2018 NFL DRAFT - FIRST ROUND QUARTERBACK SCORECARD - Winners and losers (?)
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2018 NFL DRAFT - FIRST ROUND QUARTERBACK SCORECARD - Winners and losers (?)
After a quite spirited 2018 NFL Draft season a look back on the R1 quarterback derby, for all 32 picks see the link. I can not really see any big losers in all of R1 just some happy and very happy guys.
PICK TEAM PLAYER TOTAL CONTRACT SIGNING BONUS
1 Browns Baker Mayfield $33,158,294 $22,185,523
3 Jets Sam Darnold $30,685,571 $20,387,178
7 Bills Josh Allen $21,481,462 $13,693,282
10 Cardinals Josh Rosen $17,841,032 $11,045,697
32 Ravens Lamar Jackson $9,589,930 $5,044,895You can use this list as a guide for the other R1 players and their approximate contracts and signing bonuses, a lot was at stake for these young men just starting out in their first real jobs in life.
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Just an aside and not sure we need one, but the rookie pay schedule could serve as another value chart for trading picks.
Quick glance would seem to place it between the original JJ and revamped Harvard charts.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Just an aside and not sure we need one, but the rookie pay schedule could serve as another value chart for trading picks.
Quick glance would seem to place it between the original JJ and revamped Harvard charts.
Just an aside and not sure we need one, but the rookie pay schedule could serve as another value chart for trading picks.
Quick glance would seem to place it between the original JJ and revamped Harvard charts.
Yes, especially if you are cap tight.
And maybe a bit tounge-in-cheek is a Mayfield = a Rosen + Jackson? A two-fer and maybe an additional R1 pick? Hmmmm, still bag Ward and maybe Chubb?
The fun is endless! (well maybe a bit stupid too
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2018 NFL DRAFT - FIRST ROUND QUARTERBACK SCORECARD - Winners and losers (?)
After a quite spirited 2018 NFL Draft season a look back on the R1 quarterback derby, for all 32 picks see the link. I can not really see any big losers in all of R1 just some happy and very happy guys.
PICK TEAM PLAYER TOTAL CONTRACT SIGNING BONUS
1 Browns Baker Mayfield $33,158,294 $22,185,523
3 Jets Sam Darnold $30,685,571 $20,387,178
7 Bills Josh Allen $21,481,462 $13,693,282
10 Cardinals Josh Rosen $17,841,032 $11,045,697
32 Ravens Lamar Jackson $9,589,930 $5,044,895You can use this list as a guide for the other R1 players and their approximate contracts and signing bonuses, a lot was at stake for these young men just starting out in their first real jobs in life.
2018 NFL DRAFT - FIRST ROUND QUARTERBACK SCORECARD - Winners and losers (?)
After a quite spirited 2018 NFL Draft season a look back on the R1 quarterback derby, for all 32 picks see the link. I can not really see any big losers in all of R1 just some happy and very happy guys.
PICK TEAM PLAYER TOTAL CONTRACT SIGNING BONUS
1 Browns Baker Mayfield $33,158,294 $22,185,523
3 Jets Sam Darnold $30,685,571 $20,387,178
7 Bills Josh Allen $21,481,462 $13,693,282
10 Cardinals Josh Rosen $17,841,032 $11,045,697
32 Ravens Lamar Jackson $9,589,930 $5,044,895You can use this list as a guide for the other R1 players and their approximate contracts and signing bonuses, a lot was at stake for these young men just starting out in their first real jobs in life.
Ignoring the money completely....because as fans that is what we should do, because we neither have to pay or get paid any of it......I do not see how ANYONE can claim "winners and losers" of this draft. At all.
As I said time and time again...you assess it 3-5 years down the line. There is another thread on here where I did just that. And while in some of those drafts, pundits may have declared the Browns winners.....they were pretty much losers all the way.
Weeden and Richardson....FIRST round victory? Fuhuck no
Gilbert and Manziel...first round victory?....FUYUCK no
Shelton and Erving...first round victory? Fuyuckin Fuhuck no.
Call us in 3 years.
