sophomore, garnering third-team Associated Press All-American accolades and being named the Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year after running for 1,496 yards and 18 touchdowns (tied for sixth in the FBS) on 272 carries (ninth). He finished off the year with 204 yards and two scores on 25 carries against USC in the Rose Bowl, showing off his elite speed and cutting ability, as well as receiving ability and willingness to participate in pass protection.

    Analysis

    Strengths

    Compact frame carries muscular, powerful trunk. High tempo runner with urgent underpinnings as his core. Offensive lineman's best friend with talent to dismiss penetration with deft footwork. Runs with optimal pad level. Elite wiggle triggered by fluid hips. Knee bend and quick-twitch powers sudden stops paired with aggressive jump cuts and spin moves to leave tacklers hanging. Can alter the course of the run whenever he wants. Presses line of scrimmage to give himself ample time to make his reads. Vision is solid. Keeps eyes darting when navigating interior running lanes. Exploits voided cutback lanes. Lateral burst and agility are top-notch. Has plant-and-go burst to rocket around the corner when needed. Good feel for managing distance between himself and defenders once he finds an opening. Feet are in constant motion and he rarely gears down to change direction in open field. Capable pass catcher. Effective separator in his routes. Beats up linebackers on wheel routes. Very tough and very competitive. Added two kick returns for touchdowns this year and will do what he must to help his team win. Football character and personal character are impeccable.

    Weaknesses

    More elusive than he is powerful.

    I can live with that. 

    Has modest broken tackle numbers during his career at Penn State.

    Modest broken tackles, okay, but what is the number of players left eating turf that didn't get a hand on him?

    Plays with inconsistent leg drive through contact when working between the tackles.

    Not something I've noticed but I'll look into it.

    Will need to develop a more north/south mindset as a pro. 

    Totally a matter of opinion. Not a weakness.

    Doesn't always trust his run crease and will look to find side doors to bounce out of.

    Sometimes those creases are traps, intuition is a beautiful thing, gotta go with the gut sometimes.

    Gets too cute with stutter-steps and jukes on first level allowing help to flow to the ball.

    ...grasping at straws...

    Needs a little earlier commitment on stretch plays and sweeps rather than going through extended probing.

    Slightly nitpicking...

    Has bouts with focus drops as pass catcher and his catch radius is limited.

    Limited- LOL! Duke Johnson is "limited". Limited doesn't even belong on the same page as Saquon. Dude has UNLIMITED potential. I've never seen a better runner. 

    Inconsistent at take-on blocks in pass protection.

    He's no slouch in Pass protect, he can get better, he has gotten better and he'll do even better, you'll see. 🙂 

    It's really okay to just say that, "He doesn't really have any weaknesses". 😛

    Draft Projection

    Round 1 (top 5) (#1 Prospect)

    NFL Comparison

    Barry Sanders

    Bottom Line.

    Every-down running back with the ability to alter the course of an offense and become a face of the franchise-type player. Barkley has the rare ability to create additional yardage through elusiveness, speed, vision and feel for space in the open field. While he has been tasked with carrying a heavy load at Penn State, their decision to limit his carries somewhat this season could help Barkley headed into his rookie season. Barkley is a buffet runner who thrives with the more plates you give him and he has a chance to become an early All-Pro no matter what team takes him.

    You are so set on this guy, that you must not even read what is written that you quote. They said his CATCH RADIUS was limited, and you say he has unlimited potential and never seen a better runner. NEITHER has anything to do with CATCH RADIUS. Or do you want to admit you don't know what that means

  • @poeticg said:

    Overview

    Barkley has gained notoriety for not only his work on the field, but his relentless work ethic in the weight room and in practice makes his great-uncle, former boxing champion Iran Barkley, proud. Barkley was a four-star recruit and all-state pick (1,856 yards, 31 total TD as a senior) and 100-meter state champion from Pennsylvania (though born in the Bronx). In his first year with the Nittany Lions, all Barkley did was set a school record for freshmen with 1,076 yards (on 182 carries, with seven scores; 20 receptions, 161 yards, TD receiving) and earn Freshman All-American and second-team All-Big Ten honors. He started six of 11 games played, missing two with an ankle injury, with one of his best accomplishments being that he ran for 195 yards and two scores against Ohio State on the road. Barkley really excelled as a sophomore, garnering third-team Associated Press All-American accolades and being named the Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year after running for 1,496 yards and 18 touchdowns (tied for sixth in the FBS) on 272 carries (ninth). He finished off the year with 204 yards and two scores on 25 carries against USC in the Rose Bowl, showing off his elite speed and cutting ability, as well as receiving ability and willingness to participate in pass protection.

