And We Have Quietly Forgotten About......
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Drew Forbes... Who quietly remains on the roster!
https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/players-roster/drew-forbes/
Drew Forbes... Who quietly remains on the roster!
https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/players-roster/drew-forbes/
Forgot? A better question is: What is there worth remembering?
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Drew Forbes... Who quietly remains on the roster!
https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/players-roster/drew-forbes/
Drew Forbes... Who quietly remains on the roster! I know Dorsey was high on him, so who knows.
https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/players-roster/drew-forbes/
I haven't forgotten him. I know Dorsey was high on him.
He is a guy who may be hurt by the opt out last season. Not that the Browns will hold that against him. Only from the standpoint that others stepped up and he may just find there isn't room for him any longer. When you start to look at the possible numbers the team might keep, and the guys we pretty much know who are going to make the team, there isn't a lot of room. It may come down to versatility and I am not sure he has that.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
Drew Forbes RAS - better than I expected.. Bottom o'the roster churn is always good.
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Drew Forbes... Who quietly remains on the roster! I know Dorsey was high on him, so who knows.
https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/players-roster/drew-forbes/
I haven't forgotten him. I know Dorsey was high on him.
He is a guy who may be hurt by the opt out last season. Not that the Browns will hold that against him. Only from the standpoint that others stepped up and he may just find there isn't room for him any longer. When you start to look at the possible numbers the team might keep, and the guys we pretty much know who are going to make the team, there isn't a lot of room. It may come down to versatility and I am not sure he has that.
I haven't forgotten him. I know Dorsey was high on him.
He is a guy who may be hurt by the opt out last season. Not that the Browns will hold that against him. Only from the standpoint that others stepped up and he may just find there isn't room for him any longer. When you start to look at the possible numbers the team might keep, and the guys we pretty much know who are going to make the team, there isn't a lot of room. It may come down to versatility and I am not sure he has that.
He's west coast dude... Might wind up out that way where hes from seems a logical bet..
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I haven't forgotten him. I know Dorsey was high on him.
He is a guy who may be hurt by the opt out last season. Not that the Browns will hold that against him. Only from the standpoint that others stepped up and he may just find there isn't room for him any longer. When you start to look at the possible numbers the team might keep, and the guys we pretty much know who are going to make the team, there isn't a lot of room. It may come down to versatility and I am not sure he has that.
He's west coast dude... Might wind up out that way where hes from seems a logical bet..
He's west coast dude... Might wind up out that way where hes from seems a logical bet..
I didn't know where he ends up was a part of it, but sure, why not? If he is from there as you indicate ,makes sense to me. All i know is he looked to be a sure bet to make the team last year. It won't be as easy this year. I hope he does. If so, that means we just got stronger along the line. Hard to be upset with that.
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Perhaps Callahan can do something good with him.
What's a Memorial Day Weekend, without viewing a few forgotten Pancakes? ?
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Don’t be surprised if a guy like Hubbard is cut.
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Don’t be surprised if a guy like Hubbard is cut.
Don’t be surprised if a guy like Hubbard is cut.
Ah yes! .. the dreaded June 1st trade or cut list will be coming out ?.. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-june-1-cuts-candidates-for-who-could-be-released/
Cutting Hub? Cutting Hubbard would save Cleveland nearly $3 million in cap space.
The Browns could get better or similar production from a late-round draft selection or even a player on league minimum.
drafting of OT James Hudson lll could be that guy? Greg Senat the other...But lets not just hand out replacements.. Callahan will coach each to 'Win It' !
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Don’t be surprised if a guy like Hubbard is cut.
Don’t be surprised if a guy like Hubbard is cut.
I will be...
Quality, 4-position, OL backups don't grow on trees.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Don’t be surprised if a guy like Hubbard is cut.
I will be...
Quality, 4-position, OL backups don't grow on trees.
I will be...
Quality, 4-position, OL backups don't grow on trees.
Normally I would agree.
1. But He’s 30 and likely has no future with team beyond this year. 30 is an old number considering our roster.
2. We got cheaper younger talent all around him that either have a future with the team (contract wise) and/or have showed enough promise albeit in limited time with the Browns.
There is time to sort this all out...someone could god forbid get hurt and be out for extended time or anyone of the Lineman in the group take a step back during preseason and camp and make the decision easier one way or another.
Our roster cuts have mostly been very easy over the years. Not this year.
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I will be...
Quality, 4-position, OL backups don't grow on trees.
Normally I would agree.
1. But He’s 30 and likely has no future with team beyond this year. 30 is an old number considering our roster.
2. We got cheaper younger talent all around him that either have a future with the team (contract wise) and/or have showed enough promise albeit in limited time with the Browns.
There is time to sort this all out...someone could god forbid get hurt and be out for extended time or anyone of the Lineman in the group take a step back during preseason and camp and make the decision easier one way or another.
Our roster cuts have mostly been very easy over the years. Not this year.
Our roster cuts have mostly been very easy over the years. Not this year.
a/k/a... progress...
1. But He’s 30 and likely has no future with team beyond this year. 30 is an old number considering our roster.
2. We got cheaper younger talent all around him that either have a future with the team (contract wise) and/or have showed enough promise albeit in limited time with the Browns.
First... 30 is not old for an OL... especially one in a backup role.
I see yours as arguments for keeping Hubbard around at least this year... a year in which you and others see as a SB push far more than I. Could be the best $3mm insurance policy Berry takes out this season.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Our roster cuts have mostly been very easy over the years. Not this year.
a/k/a... progress...
1. But He’s 30 and likely has no future with team beyond this year. 30 is an old number considering our roster.
2. We got cheaper younger talent all around him that either have a future with the team (contract wise) and/or have showed enough promise albeit in limited time with the Browns.
First... 30 is not old for an OL... especially one in a backup role.
I see yours as arguments for keeping Hubbard around at least this year... a year in which you and others see as a SB push far more than I. Could be the best $3mm insurance policy Berry takes out this season.
a/k/a... progress...
First... 30 is not old for an OL... especially one in a backup role.
I see yours as arguments for keeping Hubbard around at least this year... a year in which you and others see as a SB push far more than I. Could be the best $3mm insurance policy Berry takes out this season.
I Definitely feel like he’s one of the best options off of our bench this coming season. I think the argument is in keeping him you cut someone we could use this year and the years to come. But let’s see who has gotten better before we make that call. Injuries, regression or improvement can happen between now and early September.
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It all depends on how these younger players develop. If Hudson, Forbes, Hand, Dunn, etc. are really growing and show promise, than I certainly could see the browns dealing Hubbard for a late round draft pick. His versatility has value plus he is on a fairly cheap deal. I could see a team that needs a back-up or someone to step in b/c of injury offer a 6th or 7th round pick for him.
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Hubbard is only 4.9 this year and even if cut is still a 1.3 hit in 2021.
No all-pros are sitting around waiting for a 3.6 salary.
Sure, don't resign the guy for 2022 [presuming other OL are trained into serviceability via Callahan] - but sometimes sitting on hands is the best move a GM could do.
Last year's playoff run showcased the importance of competent depth, and Hubbard was a part of ours then.. KC showed what happens when you get caught gambling with the cap by not investing in bench OL.
And if Hubbard gets signed by someone else for 2022.. take the comp pick.
Only very rarely can you have an actual starter on your bench.. have realistic expectations of those being our backup OL.. mostly it's either reclamation projects / athletic but inexperienced projections [aka Brock Lesnar to the Vikings] / or barely-capable 7th round pluggers who appear useful one game each year because the other guy has an undisclosed injury.
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