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Mangini: Browns have "remarkable similarities" to Patriots

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  • @mopaji said:

    PS. "we need to work on fundamentals" is coach speak for "HOLY SHIT!! THESE GUYS SUCK!!" And "I see similarities between NE and us right now" is coach speak for "Shut up, let me work, this can be fixed"

    Agreed, there's a lack of talent. However, there's plenty of guys who know the game (Schottenheimer) who have said the team isn't playing up to it's meager potential. You mean to tell me the Bears are that much better than the Browns? They just got blown out by Arizona.

    Yeah, I love fixing things seeing Mangenius let Anderson try to set the all-time record for lowest qb rating.

    The guy is one and done in my book. Bye Eric, and take DA with you.

    mopajiM mopaji wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    Agreed, there's a lack of talent. However, there's plenty of guys who know the game (Schottenheimer) who have said the team isn't playing up to it's meager potential. You mean to tell me the Bears are that much better than the Browns? They just got blown out by Arizona.

    Yeah, I love fixing things seeing Mangenius let Anderson try to set the all-time record for lowest qb rating.

    The guy is one and done in my book. Bye Eric, and take DA with you.

    As a DA supporter I can now say without a doubt that he is no better than Quinn. And so that supports my point that this team is talentless. And if we get rid of Mangini after 1 year, we'll be right back here next year saying the same things until the next guy gets fired and then we can do it all over again. Mangini may be an arrogant ass but he's our best chance of actually rebuilding this mess of a team and orginization. Like him or not, he is the first real NFL Head Coach we have had since returning in 99 and so it should be no wonder that the process looks so much different from past years. As ugly as it looks now, this is how the process works.

  • GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by
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    Personally i want the cleveland browns to have their own look not the pats or the jets..mangini and daboll need to let the browns play to their strengths instead of designing the players around a scheme that the fans and players dislike..

  • @hoorta said:

    Agreed, there's a lack of talent. However, there's plenty of guys who know the game (Schottenheimer) who have said the team isn't playing up to it's meager potential. You mean to tell me the Bears are that much better than the Browns? They just got blown out by Arizona.

    Yeah, I love fixing things seeing Mangenius let Anderson try to set the all-time record for lowest qb rating.

    The guy is one and done in my book. Bye Eric, and take DA with you.

    As a DA supporter I can now say without a doubt that he is no better than Quinn. And so that supports my point that this team is talentless. And if we get rid of Mangini after 1 year, we'll be right back here next year saying the same things until the next guy gets fired and then we can do it all over again. Mangini may be an arrogant ass but he's our best chance of actually rebuilding this mess of a team and orginization. Like him or not, he is the first real NFL Head Coach we have had since returning in 99 and so it should be no wonder that the process looks so much different from past years. As ugly as it looks now, this is how the process works.

    GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
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    @mopaji said:

    As a DA supporter I can now say without a doubt that he is no better than Quinn. And so that supports my point that this team is talentless. And if we get rid of Mangini after 1 year, we'll be right back here next year saying the same things until the next guy gets fired and then we can do it all over again. Mangini may be an arrogant ass but he's our best chance of actually rebuilding this mess of a team and orginization. Like him or not, he is the first real NFL Head Coach we have had since returning in 99 and so it should be no wonder that the process looks so much different from past years. As ugly as it looks now, this is how the process works.

    Lets give bq 2 years and see if he isnt light years ahead of DA..but it should be mentioned dabolls offensive scheme is not suitable to either DA or BQ or even payton manning...DA is a gunslinger and bq needs lots of options this offense offers neither all it offers is 8 in the box and 3 guys 10-15 yards out..

    Ultra conservative small minded non scoring offenses completely liberate defenses to stay bold..

  • @mopaji said:

    As a DA supporter I can now say without a doubt that he is no better than Quinn. And so that supports my point that this team is talentless. And if we get rid of Mangini after 1 year, we'll be right back here next year saying the same things until the next guy gets fired and then we can do it all over again. Mangini may be an arrogant ass but he's our best chance of actually rebuilding this mess of a team and orginization. Like him or not, he is the first real NFL Head Coach we have had since returning in 99 and so it should be no wonder that the process looks so much different from past years. As ugly as it looks now, this is how the process works.

    Lets give bq 2 years and see if he isnt light years ahead of DA..but it should be mentioned dabolls offensive scheme is not suitable to either DA or BQ or even payton manning...DA is a gunslinger and bq needs lots of options this offense offers neither all it offers is 8 in the box and 3 guys 10-15 yards out..

