The official Terry Pluto thread
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A Terry gem....
Almost made me forgive the Warfield trade...
If you connect all the trade dots, the Browns trading Hall of Famer Paul Warfield led to Hall of Famer Ozzie Newsome.
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As bad as Mike Phipps was, and for as long as he was bad for the Browns, how the hell did they fleece a first rounder from the Bears for him?
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Talkin' Linebacker's...
Berry really likes his addition of Walker.. My concern, is his Mike depth..
SAM 44 Takitaki, Sione 19/3 56 SMITH, MALCOLM SF20 59 Weaver, Curtis W/Mia MLB 54 Walker, Anthony U/IND 51 Wilson, Mack 19/5 42 Fields II, Tony 21/5 WLB 50 Phillips, Jacob 20/3 28 Owusu-Koramoah, Jeremiah 21/2 52 Lee, Elijah W/Det Returning Goodson on a fair deal? or Malcolm Smith fills Mike back-up?
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Talkin' Linebacker's...
Berry really likes his addition of Walker.. My concern, is his Mike depth..
SAM 44 Takitaki, Sione 19/3 56 SMITH, MALCOLM SF20 59 Weaver, Curtis W/Mia MLB 54 Walker, Anthony U/IND 51 Wilson, Mack 19/5 42 Fields II, Tony 21/5 WLB 50 Phillips, Jacob 20/3 28 Owusu-Koramoah, Jeremiah 21/2 52 Lee, Elijah W/Det Returning Goodson on a fair deal? or Malcolm Smith fills Mike back-up?
Just finished the same article... it's a good one.
Returning Goodson on a fair deal? or Malcolm Smith fills Mike back-up?
Smith seems the obvious choice ATM, but I would bet the staff is looking for Phillips to step up and into that role in his 2nd year.
Slide Phillips into the middle + bring in JOK at Will = QED...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Talkin' Linebacker's...
Berry really likes his addition of Walker.. My concern, is his Mike depth..
SAM 44 Takitaki, Sione 19/3 56 SMITH, MALCOLM SF20 59 Weaver, Curtis W/Mia MLB 54 Walker, Anthony U/IND 51 Wilson, Mack 19/5 42 Fields II, Tony 21/5 WLB 50 Phillips, Jacob 20/3 28 Owusu-Koramoah, Jeremiah 21/2 52 Lee, Elijah W/Det Returning Goodson on a fair deal? or Malcolm Smith fills Mike back-up?
Talkin' Linebacker's...
Berry really likes his addition of Walker.. My concern, is his Mike depth..
SAM 44 Takitaki, Sione 19/3 56 SMITH, MALCOLM SF20 59 Weaver, Curtis W/Mia MLB 54 Walker, Anthony U/IND 51 Wilson, Mack 19/5 42 Fields II, Tony 21/5 WLB 50 Phillips, Jacob 20/3 28 Owusu-Koramoah, Jeremiah 21/2 52 Lee, Elijah W/Det Returning Goodson on a fair deal? or Malcolm Smith fills Mike back-up?
Why is Weaver listed as an off-ball LB?
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Vernon gets a lot of credit for essentially dominating a few weak tackles last season I think he had half his sacks against turnstile tackles and a few others getting major pressure pushing the pocket his way. He was dinged up or largely ineffective in his time here.
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Talkin' Linebacker's...
Berry really likes his addition of Walker.. My concern, is his Mike depth..
SAM 44 Takitaki, Sione 19/3 56 SMITH, MALCOLM SF20 59 Weaver, Curtis W/Mia MLB 54 Walker, Anthony U/IND 51 Wilson, Mack 19/5 42 Fields II, Tony 21/5 WLB 50 Phillips, Jacob 20/3 28 Owusu-Koramoah, Jeremiah 21/2 52 Lee, Elijah W/Det Returning Goodson on a fair deal? or Malcolm Smith fills Mike back-up?
Why is Weaver listed as an off-ball LB?
Why is Weaver listed as an off-ball LB?
Yeah, i saw that ?..and wanted to delete it...ourlads
anywho? So I'm rolling thru some of these OTA photos... https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/photos/photos-phase-3-day-6 (the browns website, has photo's from each practice)
Does the boyz, that sat out last season? Look it!
Weaver may look tree leg fat for now? (or just a bad photo look? running the loop, looks better..) Billings certainly ain't missed a meal ?... Senat's a grown as$ man.. Marvin Wilson & Togiai, l?k baller ready coming off a college season...Credit Marvin Wilson & Togiai working back from college injuries too..
I've seen 1 photo from day 1 of DE/DT #58 Malik McDowell... he has not practiced anywhere, since signing
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As bad as Mike Phipps was, and for as long as he was bad for the Browns, how the hell did they fleece a first rounder from the Bears for him?
how the hell did they fleece a first rounder from the Bears for him?
