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  • AxeA Axe wrote on
    #41

    I dunno..

    Bucs and Browns fan here.

    Both are supposedly "loaded"

    I'm in "Show Me, Don't tell me" mode with both.  😵

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    This "loaded" team better score a ton of points because I still see a defense that is mediocre at best. 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #42

    @dutch-oven said:

    This "loaded" team better score a ton of points because I still see a defense that is mediocre at best. 

    Yup... like 'cube said, the LBs are suspect.

    For me the key is what we do with our Safety trio. If a really good hybrid LB emerges, then we have a shot at being improved as our "LB room" will only have to supply two starters.

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  • AxeA Axe

    I dunno..

    Bucs and Browns fan here.

    Both are supposedly "loaded"

    I'm in "Show Me, Don't tell me" mode with both.  😵

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #43

    @axe said:

    Bucs and Browns fan here. Both are supposedly "loaded". I'm in 'Show Me, Don't tell me" mode with both.  😵

    Well both's Offense are strongest part of their team...

    ... and that's where the similarity ends. 😉

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @icecube said:

    Yea, let's not get crazy and say Hooper is the #1 TE. 

    But, as I said, he IS in the picture.    What Metric would you like to use to determine the best?    If you go with the basics:  yards and TDs and catches , then you have this:

    Top Ten TEs in yards receiving:

    1. Darren Waller   Raiders

    2. George Kittle  SFO

    3. Zach Ertz  Philly

    4. Mark Andrews   Balt.

    5.  Hooper

    6. Tyler Higbee  Rams 

    7 Jared Cook   Saints

    8. Hunter Henry  Chargers

    9. Dallas Goedert  Philly

    10. Greg Olsen....Carolina

    If you go by  TDs you have:

    1. Andrews   10

    2. Jared Cook  9

    3.  Ertz,  Hooper,  Kyle Rudolph (Minn)  6 each

    7. Kittle,  Henry, Goedert,   Kelce  KC;  Mike Gesicki Miami/Ryan Griffin NYJ and Foster Moreau  Raiders;   5 each.

    If you go by straight number of catches you have:

    1. Kelce

    2. Waller

    3.Ertz

    4. Kittle

    5. Hooper

    So....Hooper IS in the Top 5 of each of those categories.  The ONLY other guy to be in the Top 5 of each category is Zach Ertz. 

    So, maybe it is NOT so crazy to argue that he may be the #1 TE in the league.

    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on
    #44

    @the-gipper said:

    But, as I said, he IS in the picture.    What Metric would you like to use to determine the best?    If you go with the basics:  yards and TDs and catches , then you have this:

    Top Ten TEs in yards receiving:

    1. Darren Waller   Raiders

    2. George Kittle  SFO

    3. Zach Ertz  Philly

    4. Mark Andrews   Balt.

    5.  Hooper

    6. Tyler Higbee  Rams 

    7 Jared Cook   Saints

    8. Hunter Henry  Chargers

    9. Dallas Goedert  Philly

    10. Greg Olsen....Carolina

    If you go by  TDs you have:

    1. Andrews   10

    2. Jared Cook  9

    3.  Ertz,  Hooper,  Kyle Rudolph (Minn)  6 each

    7. Kittle,  Henry, Goedert,   Kelce  KC;  Mike Gesicki Miami/Ryan Griffin NYJ and Foster Moreau  Raiders;   5 each.

    If you go by straight number of catches you have:

    1. Kelce

    2. Waller

    3.Ertz

    4. Kittle

    5. Hooper

    So....Hooper IS in the Top 5 of each of those categories.  The ONLY other guy to be in the Top 5 of each category is Zach Ertz. 

    So, maybe it is NOT so crazy to argue that he may be the #1 TE in the league.

    Combine that with teams going to be forced to reckon with a hungry and healed up Njoku! I still feel the sky is the limit for the Chief! 

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @icecube said:

    Yea, let's not get crazy and say Hooper is the #1 TE. 

    But, as I said, he IS in the picture.    What Metric would you like to use to determine the best?    If you go with the basics:  yards and TDs and catches , then you have this:

    Top Ten TEs in yards receiving:

    1. Darren Waller   Raiders

    2. George Kittle  SFO

    3. Zach Ertz  Philly

    4. Mark Andrews   Balt.

    5.  Hooper

    6. Tyler Higbee  Rams 

    7 Jared Cook   Saints

    8. Hunter Henry  Chargers

    9. Dallas Goedert  Philly

    10. Greg Olsen....Carolina

    If you go by  TDs you have:

    1. Andrews   10

    2. Jared Cook  9

    3.  Ertz,  Hooper,  Kyle Rudolph (Minn)  6 each

    7. Kittle,  Henry, Goedert,   Kelce  KC;  Mike Gesicki Miami/Ryan Griffin NYJ and Foster Moreau  Raiders;   5 each.

    If you go by straight number of catches you have:

    1. Kelce

    2. Waller

    3.Ertz

    4. Kittle

    5. Hooper

    So....Hooper IS in the Top 5 of each of those categories.  The ONLY other guy to be in the Top 5 of each category is Zach Ertz. 

    So, maybe it is NOT so crazy to argue that he may be the #1 TE in the league.

