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  • @bob806 said:

    Makes sense. 

    To a degree, I also think DW has some influence on this. 

    Finding someone who is proficient in the spread/RPO offense is paramount. 

    It shouldn't be as difficult as the Browns have seemingly made it the last two seasons, Jesus Tap Dancin' Christ every high school and college in the country runs it. 

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Finding someone who is proficient in the spread/RPO offense is paramount. 

    It shouldn't be as difficult as the Browns have seemingly made it the last two seasons, Jesus Tap Dancin' Christ every high school and college in the country runs it. 

    It looks like they want to start a Tea-Sipper club that also wants to overthink the crap out of what they can do with the QB they invested heavily in.  This will be Watson's 3rd year here already; so by all means - try not to hurry for the return on the investment...

    The 1st name that comes to mind is Greg Roman, who was Jim Harbaugh's OC at SF when they went to the SB with Colin Kaepernick.  Then he was an OC for some winning teams in Baltimore.  He's got about 25 years of experience; which might be something we should tap...

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    @flugel said:

    1A). Greg Norman  1B). Jerrod's John's son

    friends of yours ???

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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    download.webp.d4aaa5ea85092eb8b1cae7fee9c15058.webp   Greg Roman.. not Norman  download.jpg.1833dcb1680ecd364cdf32aa40d01e56.jpg

    25 Up/downs Mr. @flugel   BE-gin on the whistle !

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    @orion said:

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    just don't choke again greg

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    So, what will the new OC actually do?  

    We have a HC who calls the plays.  He's not going to stop calling the plays.  (HC's that call plays require the play-chart to be pried from their cold dead hands)   IMO, the new OC will be an assistant to the play caller.  And will hopefully bring some fresh ideas to incorporate into Stef's system.  

    Ya know it was kind of refreshing to see Stef's play calling change as he went from QB to QB throughout the season.  He was able to tailor things to the QB that he had to trot out onto the field that particular week.  And when he got to Flacco the RPO stuff had to go into moth balls.  

  • download.webp.d4aaa5ea85092eb8b1cae7fee9c15058.webp   Greg Roman.. not Norman  download.jpg.1833dcb1680ecd364cdf32aa40d01e56.jpg

    25 Up/downs Mr. @flugel   BE-gin on the whistle !

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    download.webp.d4aaa5ea85092eb8b1cae7fee9c15058.webp   Greg Roman.. not Norman  download.jpg.1833dcb1680ecd364cdf32aa40d01e56.jpg

    25 Up/downs Mr. @flugel   BE-gin on the whistle !

    Thanks Gumbs!    Yeah, he's THAT impressive!

  • FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

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    I'm not even 60 yet and I'm doing stuff like this Orion...

  • So, what will the new OC actually do?  

    We have a HC who calls the plays.  He's not going to stop calling the plays.  (HC's that call plays require the play-chart to be pried from their cold dead hands)   IMO, the new OC will be an assistant to the play caller.  And will hopefully bring some fresh ideas to incorporate into Stef's system.  

    Ya know it was kind of refreshing to see Stef's play calling change as he went from QB to QB throughout the season.  He was able to tailor things to the QB that he had to trot out onto the field that particular week.  And when he got to Flacco the RPO stuff had to go into moth balls.  

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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    @orion said:

    So, what will the new OC actually do?  

    We have a HC who calls the plays.  He's not going to stop calling the plays.  (HC's that call plays require the play-chart to be pried from their cold dead hands)   IMO, the new OC will be an assistant to the play caller.  And will hopefully bring some fresh ideas to incorporate into Stef's system.  

    Ya know it was kind of refreshing to see Stef's play calling change as he went from QB to QB throughout the season.  He was able to tailor things to the QB that he had to trot out onto the field that particular week.  And when he got to Flacco the RPO stuff had to go into moth balls.  

    I think whoever it will be - he'll help with the design of the offense from the pass receiving route tree to the running game to the blocking schemes and pass protections.  In saying that, he'll have to identify what Watson has done/does best; and tailor all that into the game plans and plays Stefanski will choose from in every situation.  

    If they add the right guy - he can be extremely helpful!  This is why I like Roman's experience and the style of QBs he worked with.  It's also good to have the OC an ear shot away on game day if he's seeing any mismatches upfront to exploit and/or anything to be aware of with the LBers or Secondary.

