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  • nickersN nickers

    @flugel said:

    The same defense was only 4-5 when Flacco was their QB.

    Then they went 6-1 when Jackson was their QB. 

    When Jackson took over -  they surged up to #2 in Rushing.  In the process, there was an article on December 5th stating since Jackson took over at QB the Ravens have led the NFL in time of possession (holding the ball an average of 37:20 per game).  They weren't doing that w/Flacco and you know it.  When their offense did this for their defense, their defense played with much fresher legs in the 22:40 duration they had to take the field. And when your defense only has to play 1/3 of the game - less yardage and points are yielded.  That mattered way more than you and Gips seem to think it did.

    Do I think Lamar Jackson is a good passer?  No.  But I do think he is a beyotch to catch on 3rd downs as many of his opponents learned. 

    If you think that same team was headed for 10-6 and playoffs with Flacco last year - you're sniffing the same glue Gipper got into today.

    So, where are we as it pertains to the subject heading?  The Division Champs were ranked #2 in rushing last year and they just added Mark Ingram. My guess is they liked how that time of possession formula worked in their favor on both sides of the ball so they want that success to continue.   The best defense can be a good offense that keeps its defense seated 2/3 of the game.

    Outside of Pittsburgh, there isn't a team I hate more than Baltimore so I'm FREAKIN done with this conversation. 

    Tom... Anybody with an ounce of intelligence knows they can't keep this up forever.. You can't be that one dimensional and expect to be consistent.. Defense will load the box and push him to the side where he has the least success..  Remember what Sam Rutigliano said... "There are no old running QB's in the NFL ' and it's true..... If Lamar doesnt become a better passer than he is.. His career will be a very short one.. Then the Ratbirds are back at Square one.. It could be that the team was tired of Flacco , knowing his Skills were diminishing....  Trust me.. That fake ass QB won't make it half the season...

    @nickers said:

    Tom... Anybody with an ounce of intelligence knows they can't keep this up forever.. You can't be that one dimensional and expect to be consistent.. Defense will load the box and push him to the side where he has the least success..  Remember what Sam Rutigliano said... "There are no old running QB's in the NFL ' and it's true..... If Lamar doesnt become a better passer than he is.. His career will be a very short one.. Then the Ratbirds are back at Square one.. It could be that the team was tired of Flacco , knowing his Skills were diminishing....  Trust me.. That fake ass QB won't make it half the season...

    IDK, Vick lasted pretty long in the NFL, even having missed a few years over the dog crimes. AND, Vick even admitted he did almost no studying and had a bad work ethic. Jackson seems to be better in that area. I also am not sold on the "super athletic" QBs who can't become a pocket passer. But Steve Young did make the transition. And I'd have to say Randall Cunningham did too (i.e his days in MN). Regardless, even if LJ won't make the transformation to becoming more of a passer and there are "no old running QBs," LJ isn't old now, and won't become old this season either.

    If he doesn't pick up his passing game, teams will gameplan to slow him down (see the Chargers, although he almost came back in that game). But I believe their mauling power rushing and OL play and always stout defense will still win them some games and make them a contender.  Even with all the rule changes and interpretations to help passing games, this is still a physical biz, and teams can still win on being very physical, which Balt. still is. 

  • gumby73G gumby73

    @the-gipper said:

    I would take the backfield of the Bengals and Steelers over Shiteating birds.

    To you and to others..who do we think does more with less talent from the coaching side? John Harbaugh or Tomlin? Harbaugh seems more gameplan prepared than others imo.. individual players taped up I lean towards Harbaugh also..I want to see what John does with some missing pieces now on that defense..we may get our answers

    @gumby73 said:

    To you and to others..who do we think does more with less talent from the coaching side? John Harbaugh or Tomlin? Harbaugh seems more gameplan prepared than others imo.. individual players taped up I lean towards Harbaugh also..I want to see what John does with some missing pieces now on that defense..we may get our answers

    It's not even close. Hairball owns Tomlin in almost every phase. All Tomlin has is catchy quips and virtually nothing else. By all reports, he let that team turn into a clown show, with idiots like AB doing whatever they wanted. I'd take Hairball 100 out of 100 times. 

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