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Clay Matthews & Doug Dieken H.O.F. worthy?

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  • @nickers said:

    Clay yes.. Diek.. not so much

    Ditto...

    Put Jerry Sherk on the "Deserving" list.

    @tour2ma said:

    Ditto...

    Put Jerry Sherk on the "Deserving" list.

    Walter Johnson was pretty badass also.. Hell... that whole unit was a surly lot...A Dline of Sherk,Johnson,Jones .. I know I'm forgetting somebody...Alzado ....Dayum.. That wasnt a bad haul on defense...

  • @tour2ma said:

    Ditto...

    Put Jerry Sherk on the "Deserving" list.

    Walter Johnson was pretty badass also.. Hell... that whole unit was a surly lot...A Dline of Sherk,Johnson,Jones .. I know I'm forgetting somebody...Alzado ....Dayum.. That wasnt a bad haul on defense...

    @nickers said:

    Walter Johnson was pretty badass also.. Hell... that whole unit was a surly lot...A Dline of Sherk,Johnson,Jones .. I know I'm forgetting somebody...Alzado ....Dayum.. That wasnt a bad haul on defense...

    Lots of different guys tried at DE, but we were always solid in the middle with Johnson and Sherk.

    Should held on to Jack Gregory, he was a good one.

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  • @nickers said:

    Walter Johnson was pretty badass also.. Hell... that whole unit was a surly lot...A Dline of Sherk,Johnson,Jones .. I know I'm forgetting somebody...Alzado ....Dayum.. That wasnt a bad haul on defense...

    Lots of different guys tried at DE, but we were always solid in the middle with Johnson and Sherk.

    Should held on to Jack Gregory, he was a good one.

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    Zombo said:

    Lots of different guys tried at DE, but we were always solid in the middle with Johnson and Sherk.

    Should held on to Jack Gregory, he was a good one.

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    If My memory serves right.. Jack Gregory became part of Mia (Shula's) No name defense...

  • Zombo said:

    Lots of different guys tried at DE, but we were always solid in the middle with Johnson and Sherk.

    Should held on to Jack Gregory, he was a good one.

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    If My memory serves right.. Jack Gregory became part of Mia (Shula's) No name defense...

    @nickers said:

    If My memory serves right.. Jack Gregory became part of Mia (Shula's) No name defense...

    No he had a long career with the Giants. Came back to the Browns for one season at the end of career.

    There was a former Brown that played for that Dolphin defense ... Matheson?

    Z

  • @nickers said:

    If My memory serves right.. Jack Gregory became part of Mia (Shula's) No name defense...

    No he had a long career with the Giants. Came back to the Browns for one season at the end of career.

    There was a former Brown that played for that Dolphin defense ... Matheson?

    Z

    Zombo said:

    No he had a long career with the Giants. Came back to the Browns for one season at the end of career.

    There was a former Brown that played for that Dolphin defense ... Matheson?

    Z

    Yup Matheson was it.. I think he was part of the Warfield trade to haul in Phipps..

  • @nickers said:

    If My memory serves right.. Jack Gregory became part of Mia (Shula's) No name defense...

    No he had a long career with the Giants. Came back to the Browns for one season at the end of career.

    There was a former Brown that played for that Dolphin defense ... Matheson?

    Z

    Zombo said:

    No he had a long career with the Giants. Came back to the Browns for one season at the end of career.

    There was a former Brown that played for that Dolphin defense ... Matheson?

    Z

    The 53 defense which I believe Miami ran was name after Matheson's number.  Here is a blurb on it:

    Several teams adopted the “53 defense” that the perennial champion  Miami Dolphins instituted part time which saw DT Bill Heinz replaced with LB Bob Matheson, who wore #53, and could rush the passer as well as drop back into coverage. This change from 3 linebackers to 4 linebackers clogged the underneath passing routes.  Many teams that were desperate for a winner went for this new tactical defensive adaptation of the old’50’s  “Oklahoma” Bud Wilkinson defense full time.  The 3-4 was just the old “Wilkinson 5-2” which had the two ends take their hand off the ground and become trackers.