  • @gumby73 said:

    download.webp.d4aaa5ea85092eb8b1cae7fee9c15058.webp   Greg Roman.. not Norman  download.jpg.1833dcb1680ecd364cdf32aa40d01e56.jpg

    25 Up/downs Mr. @flugel   BE-gin on the whistle !

    Thanks Gumbs!    Yeah, he's THAT impressive!

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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    @flugel said:

    Thanks Gumbs!    Yeah, he's THAT impressive!

    small stuff makes my day ? 

    Roman makes a lot of sense. I'm not seeing a honest hard nose coach like Roman from that side of the ball. (a Schwartz) If Lamar can take hard/critical coaching? Why not D.Watson ?

    @orion said:

    We have a HC who calls the plays.  He's not going to stop calling the plays.  (HC's that call plays require the play-chart to be pried from their cold dead hands)   IMO, the new OC will be an assistant to the play caller.  And will hopefully bring some fresh ideas to incorporate into Stef's system.

    This offensive coaching staff, started getting weird when Mayfield didn't want a QB coach. So Stef, sent AVP along side Baker on the bench with the windows tablet..  Have we seen anything change since Watson took over the position?  

    Stef's thinking... OC/QB coach ? 

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  • @flugel said:

    Thanks Gumbs!    Yeah, he's THAT impressive!

    small stuff makes my day ? 

    Roman makes a lot of sense. I'm not seeing a honest hard nose coach like Roman from that side of the ball. (a Schwartz) If Lamar can take hard/critical coaching? Why not D.Watson ?

    @orion said:

    We have a HC who calls the plays.  He's not going to stop calling the plays.  (HC's that call plays require the play-chart to be pried from their cold dead hands)   IMO, the new OC will be an assistant to the play caller.  And will hopefully bring some fresh ideas to incorporate into Stef's system.

    This offensive coaching staff, started getting weird when Mayfield didn't want a QB coach. So Stef, sent AVP along side Baker on the bench with the windows tablet..  Have we seen anything change since Watson took over the position?  

    Stef's thinking... OC/QB coach ? 

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    small stuff makes my day ? 

    Roman makes a lot of sense. I'm not seeing a honest hard nose coach like Roman from that side of the ball. (a Schwartz) If Lamar can take hard/critical coaching? Why not D.Watson ?

    This offensive coaching staff, started getting weird when Mayfield didn't want a QB coach. So Stef, sent AVP along side Baker on the bench with the windows tablet..  Have we seen anything change since Watson took over the position?  

    Stef's thinking... OC/QB coach ? 

    ? Never a dull moment.   About 5 months ago I was writing about Herman Fontenot but I kept calling him Mike Oliphant (which was quite the contrast to the pleasant surprise I thought I was presenting to readers). 

    Looking at your last 2 questions above, I thought Musgrave hired to assist with some of that stuff.  When we really think about it - the two 1st round QBs on the roster combined for a 9-2 record. Watson went 5-1 and Flacco went 4-1.  Not bad considering how much of that was without starting Tackles.  

    Meanwhile Driskel, Walker, and DTR were a combined 2-4.  In fairness, I don't know if a coach or miracle worker solves that reality...

    My guess is the volume of turnovers red flagged a need for changes as well as help tailoring the offense to the QB's talent/skillset. 

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    @syd said:

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    Browns OC candidate Kellen Moore takes job with the Eagles instead

    Phew!!!!!!!!!! 1 less worry!  Great job with these updates - Thanks Syd!

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    You almost have to think there is a coach the Browns really want to be their OC, or at least really want to interview, that is on one of these four teams. 

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    @orion said:

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    Greg and I have something in common. Neither of us have ever been to a Masters Champions dinner.

  • @orion said:

    image.png.3d52aa2e8b40e45a1c60d239faaad6c9.png

    Greg and I have something in common. Neither of us have ever been to a Masters Champions dinner.

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    @ballpeen said:

    Greg and I have something in common. Neither of us have ever been to a Masters Champions dinner.

    I enjoyed those days...the players of the time, Greg, Fuzzy, Fred Couples, I liked Payne Stewart.  He played blues harp in the unofficial PGA band.  I think Peter Jacobsen played guitar...I forget who the other band member was...