It ain't over 'til it's over...
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Now that the precedent has been set, I'm an employer and will immediately require anyone working for me to take my non FDA approved injection that reverses anyone afflicted with dumbassism, and prevents it in those yet inflicted.
I will not be held responsible if it gives them cancer in 3 years or makes them grow a flipper either..... Fuck! This is gonna be sweet!
After this, I miss your timeout rants on the Tavern. ?
After this, I miss your timeout rants on the Tavern. ?
I was going to use another analogy with me requiring my employees to be vegetarian and eat only what I provide (it's safe - I promise!), coupled with daily weigh-ins and weight limits, all to save them from the leading cause of death on this planet every second of every day..... Ah shit, I did it anyway. My bad. ?
Alright, I'll slither out of this thread now and let you all wring your hands freely and without judgment... After this of course:
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LOL, for the record- me and Zombo have the final say what's acceptable on THIS forum- not Steve... So go and cry back on the Right Wing Conspiracy cesspool that I'm restricting your free speech.
Speaking of West Side Steve's Cesspool of Right Wing Bullshit Heaven, where's Gorka?
I'm wondering if he's still laughing at my prediction that Biden would trounce Captain Bonespurs...
Speaking of West Side Steve's Cesspool of Right Wing Bullshit Heaven, where's Gorka?
I'm wondering if he's still laughing at my prediction that Biden would trounce Captain Bonespurs...
Hasn't been seen there of late... Apparently he got so butthurt after I gave him a two day kiddie timeout for repeated profane attacks against another poster he sort of left. I try not to waste much time there anymore- it's not a discussion forum- it's a right wing opinion forum. I'm pretty sure one of the posters is a certified QAnon true believer, and there's several others right there on the lunatic fringe. In that regard, from my Moderator POV- I'll just leave them alone. The outcry that I would dare try to keep things civil taught me not to bother in the future. You can post any crackpot right wing conspiracy there with zero fear of being censored for it. Amazing that of late, 53% of Republicans believe Trump is still the President
It's like saying if you're not black enough.. You can't work here... Like Woka-Cola for example... It's discrimination...
Not exactly. Employers DO have the right to discriminate against unhealthy practices in their respective work environments. Stuff like drug testing. A lot of places showing up for work stoned or drunk is going to get you fired, no questions asked. On a personal level- my wife (healthcare worker) decided to quit smoking years ago because- the hospital she works at didn't demand it- but if you tested positive for nicotine, you were going to get charged a hefty premium on your health insurance because of your "freedom" to light up.
So in that regard- not being vaccinated against covid certainly does increase your odds of becoming "unhealthy". It's not just well, you'll be sick for a day or two either. I believe Tex had a friend who spent weeks in ICU on a respirator- and I have a wine group associate that was off work for months post covid, and a year later, she's still not close to 100%. So, since you want to have the freedom to not get your covid shot- you're free to look for a job at an employer who doesn't insist on it.
Regarding the NFL- the players aren't being mandated to get vaccinated, but MHO is you're not being a very good teammate if you decide against doing so. Essentially- any of the ancillary staff that decides against getting vaccinated are effectively being banned from any contact at team facilities.
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After this, I miss your timeout rants on the Tavern. ?
I was going to use another analogy with me requiring my employees to be vegetarian and eat only what I provide (it's safe - I promise!), coupled with daily weigh-ins and weight limits, all to save them from the leading cause of death on this planet every second of every day..... Ah shit, I did it anyway. My bad. ?
Alright, I'll slither out of this thread now and let you all wring your hands freely and without judgment... After this of course:
I was going to use another analogy with me requiring my employees to be vegetarian and eat only what I provide (it's safe - I promise!), coupled with daily weigh-ins and weight limits, all to save them from the leading cause of death on this planet every second of every day..... Ah shit, I did it anyway. My bad. ?