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2018 NFL DRAFT - FIRST ROUND QUARTERBACK SCORECARD - Winners and losers (?)
After a quite spirited 2018 NFL Draft season a look back on the R1 quarterback derby, for all 32 picks see the link. I can not really see any big losers in all of R1 just some happy and very happy guys.
PICK TEAM PLAYER TOTAL CONTRACT SIGNING BONUS
1 Browns Baker Mayfield $33,158,294 $22,185,523
3 Jets Sam Darnold $30,685,571 $20,387,178
7 Bills Josh Allen $21,481,462 $13,693,282
10 Cardinals Josh Rosen $17,841,032 $11,045,697
32 Ravens Lamar Jackson $9,589,930 $5,044,895You can use this list as a guide for the other R1 players and their approximate contracts and signing bonuses, a lot was at stake for these young men just starting out in their first real jobs in life.
Ignoring the money completely....because as fans that is what we should do, because we neither have to pay or get paid any of it......I do not see how ANYONE can claim "winners and losers" of this draft. At all.
As I said time and time again...you assess it 3-5 years down the line. There is another thread on here where I did just that. And while in some of those drafts, pundits may have declared the Browns winners.....they were pretty much losers all the way.
Weeden and Richardson....FIRST round victory? Fuhuck no
Gilbert and Manziel...first round victory?....FUYUCK no
Shelton and Erving...first round victory? Fuyuckin Fuhuck no.
Call us in 3 years.
Ignoring the money completely....because as fans that is what we should do, because we neither have to pay or get paid any of it......I do not see how ANYONE can claim "winners and losers" of this draft. At all.
As I said time and time again...you assess it 3-5 years down the line. There is another thread on here where I did just that. And while in some of those drafts, pundits may have declared the Browns winners.....they were pretty much losers all the way.
I always look at the money as a guide for the relative value of the players as picked by all 32 war rooms and set by the CBA.
And yes R3 players make less than R1 players at least initially.
The final proof of everything is always in the pudding.....whether it's rice or our favorite football team.
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Ignoring the money completely....because as fans that is what we should do, because we neither have to pay or get paid any of it......I do not see how ANYONE can claim "winners and losers" of this draft. At all.
As I said time and time again...you assess it 3-5 years down the line. There is another thread on here where I did just that. And while in some of those drafts, pundits may have declared the Browns winners.....they were pretty much losers all the way.
I always look at the money as a guide for the relative value of the players as picked by all 32 war rooms and set by the CBA.
And yes R3 players make less than R1 players at least initially.
The final proof of everything is always in the pudding.....whether it's rice or our favorite football team.
I always look at the money as a guide for the relative value of the players as picked by all 32 war rooms and set by the CBA.
Value to what? Value to who? What is the effing point of that? To just see who gets paid more. That is easy.....the pay scale says #1 pick gets the most money, #2 gets second most...etc. etc. What useful information does that really give any of us? It is no predictor of how that player will ultimately play...it is just a predictor of what they will get paid. And what fan gives a cabbage fart about that?
And yes R3 players make less than R1 players at least initially.
The final proof of everything is always in the pudding.....whether it's rice or our favorite football team.
Sure...the proof is in the pudding 5 years down the line when these guys come up for their second contract....and then they can be paid according to their "value"...i.e. the quality and quantity of their on field performance. But 5 years down the line I suspect that a few of these first rounders will no longer be in the league even. E.g. according to what I find, from 2013 #9 pick Milliner, #24 Werner, and #32 Matt Elam are no longer even in the league. And from 2014..of course...the two players from that first round that are no longer in the leauge? Both Browns...Gilbert and Manziel.
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Value to what? Value to who? What is the effing point of that? To just see who gets paid more. That is easy.....the pay scale says #1 pick gets the most money, #2 gets second most...etc. etc. What useful information does that really give any of us? It is no predictor of how that player will ultimately play...it is just a predictor of what they will get paid. And what fan gives a cabbage fart about that?
Value to each other plus skill of the FO to put a team together that is built around the salary cap.
A big game of MONOPOLY only with helmets and pads.
