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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    How about this:   Go for  a combination of Chubb/Fitzpatrick/Barkley/Derwin James 

    ...and leave the QB position for round 2...and pick up Mason Rudolph? 

    I mean...this draft could end up being like 2012....when it was not really the top 5 QBs who came out best that year...but the next 3:

    1 Indianapolis Colts Andrew Luck † QB Stanford Pac-12  
      1 2 Washington Redskins Robert Griffin III † QB Baylor Big 12 from St. Louis [R1 - 1];
    2011 Heisman Trophy winner [N 2]
      1 8 Miami Dolphins Ryan Tannehill  QB Texas A&M Big 12  
      1 22 Cleveland Browns Brandon Weeden  QB Oklahoma State Big 12 from Atlanta [R1 - 12]
      2 57 Denver Broncos Brock Osweiler  QB Arizona State Pac-12  
      3 75 Seattle Seahawks Russell Wilson † QB Wisconsin Big Ten  
      3 88 Philadelphia Eagles Nick Foles † QB Arizona Pac-12 from Houston [R3 - 10]
      4 102

    Washington Redskins

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    		Kirk Cousins † QB Michigan State Big Ten
    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #21

    @the-gipper said:

    How about this:   Go for  a combination of Chubb/Fitzpatrick/Barkley/Derwin James 

    ...and leave the QB position for round 2...and pick up Mason Rudolph? 

    I mean...this draft could end up being like 2012....when it was not really the top 5 QBs who came out best that year...but the next 3:

    1 Indianapolis Colts Andrew Luck † QB Stanford Pac-12  
      1 2 Washington Redskins Robert Griffin III † QB Baylor Big 12 from St. Louis [R1 - 1];
    2011 Heisman Trophy winner [N 2]
      1 8 Miami Dolphins Ryan Tannehill  QB Texas A&M Big 12  
      1 22 Cleveland Browns Brandon Weeden  QB Oklahoma State Big 12 from Atlanta [R1 - 12]
      2 57 Denver Broncos Brock Osweiler  QB Arizona State Pac-12  
      3 75 Seattle Seahawks Russell Wilson † QB Wisconsin Big Ten  
      3 88 Philadelphia Eagles Nick Foles † QB Arizona Pac-12 from Houston [R3 - 10]
      4 102

    Washington Redskins

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    		Kirk Cousins † QB Michigan State Big Ten

    Amazing how these drafts can turn out......and with the most important position on the field.

    I think this draft is loaded with "non-quarterbacks", well maybe great ones.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • Gunz41G Gunz41

    @the-gipper said:

    Or....maybe they are the ONLY ones who know their arse  from a hole in a ground.  (see my 2012 example, Rudolph, White, Falk may prove to be the best of this year, like Wilson, Cousins and Foles that year) 

    I bet you that I could come up with a better ranking than  Jeremiah, Kiper, et al.  

    How about this:  I will make you this wager.....that after 3 years  Rudolph will have proven to be the best QB of the bunch that are up this year. A bottle of your favorite $25.00 wine.   I can't afford any more...and you can still get plenty drunk on a $25  bottle.

    While I wouldn't say he is top elite as a lot do, Luck is better than Foles or Cousins when healthy. A lot better. Foles had a GREAT year and then what 3 games in playoffs (one which wasn't spectacular). But he won a Super Bowl. So if you go by success by winning, then Luck has been more successful that way than Cousins.

    Those 2 guys have 1 thing each over Luck, and 1 thing in common.

    In common- better health.

    For Foles- he has been more successful in Philly, everywhere else he is Josh McCown.

    For Cousins- he will have a bigger contract. FOR NOW

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #22

    @gunz41 said:

    While I wouldn't say he is top elite as a lot do, Luck is better than Foles or Cousins when healthy. A lot better. Foles had a GREAT year and then what 3 games in playoffs (one which wasn't spectacular). But he won a Super Bowl. So if you go by success by winning, then Luck has been more successful that way than Cousins.

    Those 2 guys have 1 thing each over Luck, and 1 thing in common.

    In common- better health.

    For Foles- he has been more successful in Philly, everywhere else he is Josh McCown.