Alright, I'll slither out of this thread now and let you all wring your hands freely and without judgment... After this of course:
Oh you are funny... I will tell you a true hospital story. One of our guards almost got killed at work... He was pushing a 600 pounder up a ramp in a wheelchair, and it tipped over backwards and fell on him.
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Speaking of West Side Steve's Cesspool of Right Wing Bullshit Heaven, where's Gorka?
I'm wondering if he's still laughing at my prediction that Biden would trounce Captain Bonespurs...
Hasn't been seen there of late... Apparently he got so butthurt after I gave him a two day kiddie timeout for repeated profane attacks against another poster he sort of left. I try not to waste much time there anymore- it's not a discussion forum- it's a right wing opinion forum. I'm pretty sure one of the posters is a certified QAnon true believer, and there's several others right there on the lunatic fringe. In that regard, from my Moderator POV- I'll just leave them alone. The outcry that I would dare try to keep things civil taught me not to bother in the future. You can post any crackpot right wing conspiracy there with zero fear of being censored for it. Amazing that of late, 53% of Republicans believe Trump is still the President
It's like saying if you're not black enough.. You can't work here... Like Woka-Cola for example... It's discrimination...
Not exactly. Employers DO have the right to discriminate against unhealthy practices in their respective work environments. Stuff like drug testing. A lot of places showing up for work stoned or drunk is going to get you fired, no questions asked. On a personal level- my wife (healthcare worker) decided to quit smoking years ago because- the hospital she works at didn't demand it- but if you tested positive for nicotine, you were going to get charged a hefty premium on your health insurance because of your "freedom" to light up.
So in that regard- not being vaccinated against covid certainly does increase your odds of becoming "unhealthy". It's not just well, you'll be sick for a day or two either. I believe Tex had a friend who spent weeks in ICU on a respirator- and I have a wine group associate that was off work for months post covid, and a year later, she's still not close to 100%. So, since you want to have the freedom to not get your covid shot- you're free to look for a job at an employer who doesn't insist on it.
Regarding the NFL- the players aren't being mandated to get vaccinated, but MHO is you're not being a very good teammate if you decide against doing so. Essentially- any of the ancillary staff that decides against getting vaccinated are effectively being banned from any contact at team facilities.
Hasn't been seen there of late... Apparently he got so butthurt after I gave him a two day kiddie timeout for repeated profane attacks against another poster he sort of left. I try not to waste much time there anymore- it's not a discussion forum- it's a right wing opinion forum. I'm pretty sure one of the posters is a certified QAnon true believer, and there's several others right there on the lunatic fringe. In that regard, from my Moderator POV- I'll just leave them alone. The outcry that I would dare try to keep things civil taught me not to bother in the future. You can post any crackpot right wing conspiracy there with zero fear of being censored for it. Amazing that of late, 53% of Republicans believe Trump is still the President
Not exactly. Employers DO have the right to discriminate against unhealthy practices in their respective work environments. Stuff like drug testing. A lot of places showing up for work stoned or drunk is going to get you fired, no questions asked. On a personal level- my wife (healthcare worker) decided to quit smoking years ago because- the hospital she works at didn't demand it- but if you tested positive for nicotine, you were going to get charged a hefty premium on your health insurance because of your "freedom" to light up.
So in that regard- not being vaccinated against covid certainly does increase your odds of becoming "unhealthy". It's not just well, you'll be sick for a day or two either. I believe Tex had a friend who spent weeks in ICU on a respirator- and I have a wine group associate that was off work for months post covid, and a year later, she's still not close to 100%. So, since you want to have the freedom to not get your covid shot- you're free to look for a job at an employer who doesn't insist on it.
Regarding the NFL- the players aren't being mandated to get vaccinated, but MHO is you're not being a very good teammate if you decide against doing so. Essentially- any of the ancillary staff that decides against getting vaccinated are effectively being banned from any contact at team facilities.