    Analysis

    Strengths

    Compact frame carries muscular, powerful trunk. High tempo runner with urgent underpinnings as his core. Offensive lineman's best friend with talent to dismiss penetration with deft footwork. Runs with optimal pad level. Elite wiggle triggered by fluid hips. Knee bend and quick-twitch powers sudden stops paired with aggressive jump cuts and spin moves to leave tacklers hanging. Can alter the course of the run whenever he wants. Presses line of scrimmage to give himself ample time to make his reads. Vision is solid. Keeps eyes darting when navigating interior running lanes. Exploits voided cutback lanes. Lateral burst and agility are top-notch. Has plant-and-go burst to rocket around the corner when needed. Good feel for managing distance between himself and defenders once he finds an opening. Feet are in constant motion and he rarely gears down to change direction in open field. Capable pass catcher. Effective separator in his routes. Beats up linebackers on wheel routes. Very tough and very competitive. Added two kick returns for touchdowns this year and will do what he must to help his team win. Football character and personal character are impeccable.

    Weaknesses

    More elusive than he is powerful.

    I can live with that. 

    Has modest broken tackle numbers during his career at Penn State.

    Modest broken tackles, okay, but what is the number of players left eating turf that didn't get a hand on him?

    Plays with inconsistent leg drive through contact when working between the tackles.

    Not something I've noticed but I'll look into it.

    Will need to develop a more north/south mindset as a pro. 

    Totally a matter of opinion. Not a weakness.

    Doesn't always trust his run crease and will look to find side doors to bounce out of.

    Sometimes those creases are traps, intuition is a beautiful thing, gotta go with the gut sometimes.

    Gets too cute with stutter-steps and jukes on first level allowing help to flow to the ball.

    ...grasping at straws...

    Needs a little earlier commitment on stretch plays and sweeps rather than going through extended probing.

    Slightly nitpicking...

    Has bouts with focus drops as pass catcher and his catch radius is limited.

    Limited- LOL! Duke Johnson is "limited". Limited doesn't even belong on the same page as Saquon. Dude has UNLIMITED potential. I've never seen a better runner. 

    Inconsistent at take-on blocks in pass protection.

    He's no slouch in Pass protect, he can get better, he has gotten better and he'll do even better, you'll see. 🙂 

    It's really okay to just say that, "He doesn't really have any weaknesses". 😛

    Draft Projection

    Round 1 (top 5) (#1 Prospect)

    NFL Comparison

    Barry Sanders

    Bottom Line.

    Every-down running back with the ability to alter the course of an offense and become a face of the franchise-type player. Barkley has the rare ability to create additional yardage through elusiveness, speed, vision and feel for space in the open field. While he has been tasked with carrying a heavy load at Penn State, their decision to limit his carries somewhat this season could help Barkley headed into his rookie season. Barkley is a buffet runner who thrives with the more plates you give him and he has a chance to become an early All-Pro no matter what team takes him.

    You are so set on this guy, that you must not even read what is written that you quote. They said his CATCH RADIUS was limited, and you say he has unlimited potential and never seen a better runner. NEITHER has anything to do with CATCH RADIUS. Or do you want to admit you don't know what that means

    @gunz41 said:

    You are so set on this guy, that you must not even read what is written that you quote. They said his CATCH RADIUS was limited, and you say he has unlimited potential and never seen a better runner. NEITHER has anything to do with CATCH RADIUS. Or do you want to admit you don't know what that means

    I know exactly what was meant, and it makes no sense. Maybe you don't know what it is? 

    How can he be quick-twitch, super agile, amazing leaping ability, stop and go on a dime and in any stretch of the imagination have a "limited" catch radius? He's a six foot tall runningback, Duke Johnson is 5'7 on a good day. I said what I meant and I meant what I said... Good enough for you? 😉

  • @gunz41 said:

    You are so set on this guy, that you must not even read what is written that you quote. They said his CATCH RADIUS was limited, and you say he has unlimited potential and never seen a better runner. NEITHER has anything to do with CATCH RADIUS. Or do you want to admit you don't know what that means

    I know exactly what was meant, and it makes no sense. Maybe you don't know what it is? 

    How can he be quick-twitch, super agile, amazing leaping ability, stop and go on a dime and in any stretch of the imagination have a "limited" catch radius? He's a six foot tall runningback, Duke Johnson is 5'7 on a good day. I said what I meant and I meant what I said... Good enough for you? 😉

    @poeticg said:

    I know exactly what was meant, and it makes no sense. Maybe you don't know what it is? 

    How can he be quick-twitch, super agile, amazing leaping ability, stop and go on a dime and in any stretch of the imagination have a "limited" catch radius? He's a six foot tall runningback, Duke Johnson is 5'7 on a good day. I said what I meant and I meant what I said... Good enough for you? 😉

    If you want to look like you haven't a clue, fine by me. 

    And I love how you have said it before, and now this quote you had said his comparison was Barry Sanders. Well one, there will only ever be 1 Barry, but you know who recently was compared to Barry Sanders. Ameer Abdullah. 

    You are still not understanding why people are getting on you for this. Nobody is saying Barkley isn't good, talented, be a bust, etc. But he hasn't taken a SNAP in the NFL and you are calling him a generational player and better than top NFL players.

    You know who that sounds like????? LAVAR BALL.... That's it, you are the Lavar Ball here