    For Cousins- he will have a bigger contract. FOR NOW

    Luck, yes, no one would argue that......but the next 4?   including RGIII and Weeden and Osweiler etc.   Foles/Cousins/Wilson followed all those guys.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @gunz41 said:

    While I wouldn't say he is top elite as a lot do, Luck is better than Foles or Cousins when healthy. A lot better. Foles had a GREAT year and then what 3 games in playoffs (one which wasn't spectacular). But he won a Super Bowl. So if you go by success by winning, then Luck has been more successful that way than Cousins.

    Those 2 guys have 1 thing each over Luck, and 1 thing in common.

    In common- better health.

    For Foles- he has been more successful in Philly, everywhere else he is Josh McCown.

    For Cousins- he will have a bigger contract. FOR NOW

    Luck, yes, no one would argue that......but the next 4?   including RGIII and Weeden and Osweiler etc.   Foles/Cousins/Wilson followed all those guys.

    Gunz41G Gunz41 wrote on
    #23

    @the-gipper said:

    Luck, yes, no one would argue that......but the next 4?   including RGIII and Weeden and Osweiler etc.   Foles/Cousins/Wilson followed all those guys.

    Can't argue there, but the point was you said the best over the top guys, minus Luck yes.

  • Gunz41G Gunz41

    @the-gipper said:

    Luck, yes, no one would argue that......but the next 4?   including RGIII and Weeden and Osweiler etc.   Foles/Cousins/Wilson followed all those guys.

    Can't argue there, but the point was you said the best over the top guys, minus Luck yes.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #24

    @gunz41 said:

    Can't argue there, but the point was you said the best over the top guys, minus Luck yes.

    Well...apparently there is a fag on this board that says that even Luck should not be included as an exception. 

    But, we do know just a few things:

    The 6th and 7th QBs picked in that draft are the ones to now have started and won a Super Bowl Game.  And the 8th QB taken is set to becme the highest player ever in NFL history, apparently.

    So...maybe the actual best QBs that will come out of this 2018 class could turn out to be Rudolph, White, Lauletta etc.

    DieHardBrownsFanD 1 Reply
  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #25

    Well with Kizer gone the BROWNS are officially in line for a backup QB.

    SO #1 is ? #4 is ?

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @gunz41 said:

    Can't argue there, but the point was you said the best over the top guys, minus Luck yes.

    Well...apparently there is a fag on this board that says that even Luck should not be included as an exception. 

    But, we do know just a few things:

    The 6th and 7th QBs picked in that draft are the ones to now have started and won a Super Bowl Game.  And the 8th QB taken is set to becme the highest player ever in NFL history, apparently.

    So...maybe the actual best QBs that will come out of this 2018 class could turn out to be Rudolph, White, Lauletta etc.

    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on
    #26

    @the-gipper said:

    Well...apparently there is a fag on this board that says that even Luck should not be included as an exception. 

    But, we do know just a few things:

    The 6th and 7th QBs picked in that draft are the ones to now have started and won a Super Bowl Game.  And the 8th QB taken is set to becme the highest player ever in NFL history, apparently.

    So...maybe the actual best QBs that will come out of this 2018 class could turn out to be Rudolph, White, Lauletta etc.

    And sometimes Tsunami's develop from earthquakes located in the ocean.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #27

    Fu ck Barkley. Running back is not our big position of need. 

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @the-gipper said:

    Well...apparently there is a fag on this board that says that even Luck should not be included as an exception. 

    But, we do know just a few things:

    The 6th and 7th QBs picked in that draft are the ones to now have started and won a Super Bowl Game.  And the 8th QB taken is set to becme the highest player ever in NFL history, apparently.

    So...maybe the actual best QBs that will come out of this 2018 class could turn out to be Rudolph, White, Lauletta etc.

    And sometimes Tsunami's develop from earthquakes located in the ocean.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #28

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    And sometimes Tsunami's develop from earthquakes located in the ocean.

    That is actually usually the cause....probably 99%.   The only alternative causes that I know of would be an asteroid landing in the ocean......or a volcanic eruption that results in a landslide into the ocean.

    I mean....let's face it....in how many years has it been that it is NOT the first QB taken that ends up being the best of his draft class? I would say well over 50% of the time.

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