Well then they should tell that to half of the employees at Meyer Snow Products where I used to work... The plant Manager, The Union President , And the plant Foreman were always drunk and stoned by 9 am every morning putting everyone's life in jeopardy... The hypocrasy is amazing... Especially since I incurred a back injury due to some idiots ignorance but got off on the fact my piss wound up dirty.. But here's the kicker.. I never drank or got high on the job like these assholes do.. I always kept my business at home. I had to do 12 weeks of Drug rehab which was a total farce.. meanwhile the plant Foreman was tootin coke all day long...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Worst part of this board is how left it is. Ugh.
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Worst part of this board is how left it is. Ugh.
Worst part of this board is how left it is. Ugh.
Just go over to the polyboard. You won't be disappointed. All your friends have a wonderful circle jerk going and you will fit right in.?
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After this, I miss your timeout rants on the Tavern. ?
I was going to use another analogy with me requiring my employees to be vegetarian and eat only what I provide (it's safe - I promise!), coupled with daily weigh-ins and weight limits, all to save them from the leading cause of death on this planet every second of every day..... Ah shit, I did it anyway. My bad. ?
Alright, I'll slither out of this thread now and let you all wring your hands freely and without judgment... After this of course:
I was going to use another analogy with me requiring my employees to be vegetarian and eat only what I provide (it's safe - I promise!), coupled with daily weigh-ins and weight limits, all to save them from the leading cause of death on this planet every second of every day..... Ah shit, I did it anyway. My bad. ?
Alright, I'll slither out of this thread now and let you all wring your hands freely and without judgment... After this of course:
You are obviously, solidly in the right here dbone...
I mean, you have DieHardBrownsFan and nickers backing you up.
It doesn't get any better than that. ?
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Worst part of this board is how left it is. Ugh.
Worst part of this board is how left it is. Ugh.
All those big words we use are confusing, aren't they?
Just break them down and sound them out.
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Worst part of this board is how left it is. Ugh.
Just go over to the polyboard. You won't be disappointed. All your friends have a wonderful circle jerk going and you will fit right in.?
Just go over to the polyboard. You won't be disappointed. All your friends have a wonderful circle jerk going and you will fit right in.?
Like the leftie fags have going on over here?
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Just go over to the polyboard. You won't be disappointed. All your friends have a wonderful circle jerk going and you will fit right in.?
Like the leftie fags have going on over here?
Like the leftie fags have going on over here?
Remember that time when you got your feelings so hurt that you demanded to be tossed off this board?
Man, what a snowflake you are. That had to be so embarrassing. I'd be surprised you actually came back here after that, but judging by your work here, I highly doubt anyone in your real life wants anything to do with you, so I guess trolling this board is about all you have, huh NeverHardBrownsFan?
That's just sad.
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Like the leftie fags have going on over here?
Remember that time when you got your feelings so hurt that you demanded to be tossed off this board?
Man, what a snowflake you are. That had to be so embarrassing. I'd be surprised you actually came back here after that, but judging by your work here, I highly doubt anyone in your real life wants anything to do with you, so I guess trolling this board is about all you have, huh NeverHardBrownsFan?
That's just sad.
Remember that time when you got your feelings so hurt that you demanded to be tossed off this board?
Man, what a snowflake you are. That had to be so embarrassing. I'd be surprised you actually came back here after that, but judging by your work here, I highly doubt anyone in your real life wants anything to do with you, so I guess trolling this board is about all you have, huh NeverHardBrownsFan?
That's just sad.
You seem infatuated with my being able or not to get an erection. Your girlfriend liked it just fine.
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Remember that time when you got your feelings so hurt that you demanded to be tossed off this board?
Man, what a snowflake you are. That had to be so embarrassing. I'd be surprised you actually came back here after that, but judging by your work here, I highly doubt anyone in your real life wants anything to do with you, so I guess trolling this board is about all you have, huh NeverHardBrownsFan?
That's just sad.
You seem infatuated with my being able or not to get an erection. Your girlfriend liked it just fine.
You seem infatuated with my being able or not to get an erection. Your girlfriend liked it just fine.