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Value to what? Value to who? What is the effing point of that? To just see who gets paid more. That is easy.....the pay scale says #1 pick gets the most money, #2 gets second most...etc. etc. What useful information does that really give any of us? It is no predictor of how that player will ultimately play...it is just a predictor of what they will get paid. And what fan gives a cabbage fart about that?
Value to each other plus skill of the FO to put a team together that is built around the salary cap.
A big game of MONOPOLY only with helmets and pads.
Value to each other plus skill of the FO to put a team together that is built around the salary cap.
A big game of MONOPOLY only with helmets and pads.
Here is where the big fallacy here is: Right now there is NO effing value to any of this.
Tell me what "value" you could place on the Browns 2014 draft in the couple of weeks after that one happened? I am sure it would have been considered of very, very high value. A franchise QB and a shutdown corner....Browns stars of the fuyucking future, right? High value draft, right.
The biggest pile of shite draft in the history of the draft perhaps. THAT is what that drafts value was. The ONLY two members of that first round that are now out of football were taken by the Browns.
So...if you were playing Monopoly with that draft.....you are either permanently in Jail, or fuyucking Bankrupt.
So...there isn't ONE Godddamned bit of value to any of these draft picks until they start playing real games. Then we shall see.
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and yet another Gip derail attempt...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
and yet another Gip derail attempt...
I hear what Gipper is saying. It's funny money. Based on where the player was drafted. Which is educated guesses by the GM's (teams) that drafted them.
Based on the rookie contract Rosen would've been the loser. ( some thanks can go to his big mouthed ex coach )
Interesting how so much money is paid to a QB picked high in the draft....yet, the want is for him to not play in his first year...thus looking like a complete waste of money.
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The NFL Network guys Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller on "Movin' the Chains" yesterday were saying that since last fall and leading up to and including the Browns draft of him, they thought that Mayfield would be the first one to break through as a starter among all the potential QBs in this draft. And they disagreed with Jackson saying that TT is the starter before they have even had a full team practice. They think Mayfield is good enough to beat out TT for the starters role from game one.
IMO those are the two best as a team on NFL Radio. They really know their football. Well worth listening to as I go to racquetball every day.
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The NFL Network guys Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller on "Movin' the Chains" yesterday were saying that since last fall and leading up to and including the Browns draft of him, they thought that Mayfield would be the first one to break through as a starter among all the potential QBs in this draft. And they disagreed with Jackson saying that TT is the starter before they have even had a full team practice. They think Mayfield is good enough to beat out TT for the starters role from game one.
IMO those are the two best as a team on NFL Radio. They really know their football. Well worth listening to as I go to racquetball every day.
The NFL Network guys Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller on "Movin' the Chains" yesterday.
IMO those are the two best as a team on NFL Radio. They really know their football. Well worth listening to as I go to racquetball every day.
I also agreed with them that Haley is formulating your offense playbook but Hue has his choice of QB?
..Maybe not the biggest hole in the boat,thinking Mayfield will be fine in a Tyrod system with a better deep ball than Taylor..Dorsey by trade deadline will have a answer on regaining a 3rd round pick on Tyrod, reguardless of HueJax..
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The NFL Network guys Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller on "Movin' the Chains" yesterday.
IMO those are the two best as a team on NFL Radio. They really know their football. Well worth listening to as I go to racquetball every day.
I also agreed with them that Haley is formulating your offense playbook but Hue has his choice of QB?
..Maybe not the biggest hole in the boat,thinking Mayfield will be fine in a Tyrod system with a better deep ball than Taylor..Dorsey by trade deadline will have a answer on regaining a 3rd round pick on Tyrod, reguardless of HueJax..
I also agreed with them that Haley is formulating your offense playbook but Hue has his choice of QB?
..Maybe not the biggest hole in the boat,thinking Mayfield will be fine in a Tyrod system with a better deep ball than Taylor..Dorsey by trade deadline will have a answer on regaining a 3rd round pick on Tyrod, reguardless of HueJax..
I don't think we can take a chance on injury to Mayfield, so it would really surprise me if we tried to trade TT who is on a 1 year contract anyway. He is UFA in 2019.