    Ultra conservative small minded non scoring offenses completely liberate defenses to stay bold..

    mopajiM mopaji wrote on last edited by
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    @gips said:

    Lets give bq 2 years and see if he isnt light years ahead of DA..but it should be mentioned dabolls offensive scheme is not suitable to either DA or BQ or even payton manning...DA is a gunslinger and bq needs lots of options this offense offers neither all it offers is 8 in the box and 3 guys 10-15 yards out..

    Ultra conservative small minded non scoring offenses completely liberate defenses to stay bold..

    You are exactly right except that the scheme that you mentioned above is because of Quinn's skill-set and DA is just bad. Its really hard to get a beat on what we are even doing offensively because every play involves a bad throw, a dropped pass, a fumble, a KR taking a direct snap, or an aging RB tip-toeing to the line. Which takes me back to my point that its not Mangini, its the total lack of talent and losing culture that he inherited. As for Quinn, we'll see if he improves enough for the remainder of the season to hold onto him. If not, we'll be looking for a veteren in the offseason and drafting one on the 2nd day next year. One thing for certain that Mangini has in common with BB and Parcells is that he isn't going to draft a QB high. Mangini also likes system players and isn't one to go out and grab a big name and pay him big money out of desperation. And as for giving BQ 2 MORE years to show us something, we should be saying the same about Mangini. I may be in the major minority here but I am all for giving the guy 3 years to right this ship. I think he is the best coach we have had since Marty. If my coach is going to fail, I want to make damn sure he gets ample time to prove himself so he doesn't go somewhere else and become a Bruce Arians or BB. Both of whom were hired as soon as we let them go and now look at them.

  • @hoorta said:

    Agreed, there's a lack of talent. However, there's plenty of guys who know the game (Schottenheimer) who have said the team isn't playing up to it's meager potential. You mean to tell me the Bears are that much better than the Browns? They just got blown out by Arizona.

    Yeah, I love fixing things seeing Mangenius let Anderson try to set the all-time record for lowest qb rating.

    The guy is one and done in my book. Bye Eric, and take DA with you.

    As a DA supporter I can now say without a doubt that he is no better than Quinn. And so that supports my point that this team is talentless. And if we get rid of Mangini after 1 year, we'll be right back here next year saying the same things until the next guy gets fired and then we can do it all over again. Mangini may be an arrogant ass but he's our best chance of actually rebuilding this mess of a team and orginization. Like him or not, he is the first real NFL Head Coach we have had since returning in 99 and so it should be no wonder that the process looks so much different from past years. As ugly as it looks now, this is how the process works.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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    @mopaji said:

    As a DA supporter I can now say without a doubt that he is no better than Quinn. And so that supports my point that this team is talentless. And if we get rid of Mangini after 1 year, we'll be right back here next year saying the same things until the next guy gets fired and then we can do it all over again. Mangini may be an arrogant ass but he's our best chance of actually rebuilding this mess of a team and orginization. Like him or not, he is the first real NFL Head Coach we have had since returning in 99 and so it should be no wonder that the process looks so much different from past years. As ugly as it looks now, this is how the process works.

    You are exactly right except that the scheme that you mentioned above is because of Quinn's skill-set and DA is just bad. Its really hard to get a beat on what we are even doing offensively because every play involves a bad throw, a dropped pass, a fumble, a KR taking a direct snap, or an aging RB tip-toeing to the line. Which takes me back to my point that its not Mangini, its the total lack of talent and losing culture that he inherited. As for Quinn, we'll see if he improves enough for the remainder of the season to hold onto him

    Quinn no better than DA? HAHAHAHA. I'm going to collect on one bet this year already- Jamal Lewis won't reach 1,000 yards. And I can guarantee you Quinn will have a higher qb rating come the end of the season than DA, care to take me up on that one? It would be virtually impossible for him not to. It shouldn't have taken Mangini 5 games to come to the conclusion Anderson is currently a qb of historically bad proportions. Total mismanagement of the qb situation. Strike one Eric.

    Agreed, it's not all DA's fault- but if you read the pro-Mangini article, Anderson is still making dumb decisions after three years as a starter. Yeah, I watched the entire Bengals- Ravens game, and DA has no resemblance to a real top shelf NFL quarterback whatsoever. Unbelievable how badly the guy has regressed. Mangini should have cut Anderson right after the Bears game, we have enough backup for Quinn with Cribbs and Ratliff. Speaking of Cribbs, the WildDawg is worthless if you're just going to run Josh out of it. WHY are they so afraid to let a former college qb attempt a few passes out of it? Strike two Eric.