I think it is pretty obvious that a man who storms off a message board because of an epic case of butthurt and demands to be banned isn't a guy who is going to be able to give anyone's girlfriend anything "they would like just fine"...
This place is all you have, isn't it? No one in your life pays attention to you, and trolling this place is all you have, right? That's why you had to crawl back here with your tail between your legs... So, so sad. -
You seem infatuated with my being able or not to get an erection. Your girlfriend liked it just fine.
I think it is pretty obvious that a man who storms off a message board because of an epic case of butthurt and demands to be banned isn't a guy who is going to be able to give anyone's girlfriend anything "they would like just fine"...
This place is all you have, isn't it? No one in your life pays attention to you, and trolling this place is all you have, right? That's why you had to crawl back here with your tail between your legs... So, so sad.I think it is pretty obvious that a man who storms off a message board because of an epic case of butthurt and demands to be banned isn't a guy who is going to be able to give anyone's girlfriend anything "they would like just fine"...
This place is all you have, isn't it? No one in your life pays attention to you, and trolling this place is all you have, right? That's why you had to crawl back here with your tail between your legs... So, so sad.Newb.
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A gas cylinder delivery driver that I spend some time at work with, just about every day, and was against getting the vaccine, got covid from his wife and was out of work for 5 weeks. He's in his mid 50's and in pretty good shape. I asked him about it and he told me that he got quite sick and wound up with a fever for 8 days. He saw his Dr. and the Dr. asked him why he didn't get the shot. He said that he knew of people that got the shot and STILL got covid. His Dr. said, "Yeah, you can still get it, but you won't get it like YOU got it". So he told his Dr. he shoulda' got the shot.
This driver's a good enough guy. Loves football (and his Patriots). We talk football all the time. But he's a typical Trump supporter who thinks the government is putting stuff in the vaccine to do harm (or something) to us.
Since the vaccine has come out in the US, and so many people have gotten the vaccine, the number of covid cases and deaths have gone down in the US substantially. It's not a coincidence. Getting the vaccine makes it harder to get covid. I got 2 shots of Pfizer. My arm hurt for a day and a half after the first one. Not even a day after the 2nd. I may have felt extra tired for a day after each.....but I'm 65....so it's hard to tell.
* Your results may vary *
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Hasn't been seen there of late... Apparently he got so butthurt after I gave him a two day kiddie timeout for repeated profane attacks against another poster he sort of left. I try not to waste much time there anymore- it's not a discussion forum- it's a right wing opinion forum. I'm pretty sure one of the posters is a certified QAnon true believer, and there's several others right there on the lunatic fringe. In that regard, from my Moderator POV- I'll just leave them alone. The outcry that I would dare try to keep things civil taught me not to bother in the future. You can post any crackpot right wing conspiracy there with zero fear of being censored for it. Amazing that of late, 53% of Republicans believe Trump is still the President
Not exactly. Employers DO have the right to discriminate against unhealthy practices in their respective work environments. Stuff like drug testing. A lot of places showing up for work stoned or drunk is going to get you fired, no questions asked. On a personal level- my wife (healthcare worker) decided to quit smoking years ago because- the hospital she works at didn't demand it- but if you tested positive for nicotine, you were going to get charged a hefty premium on your health insurance because of your "freedom" to light up.
So in that regard- not being vaccinated against covid certainly does increase your odds of becoming "unhealthy". It's not just well, you'll be sick for a day or two either. I believe Tex had a friend who spent weeks in ICU on a respirator- and I have a wine group associate that was off work for months post covid, and a year later, she's still not close to 100%. So, since you want to have the freedom to not get your covid shot- you're free to look for a job at an employer who doesn't insist on it.
Regarding the NFL- the players aren't being mandated to get vaccinated, but MHO is you're not being a very good teammate if you decide against doing so. Essentially- any of the ancillary staff that decides against getting vaccinated are effectively being banned from any contact at team facilities.