    I Icecube wrote on
    #45

    @the-gipper said:

    But, as I said, he IS in the picture.    What Metric would you like to use to determine the best?    If you go with the basics:  yards and TDs and catches , then you have this:

    Top Ten TEs in yards receiving:

    1. Darren Waller   Raiders

    2. George Kittle  SFO

    3. Zach Ertz  Philly

    4. Mark Andrews   Balt.

    5.  Hooper

    6. Tyler Higbee  Rams 

    7 Jared Cook   Saints

    8. Hunter Henry  Chargers

    9. Dallas Goedert  Philly

    10. Greg Olsen....Carolina

    If you go by  TDs you have:

    1. Andrews   10

    2. Jared Cook  9

    3.  Ertz,  Hooper,  Kyle Rudolph (Minn)  6 each

    7. Kittle,  Henry, Goedert,   Kelce  KC;  Mike Gesicki Miami/Ryan Griffin NYJ and Foster Moreau  Raiders;   5 each.

    If you go by straight number of catches you have:

    1. Kelce

    2. Waller

    3.Ertz

    4. Kittle

    5. Hooper

    So....Hooper IS in the Top 5 of each of those categories.  The ONLY other guy to be in the Top 5 of each category is Zach Ertz. 

    So, maybe it is NOT so crazy to argue that he may be the #1 TE in the league.

    Let's not forget who he had throwing him the ball: Matty Ice, a known probowl QB. The projections I see have Hooper at #10 TE in 2020. I concur with that assessment. 2020 season won't end with anyone saying Hooper is the #1 TE in the league. Don't get me wrong, he is an upgrade.  

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  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    @the-gipper said:

    But, as I said, he IS in the picture.    What Metric would you like to use to determine the best?    If you go with the basics:  yards and TDs and catches , then you have this:

    Top Ten TEs in yards receiving:

    1. Darren Waller   Raiders

    2. George Kittle  SFO

    3. Zach Ertz  Philly

    4. Mark Andrews   Balt.

    5.  Hooper

    6. Tyler Higbee  Rams 

    7 Jared Cook   Saints

    8. Hunter Henry  Chargers

    9. Dallas Goedert  Philly

    10. Greg Olsen....Carolina

    If you go by  TDs you have:

    1. Andrews   10

    2. Jared Cook  9

    3.  Ertz,  Hooper,  Kyle Rudolph (Minn)  6 each

    7. Kittle,  Henry, Goedert,   Kelce  KC;  Mike Gesicki Miami/Ryan Griffin NYJ and Foster Moreau  Raiders;   5 each.

    If you go by straight number of catches you have:

    1. Kelce

    2. Waller

    3.Ertz

    4. Kittle

    5. Hooper

    So....Hooper IS in the Top 5 of each of those categories.  The ONLY other guy to be in the Top 5 of each category is Zach Ertz. 

    So, maybe it is NOT so crazy to argue that he may be the #1 TE in the league.

    Combine that with teams going to be forced to reckon with a hungry and healed up Njoku! I still feel the sky is the limit for the Chief! 

    I Icecube wrote on
    #46

    @poeticg said:

    Combine that with teams going to be forced to reckon with a hungry and healed up Njoku! I still feel the sky is the limit for the Chief! 

    Njoku has to show me; all he has displayed so far is "potential." And you know what they say: If you have "potential" pencilled after your name for more than 2 years, without the word "production" you're gonna have the word "potential" written in pen instead of pencil. 

  • I Icecube

    @the-gipper said:

    But, as I said, he IS in the picture.    What Metric would you like to use to determine the best?    If you go with the basics:  yards and TDs and catches , then you have this:

    Top Ten TEs in yards receiving:

    1. Darren Waller   Raiders

    2. George Kittle  SFO

    3. Zach Ertz  Philly

    4. Mark Andrews   Balt.

    5.  Hooper

    6. Tyler Higbee  Rams 

    7 Jared Cook   Saints

    8. Hunter Henry  Chargers

    9. Dallas Goedert  Philly

    10. Greg Olsen....Carolina

    If you go by  TDs you have:

    1. Andrews   10

    2. Jared Cook  9

    3.  Ertz,  Hooper,  Kyle Rudolph (Minn)  6 each

    7. Kittle,  Henry, Goedert,   Kelce  KC;  Mike Gesicki Miami/Ryan Griffin NYJ and Foster Moreau  Raiders;   5 each.

    If you go by straight number of catches you have:

    1. Kelce

    2. Waller

    3.Ertz

    4. Kittle

    5. Hooper

    So....Hooper IS in the Top 5 of each of those categories.  The ONLY other guy to be in the Top 5 of each category is Zach Ertz. 

    So, maybe it is NOT so crazy to argue that he may be the #1 TE in the league.

    Let's not forget who he had throwing him the ball: Matty Ice, a known probowl QB. The projections I see have Hooper at #10 TE in 2020. I concur with that assessment. 2020 season won't end with anyone saying Hooper is the #1 TE in the league. Don't get me wrong, he is an upgrade.  

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #47

    @icecube said:

    Let's not forget who he had throwing him the ball: Matty Ice, a known probowl QB. The projections I see have Hooper at #10 TE in 2020. I concur with that assessment. 2020 season won't end with anyone saying Hooper is the #1 TE in the league. Don't get me wrong, he is an upgrade.  

    Let's meet halfway....#4 or 5.    Which is where he was last year. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @ballpeen said:

    Hold the other team to fewer points every game.

    I win the chicken dinner.

    BUZZZZ  too late.   Other got their hand on that poultry before you.    But we will leave a couple of wings for you. 

    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on
    #48

    @the-gipper said:

    BUZZZZ  too late.   Other got their hand on that poultry before you.    But we will leave a couple of wings for you. 

    Wings are my favorite part.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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