I idolized Paul Warfield. Boy, did I hate that trade. And nothing could make up for it. I was glad that he came back to the Browns organization after he retired. He's a great guy... just like Ozzie turned out to be.
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how the hell did they fleece a first rounder from the Bears for him?
I idolized Paul Warfield. Boy, did I hate that trade. And nothing could make up for it. I was glad that he came back to the Browns organization after he retired. He's a great guy... just like Ozzie turned out to be.
I idolized Paul Warfield. Boy, did I hate that trade. And nothing could make up for it. I was glad that he came back to the Browns organization after he retired. He's a great guy... just like Ozzie turned out to be.
Yeah, my dad is still salty about Warfield getting traded. ?
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Speed is a top priority for the Browns, especially at linebacker. It’s why they were delighted to draft Notre Dame’s Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (JOK) in the second round.
Looking deeper into Berry’s two drafts, he grabbed a speedy Jacob Phillips in the third round of 2020. In the same 2021 draft as JOK, the Browns selected West Virginia’s Tony Fields Jr. (also fast) in the fifth round.
-- I have been saying this. SPEED is what I've been seeing them draft. Peoples-Jones, Schwartz, Felton. They want fast guys everywhere.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Speed is a top priority for the Browns, especially at linebacker. It’s why they were delighted to draft Notre Dame’s Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (JOK) in the second round.
Looking deeper into Berry’s two drafts, he grabbed a speedy Jacob Phillips in the third round of 2020. In the same 2021 draft as JOK, the Browns selected West Virginia’s Tony Fields Jr. (also fast) in the fifth round.
-- I have been saying this. SPEED is what I've been seeing them draft. Peoples-Jones, Schwartz, Felton. They want fast guys everywhere.
They want fast guys everywhere.
All other things being equal... sure...
... but the list of greats who were not "fast" is long.
Fast in and of itself is not enough.
Anyway... that's what we slow guys maintain...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Speed is a top priority for the Browns, especially at linebacker. It’s why they were delighted to draft Notre Dame’s Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (JOK) in the second round.
Looking deeper into Berry’s two drafts, he grabbed a speedy Jacob Phillips in the third round of 2020. In the same 2021 draft as JOK, the Browns selected West Virginia’s Tony Fields Jr. (also fast) in the fifth round.
-- I have been saying this. SPEED is what I've been seeing them draft. Peoples-Jones, Schwartz, Felton. They want fast guys everywhere.
I have been saying this. SPEED is what I've been seeing them draft. Peoples-Jones, Schwartz, Felton. They want fast guys everywhere.
Obviously you haven't been in the tavern during games and DPJ kick returns in particular. Everyone thinks he's a turtle. I know he's fast and ran low 4.4 but I also understand why others say he looks slow. There is just something there where it looks like he is running in quicksand.
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I have been saying this. SPEED is what I've been seeing them draft. Peoples-Jones, Schwartz, Felton. They want fast guys everywhere.
Obviously you haven't been in the tavern during games and DPJ kick returns in particular. Everyone thinks he's a turtle. I know he's fast and ran low 4.4 but I also understand why others say he looks slow. There is just something there where it looks like he is running in quicksand.
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I have been saying this. SPEED is what I've been seeing them draft. Peoples-Jones, Schwartz, Felton. They want fast guys everywhere.
Obviously you haven't been in the tavern during games and DPJ kick returns in particular. Everyone thinks he's a turtle. I know he's fast and ran low 4.4 but I also understand why others say he looks slow. There is just something there where it looks like he is running in quicksand.
Obviously you haven't been in the tavern during games and DPJ kick returns in particular. Everyone thinks he's a turtle. I know he's fast and ran low 4.4 but I also understand why others say he looks slow. There is just something there where it looks like he is running in quicksand.
I believe I may have said something along the lines of "Please take the piano off your back, DPJ..." once or seven times directly after one of his returns.
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Obviously you haven't been in the tavern during games and DPJ kick returns in particular. Everyone thinks he's a turtle. I know he's fast and ran low 4.4 but I also understand why others say he looks slow. There is just something there where it looks like he is running in quicksand.
I believe I may have said something along the lines of "Please take the piano off your back, DPJ..." once or seven times directly after one of his returns.
once or seven times
directly afterduring one of his returns.FIFY....
So.... he's deceptively slow?
I just do not like WRs returning kicks... they simply are not accustomed to running pall mall towards a line of bodies hoping a hole opens.
That's what RBs spend their life doing... that's what I expect to see Felton doing in 2021... early and often.
Punts? Different story... WRs are fine, but shorter, shiftier, quick-twitch types only need apply. I'm talkin' to you Schwartz...
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Terry's latest...
He's hitting the mailbag in this one.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Terry's latest...
He's hitting the mailbag in this one.
Terry's latest...
I agree with Terry that we probably won't see Chubb & Hunt on the field at the same time very often. It worked really well the way they could bring fresh, powerful and fast legs into the game. Especially in the 4th quarter. Hunt would come in and run like his hair was on fire.
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