Well then they should tell that to half of the employees at Meyer Snow Products where I used to work... The plant Manager, The Union President , And the plant Foreman were always drunk and stoned by 9 am every morning putting everyone's life in jeopardy... The hypocrasy is amazing... Especially since I incurred a back injury due to some idiots ignorance but got off on the fact my piss wound up dirty.. But here's the kicker.. I never drank or got high on the job like these assholes do.. I always kept my business at home. I had to do 12 weeks of Drug rehab which was a total farce.. meanwhile the plant Foreman was tootin coke all day long...
Well then they should tell that to half of the employees at Meyer Snow Products where I used to work... The plant Manager, The Union President , And the plant Foreman were always drunk and stoned by 9 am every morning putting everyone's life in jeopardy... The hypocrisy is amazing... Especially since I incurred a back injury due to some idiots ignorance but got off on the fact my piss wound up dirty.. But here's the kicker.. I never drank or got high on the job like these assholes do.. I always kept my business at home. I had to do 12 weeks of Drug rehab which was a total farce.. meanwhile the plant Foreman was tootin coke all day long...
Sure, of course- there's places like that with lax rules- especially for supervisory staff... But they're by far the exception, not the rule. Depending on how far back that was- anymore, companies certainly don't want to be held liable should an impaired employee cause an incident.
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Just go over to the polyboard. You won't be disappointed. All your friends have a wonderful circle jerk going and you will fit right in.?
Like the leftie fags have going on over here?
Like the leftie fags have going on over here?
Well then- you don't have to post here. I've actually let the back and forth insulting in this thread slide- for now.
I'm trying to avoid posting stuff on the poli board for a couple of reasons.
1) Even if - I believe there's around three of us- post anything on the poli board that's factual, but not some damn right wing propaganda that's straight out of The Blaze, Red State, or something similar- we get accused of being anti American communists with a bad cases of TDS. Don't dare criticize the Orange Man, but it's fine and dandy to rip Joe Biden to shreds- every day. The hypocrisy is stunning.
2) On a personal level, I've now got a smart ass obsessive compulsive stalker there who has to get the last word in every time I put up a post, and toss in a personal insult on top of it.
3) I've come to realize it's an exercise in futility- regardless how many objective facts you toss out- you're not going to change anyone's mind from their set right wing POV... I just keep seeing the same mantras and whataboutism... over and over- So why bother...
4) And because of me being a Moderator, I feel it's beneath my dignity to mud wrestle with some of the denizens of that board on their level. I'm human- and there's been a few times I've been provoked past my breaking point.
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A gas cylinder delivery driver that I spend some time at work with, just about every day, and was against getting the vaccine, got covid from his wife and was out of work for 5 weeks. He's in his mid 50's and in pretty good shape. I asked him about it and he told me that he got quite sick and wound up with a fever for 8 days. He saw his Dr. and the Dr. asked him why he didn't get the shot. He said that he knew of people that got the shot and STILL got covid. His Dr. said, "Yeah, you can still get it, but you won't get it like YOU got it". So he told his Dr. he shoulda' got the shot.
This driver's a good enough guy. Loves football (and his Patriots). We talk football all the time. But he's a typical Trump supporter who thinks the government is putting stuff in the vaccine to do harm (or something) to us.
Since the vaccine has come out in the US, and so many people have gotten the vaccine, the number of covid cases and deaths have gone down in the US substantially. It's not a coincidence. Getting the vaccine makes it harder to get covid. I got 2 shots of Pfizer. My arm hurt for a day and a half after the first one. Not even a day after the 2nd. I may have felt extra tired for a day after each.....but I'm 65....so it's hard to tell.
* Your results may vary *
A gas cylinder delivery driver that I spend some time at work with, just about every day, and was against getting the vaccine, got covid from his wife and was out of work for 5 weeks. He's in his mid 50's and in pretty good shape. I asked him about it and he told me that he got quite sick and wound up with a fever for 8 days. He saw his Dr. and the Dr. asked him why he didn't get the shot. He said that he knew of people that got the shot and STILL got covid. His Dr. said, "Yeah, you can still get it, but you won't get it like YOU got it". So he told his Dr. he shoulda' got the shot.
