Shermer or hue?
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Shurmur seems like one of many that fall into the better Coordinator than Head Coach category.
Here's some other examples: Norv Turner, Lindy Infante, Wade Phillips, Gregg Williams, Todd Haley, Bud Carson, Buddy Ryan, Rex Ryan, Romeo Crennel, Marty Mornhinweg, Josh Daniels, Ken Whisenhunt, Mike McCoy, Chuck Pagano, Rob Chudzinski
Yep they need a special school to train HC's on the art of clock and TO management. And another just for redzone play design and calling. Haley & Heuy should be in that second school together right now.
Yep they need a special school to train HC's on the art of clock and TO management. And another just for redzone play design and calling. Haley & Heuy should be in that second school together right now.
Hue was 12-4 the last time his job title was OC while Haley was 13-3.
Maybe they just need the same surrounding talent and experience volume on-board to get to that point here? When you go from working with a lot of talent to some of the bare cupboard many of our HCs and Coordinators have walked into here - we need to stop thinking like Cleveland's version of Legally Blind (Mary Kay Cabot) or the male version (Tony Grossi). There's a culture shock learning curve Hue drastically underrated here that I think we're coming out of pretty well in 2018 with one of the youngest rosters in the league. If you choose to stay stranded in 0-16, you're choosing to miss the fun and excitement of 2018.
All that said, I bought myself a brand new village idiot Aggies in case all that disappears on me...
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Shurmur's wheels are already coming off.
The Giants aren't a franchise who generally makes rash decisions, but with the OBJ nonsense and him turning every press conference into a dumpster fire, they might dump him after one season.
Shurmur's wheels are already coming off.
The Giants aren't a franchise who generally makes rash decisions, but with the OBJ nonsense and him turning every press conference into a dumpster fire, they might dump him after one season.
Murmer looks like he never had any wheels.... The poor guy is just cursed.
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Yep they need a special school to train HC's on the art of clock and TO management. And another just for redzone play design and calling. Haley & Heuy should be in that second school together right now.
Hue was 12-4 the last time his job title was OC while Haley was 13-3.
Maybe they just need the same surrounding talent and experience volume on-board to get to that point here? When you go from working with a lot of talent to some of the bare cupboard many of our HCs and Coordinators have walked into here - we need to stop thinking like Cleveland's version of Legally Blind (Mary Kay Cabot) or the male version (Tony Grossi). There's a culture shock learning curve Hue drastically underrated here that I think we're coming out of pretty well in 2018 with one of the youngest rosters in the league. If you choose to stay stranded in 0-16, you're choosing to miss the fun and excitement of 2018.
All that said, I bought myself a brand new village idiot Aggies in case all that disappears on me...
Hue was 12-4 the last time his job title was OC while Haley was 13-3.
Maybe they just need the same surrounding talent an experience volume on-board to get to that point here? When you go from working with a lot of talent to some of the bare cupboard many of our HCs and Coordinators have walked into here - we need to stop thinking like Cleveland's version of Legally Blind (Mary Kay Cabot) or the male version (Tony Grossi). There's a culture shock learning curve here that I think we're coming out of pretty well in 2018 with one of the youngest rosters in the league. If you choose to stay stranded in 0-16, you're choosing to miss the fun and excitement of 2018.
Our coaches have done their fair share of foot shooting the last two years. It has not quite changed yet, but it is getting better. When we start to feed the ball to Hyde in the I inside the 5, then I'll be more impressed than with some of these "cutesy" failures we've tried.
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Shurmur was a yes-man and a robot. Absolutely idiotic playcalling and the players didn't respect him.
I can't stand some of hue's decisions, but at least he's somewhat likeable. Players like him, Joe Thomas loved him.
Hue makes boneheaded calls, but comparing him to Shurmur, he at least shows emotion.
Mangini had more emotion than 20 hues and 40 shurmur's.
That's a dude that coached with passion.
he was a terrible gm though.....
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Shurmur seems like one of many that fall into the better Coordinator than Head Coach category.
Here's some other examples: Norv Turner, Lindy Infante, Wade Phillips, Gregg Williams, Todd Haley, Bud Carson, Buddy Ryan, Rex Ryan, Romeo Crennel, Marty Mornhinweg, Josh Daniels, Ken Whisenhunt, Mike McCoy, Chuck Pagano, Rob Chudzinski
Shurmur seems like one of many that fall into the better Coordinator than Head Coach category.
Here's some other examples: Norv Turner, Lindy Infante, Wade Phillips, Gregg Williams, Todd Haley, Bud Carson, Buddy Ryan, Rex Ryan, Romeo Crennel, Marty Mornhinweg, Josh Daniels, Ken Whisenhunt, Mike McCoy, Chuck Pagano, Rob Chudzinski
You left out perhaps the best of all. Mr. LeBeau
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Shurmur was one of the worst coaches I'd ever seen. It's a wonder I didn't break my tv when he was the Browns coach. Along with Brandon Weeden who was a pathetic excuse of a QB. I'm still surprised the Giants hired Dumbass Pat. It's no surprise the Giants are1-5 right now.
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