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** The "Official" ?  ▪︎ AFC WILD CARD ▪︎ BROWNS (-2½) -at- Texans  ?  Sat. Jan. 13 *(Rev. 1/13/2024) **

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  • @bob806 said:

    I expected a toughie but this is unexpected.

    I get why teams rest their regulars but in hindsight maybe not a good idea. We seem a step or 3 slow

    This looks like a good place to re-post some of my random Rockhead. 

     It seemed like every time I watched a road game whether it was in Denver, Seattle, LA or most recently in Houston - the commentators that did their last minute cliff notes research on the Browns wore the following statement out: "The Cleveland Browns have the #1 Defense"  All the while they were doing it Seattle drove their first 2 drives down the field and into the end zone spotting them a 14-3 the Browns couldn't overcome.  Denver bullied the crap out of the #1 Defense and how much did our #1 Defense scare the LA Rams?  ALL that bullshit is like a Peter King designating his annual 1 hour of researching what's going on with the Browns and summarizing it as well as any stranger to them can do it in the 20 minutes or so it takes to write his summary of the Browns.  However, in this case the commentators are stuck doing it for 3 hours; so we get to hear how unbeatable the #1 Defense is from people that are completely unfamiliar with it.

    My take?  Our defense came a LONG way from last year; and I was really proud of them for that.  However, you can't patch ALL of your depth and weaknesses in just 1 offseason - especially without a 1st round draft pick (which Houston is in sole possession of).  Schwartz was a much needed addition as we witnessed via his tapping the very best of Myles Garrett, JOK and Denzel Ward.  The DT position was the biggest improvement in talent, depth and performance.  Unfortunately, we missed the big plays at the best of times from Mo Hurst in our rotation after he went on IR.  Meanwhile, our secondary got exposed for all to see yesterday and in LA.  I would have added Denver but Denzel Ward was out that game so Newsome got completely overwhelmed trying to cover their #1 WR Sutton.  Probably the most embarrassing moment (shortly after the 5th time we had to hear the Browns have the #1 defense) was when a Denver Receiver got deep with nobody covering him or within 30 yards of him.  Luckily he was overthrown.  Having said that, earlier on they completed a deep pass to a receiver that easily got behind our secondary and Newsome made the TD saving tackle.  No doubt CJ had a great day; but it would have been nice if our corners at least competed to the extent that he had to throw them open.  That wasn't required at all of CJ.  We all loved what Schwartz did for our defense this season; but Houston was better prepared on both sides of the ball.  I was worried about securing the football and turnovers; but even without their 2 pick 6s - their offense still scored 31 points on drives/big play passes.

    Reality is the Browns didn't win 11 games by accident.  They earned a lot of hard fought victories in spite of their injury volumes on both sides of the ball. I think we were all proud of them for that. We'll got our top 2 RTs back next year and hopefully a harder working/more inspired Wills at LT.  We can draft someone in the 2nd round this time around instead overrating the crap out of another Eli Moore.  In rounds 2-4, please draft a DB/Safety with smarts, find the next version Fred Warner at LB in round 3 and perhaps a RB that doesn't blow off daylight for tap dances. The dream is to get Nick Chubb back in the lineup.   I hope the FO & Stefanski is prepared for the possibility of losing Schwartz.  If that does happen, is their a Defensive Coach here that learned the system enough to be promoted for the sake of continuity and the popularity of the scheme from the players?

    We're gonna see so don't change that station - especially for Peacock!

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    @flugel said:

    This looks like a good place to re-post some of my random Rockhead. 

     It seemed like every time I watched a road game whether it was in Denver, Seattle, LA or most recently in Houston - the commentators that did their last minute cliff notes research on the Browns wore the following statement out: "The Cleveland Browns have the #1 Defense"  All the while they were doing it Seattle drove their first 2 drives down the field and into the end zone spotting them a 14-3 the Browns couldn't overcome.  Denver bullied the crap out of the #1 Defense and how much did our #1 Defense scare the LA Rams?  ALL that bullshit is like a Peter King designating his annual 1 hour of researching what's going on with the Browns and summarizing it as well as any stranger to them can do it in the 20 minutes or so it takes to write his summary of the Browns.  However, in this case the commentators are stuck doing it for 3 hours; so we get to hear how unbeatable the #1 Defense is from people that are completely unfamiliar with it.