This driver's a good enough guy. Loves football (and his Patriots). We talk football all the time. But he's a typical Trump supporter who thinks the government is putting stuff in the vaccine to do harm (or something) to us.
Since the vaccine has come out in the US, and so many people have gotten the vaccine, the number of covid cases and deaths have gone down in the US substantially. It's not a coincidence. Getting the vaccine makes it harder to get covid. I got 2 shots of Pfizer. My arm hurt for a day and a half after the first one. Not even a day after the 2nd. I may have felt extra tired for a day after each.....but I'm 65....so it's hard to tell.
* Your results may vary *
Let's get back on topic.... As to the effectiveness of the vaccines. Said it before- 95% isn't 100% effective. We're seeing more than a few "breakthrough" infections of people who have been vaccinated.. The anti vaxxers will have a field day with that one. Just like this is an "experimental" vaccine. The fact is- the groundwork to to develop it was laid years ago looking for an effective vaccine against Ebola. Speaking of- if covid was as nasty as that jungle rot, you'd have to think there would be a mad stampede to get vaccinated against it ASAP. No political football there.
PS & FYI... One of my good friends was in the trial of the Pfizer vaccine. Take this FWIW according to him.... This vaccine could have been made available by the summer of 2020 IF the FDA had allowed the participants in the study to be challenged by exposure to the live virus. Nope, we can't do that, too dangerous...
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I'm a J&J beta tester. I got the shot about a month ago so I can travel to see my daughter. I can see the writing on the new world wall and want to be able to live normally. I was sick for 18hrs and my resting heart rate went from 58 to 77-80 for 17 days after the shot, it's back to normal now.
I could care less about myself, but my 25yr old daughter was forced to get it in Australia because she works as a health care professional. She got her 1st AstraZeneca shot 2 days ago, and I worry about her future.
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I'm a J&J beta tester. I got the shot about a month ago so I can travel to see my daughter. I can see the writing on the new world wall and want to be able to live normally. I was sick for 18hrs and my resting heart rate went from 58 to 77-80 for 17 days after the shot, it's back to normal now.
I could care less about myself, but my 25yr old daughter was forced to get it in Australia because she works as a health care professional. She got her 1st AstraZeneca shot 2 days ago, and I worry about her future.
I'm a J&J beta tester. I got the shot about a month ago so I can travel to see my daughter. I can see the writing on the new world wall and want to be able to live normally. I was sick for 18hrs and my resting heart rate went from 58 to 77-80 for 17 days after the shot, it's back to normal now.
I could care less about myself, but my 25yr old daughter was forced to get it in Australia because she works as a health care professional. She got her 1st AstraZeneca shot 2 days ago, and I worry about her future.
My kid sister was a part of the A-Z trials and as soon as the Pfizer became available (she is in a med rehab facility) she asked A-Z if she could get the Pfizer. They then and only then told her she was not in the placebo group and asked her not to get it yet so that they could continue to follow her long term. She plans to get the Pfizer as soon as she is released by A-Z from the trials. As Dr. Klotman (Pres.-Baylor Col of Med) advised in his video this week that the residual risks involved with all vaccines is very minimal, but the long term risks of residuals of COVID if you survive are far more risky. He advised anyone with kids 12-17 to get them the vaccine since schools are obviously going to go back to "normal" by this coming school year. One of my kids had his 13 y.o. get the Pfizer because he had severe childhood asthma. The other is going to see if any risks come out for her 12 and 14 y.o. kids, but decide in time for at least 3 weeks before schools resume. She's leaning towards them getting the Pfizer after I told her about Dr. Klotman's research based opinion (not political at all).
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Look what they've done to my thread, Ma...
I'll close this one, h...
EDIT: Well... would if I could, but not an OP option any longer...
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