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The NFL Network guys Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller on "Movin' the Chains" yesterday were saying that since last fall and leading up to and including the Browns draft of him, they thought that Mayfield would be the first one to break through as a starter among all the potential QBs in this draft. And they disagreed with Jackson saying that TT is the starter before they have even had a full team practice. They think Mayfield is good enough to beat out TT for the starters role from game one.
IMO those are the two best as a team on NFL Radio. They really know their football. Well worth listening to as I go to racquetball every day.
The NFL Network guys Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller on "Movin' the Chains" yesterday were saying that since last fall and leading up to and including the Browns draft of him, they thought that Mayfield would be the first one to break through as a starter among all the potential QBs in this draft. And they disagreed with Jackson saying that TT is the starter before they have even had a full team practice. They think Mayfield is good enough to beat out TT for the starters role from game one.
IMO those are the two best as a team on NFL Radio. They really know their football. Well worth listening to as I go to racquetball every day.
Aren't you getting a little long in the tooth for racquetball? "Pickleball" is taking off here in Naples. I think it is a whiffle ball and a badmitton racquet. Easier on old legs I guess.
No offense.
Zombo
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The NFL Network guys Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller on "Movin' the Chains" yesterday were saying that since last fall and leading up to and including the Browns draft of him, they thought that Mayfield would be the first one to break through as a starter among all the potential QBs in this draft. And they disagreed with Jackson saying that TT is the starter before they have even had a full team practice. They think Mayfield is good enough to beat out TT for the starters role from game one.
IMO those are the two best as a team on NFL Radio. They really know their football. Well worth listening to as I go to racquetball every day.
Aren't you getting a little long in the tooth for racquetball? "Pickleball" is taking off here in Naples. I think it is a whiffle ball and a badmitton racquet. Easier on old legs I guess.
No offense.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Aren't you getting a little long in the tooth for racquetball? "Pickleball" is taking off here in Naples. I think it is a whiffle ball and a badmitton racquet. Easier on old legs I guess.
No offense.
Zombo
As my ole granny used to say, "You're only as old as you feel." She made it to 98. I'm hoping to die from a head first dive for the ball in the front corner at 99.
Besides when I whip up on one of these 1/3 my age whippersnappers I just tell them, "Old age experience and guile wins in the end."
Of course it also helps to have 40+ years to develop the perfect wraparound rollout shot to either corner from any spot on the court. LOL!
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and yet another Gip derail attempt...
And why would you want everyone to be tunnel visioned in the conversations that take place on here.
Any time I don't stick to what you think should be the dogma that must be followed in these conversations you whine whine about it like a little bitch...like you did here.
Maybe you should take another board hiatus if you can't handle the emotional or intellectual demands of a fluid conversation; if you can't take it that there is some contrary discourse that occurs. You need to find a safe place that won't upset you. Maybe a place that talks about how cute kittens are.
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The NFL Network guys Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller on "Movin' the Chains" yesterday were saying that since last fall and leading up to and including the Browns draft of him, they thought that Mayfield would be the first one to break through as a starter among all the potential QBs in this draft. And they disagreed with Jackson saying that TT is the starter before they have even had a full team practice. They think Mayfield is good enough to beat out TT for the starters role from game one.
IMO those are the two best as a team on NFL Radio. They really know their football. Well worth listening to as I go to racquetball every day.
they disagreed with Jackson saying that TT is the starter before they have even had a full team practice.
Well, I disagree with 'they'.
I think that Hue did the right thing be saying, before & after the draft, that TieRod was the starter. 1) He's been in the league and has BEEN a starter. He was brought here to be the starter and he took the Bills to the playoffs last year. 2) It alerts the draft pick (turned out to be Baker) that he's not going to be handed the starting role. - (I don't always side with Hue)
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https://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-team-by-team-depth-charts-2018-nfl-draft/dqwmovshyin1szrr3sfoyns5 more reasons to never trust your weatherman
..seem to be a fair QB ranking? or do they like the O weapons that Hue seems to have popping out his eyeballs now?
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