    My take?  Our defense came a LONG way from last year; and I was really proud of them for that.  However, you can't patch ALL of your depth and weaknesses in just 1 offseason - especially without a 1st round draft pick (which Houston is in sole possession of).  Schwartz was a much needed addition as we witnessed via his tapping the very best of Myles Garrett, JOK and Denzel Ward.  The DT position was the biggest improvement in talent, depth and performance.  Unfortunately, we missed the big plays at the best of times from Mo Hurst in our rotation after he went on IR.  Meanwhile, our secondary got exposed for all to see yesterday and in LA.  I would have added Denver but Denzel Ward was out that game so Newsome got completely overwhelmed trying to cover their #1 WR Sutton.  Probably the most embarrassing moment (shortly after the 5th time we had to hear the Browns have the #1 defense) was when a Denver Receiver got deep with nobody covering him or within 30 yards of him.  Luckily he was overthrown.  Having said that, earlier on they completed a deep pass to a receiver that easily got behind our secondary and Newsome made the TD saving tackle.  No doubt CJ had a great day; but it would have been nice if our corners at least competed to the extent that he had to throw them open.  That wasn't required at all of CJ.  We all loved what Schwartz did for our defense this season; but Houston was better prepared on both sides of the ball.  I was worried about securing the football and turnovers; but even without their 2 pick 6s - their offense still scored 31 points on drives/big play passes.

    Reality is the Browns didn't win 11 games by accident.  They earned a lot of hard fought victories in spite of their injury volumes on both sides of the ball. I think we were all proud of them for that. We'll got our top 2 RTs back next year and hopefully a harder working/more inspired Wills at LT.  We can draft someone in the 2nd round this time around instead overrating the crap out of another Eli Moore.  In rounds 2-4, please draft a DB/Safety with smarts, find the next version Fred Warner at LB in round 3 and perhaps a RB that doesn't blow off daylight for tap dances. The dream is to get Nick Chubb back in the lineup.   I hope the FO & Stefanski is prepared for the possibility of losing Schwartz.  If that does happen, is their a Defensive Coach here that learned the system enough to be promoted for the sake of continuity and the popularity of the scheme from the players?

    We're gonna see so don't change that station - especially for Peacock!

    Well said. I'm not really upset, the Browns are headed in the right direction for sure.

    It's going to be hard to watch the rest of the playoffs for me. Ratbirds, Steelers, Bills, 49ers, Eagles...I really can't stand those teams.

    Go Browns!!!

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    Well my Broncos loving season ticket holding nephew has promised to take me to the Browns game whenever it's scheduled there in Denver this year. So I've recovered enough from yesterday to be hyped about that. I think we can take 'em there too.??

  • @gumby73 said:

    All this tv chatter of making this game the COTY winner... Blow me !

    time for some Browns radio network..  https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/audio/radio

    Chick'in Wings ✅/ Beer ✅/ Browns Xmas Hockey Jersey ✅

    Going to miss 1 PM NFL kickoffs  

    I thought the individual awards were all regular season awards, and postseason didn’t factor in voting

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    @bbedward said:

    I thought the individual awards were all regular season awards, and postseason didn’t factor in voting

    @gumby73 said:

    this is the same thoughts I have ^^ votes are already in.. TV pregame says anything to hold TV viewers

    per paid site The Athletic writer..

    On Jan 4, 2024 — Less than one week remains before the Jan. 10th voting deadline for MVP and the other annual Associated Press NFL awards

    so 3 days before Browns playoff game was played, the votes were in..

  • @bbedward said:

    I thought the individual awards were all regular season awards, and postseason didn’t factor in voting

    @gumby73 said:

    this is the same thoughts I have ^^ votes are already in.. TV pregame says anything to hold TV viewers

    per paid site The Athletic writer..

    On Jan 4, 2024 — Less than one week remains before the Jan. 10th voting deadline for MVP and the other annual Associated Press NFL awards

    so 3 days before Browns playoff game was played, the votes were in..

    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by

    @gumby73 said:

    per paid site The Athletic writer..

    On Jan 4, 2024 — Less than one week remains before the Jan. 10th voting deadline for MVP and the other annual Associated Press NFL awards

    so 3 days before Browns playoff game was played, the votes were in..

    I’d be pretty confident stefanski gets coty in that case, after the wild card game it clearly should be demeco though…out coached similar to how McVay exploited the defense with the quick hitting misdirections.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    We were at a disadvantage because we beat them the last time?

    Deep. No?  🙂 

    We got beat because our QB threw 2 TD's for them.  We gave up too many big plays on D.  And because we couldn't run the ball.  

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    @orion said:

    Deep. No?  🙂 

    We got beat because our QB threw 2 TD's for them.  We gave up too many big plays on D.  And because we couldn't run the ball.  

    Giving up big plays has been an infuriating weakness of this defense the entire season. I expected at least one but boy did they find the day to give their worst performance. However looked like it was a running theme this weekend with Dallas' purportedly top 4 defense being boat raced too.