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The Gipper Rest in Peace

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  • @westside-steve said:

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  • Sorry I couldn't make it- out of the loop on vacation...  

  • Zombo said:

    It should work, other people are using it, does your browser block it?

    I guess you could Zelle me: [email protected] 

    Z

    I would have to open another account to do that. I tried every way possible to get it to accept my paypal to no avail. So instead I will just donate to the BB. Where do I find that link on the BB? Thanks,   Bill

  • @tour2ma said:

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    Straight cash, homey. ?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Straight cash, homey. ?

     I leave home without it...

    ... and write about two checks a year.

  • Bummer man.

    RIP Gipper

  • @westside-steve said:

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    Not to get morbid, but was a cause of death determined?

  • @westside-steve said:

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    Not to get morbid, but was a cause of death determined?

    @tour2ma said:

    Not to get morbid, but was a cause of death determined?

      Tommy was an insolent dependent diabetic, which I'm sure exaggerated his ill health.  I'm not aware of an autopsy but:

    Four of us, fellow Norton high 70 grads, would go out once in a while and have a beer or three though the Gipper, who rarely had more than a pint of Guinness He regularly complained about his acid reflux.  One of our group is an outspoken RN often badgered Tommy about getting an ECG and not listening to his gastroenterologist but to find a cardiologist, since he had seen so many examples of people confusing heart pain for stomach problems. He was having pains that night and the RN made him promise to call for an  Electrocardiogram the next day.  He said he would though he had told us that before. That morning his wife called me saying that she found him dead.  (They had separate bedrooms) No doubt it was a heart attack. 

      A few of us would watch every Brown's game at somebody's house and he would often leave at halftime because he was so worked up. 

    WSS

  • That's sad.  I had another friend some years back who complained to his wife about a upset stomach and told her he was going to lay in bed for a while.  She went to get him for something about 40 minutes later and he was dead in bed.  He was even younger than Tom, maybe 55.

    I think a lot of us guys tend to ignore, or write off some health things we probably need not ignore.  I am not saying Tom did that in this case, sometimes it is what it is,  but I think we all know it is easy to do.

  • Holy shit. I know he and I beefed but this really, really sucks. He was the joker to my batman. I've had his goofy ass on ignore for a while and I feel bad now. Rest in peace gipper. ?

  • That's sad.  I had another friend some years back who complained to his wife about a upset stomach and told her he was going to lay in bed for a while.  She went to get him for something about 40 minutes later and he was dead in bed.  He was even younger than Tom, maybe 55.

    I think a lot of us guys tend to ignore, or write off some health things we probably need not ignore.  I am not saying Tom did that in this case, sometimes it is what it is,  but I think we all know it is easy to do.

    @ballpeen said:

    That's sad.  I had another friend some years back who complained to his wife about a upset stomach and told her he was going to lay in bed for a while.  She went to get him for something about 40 minutes later and he was dead in bed.  He was even younger than Tom, maybe 55.

    I think a lot of us guys tend to ignore, or write off some health things we probably need not ignore.  I am not saying Tom did that in this case, sometimes it is what it is,  but I think we all know it is easy to do.

    1000%

    I lost my dad in 2014. He was 63. He died of colo-rectal cancer and his gastro doctor was livid. If he had just gone for his routine colonoscopy they would have caught it and he would still be alive. The doctor said he could have had it brewing for 10 years. They are absolutely painless and completely routine. I think a lot of this also stems from our absolutely piss poor health care system. Great doctors, horrid system. People forgo care because they don't want to bankrupt themselves and then they die and no one seems to bat an eye for the actual reason why. 

    I still can't believe gipper is gone. 

  • Holy shit. I know he and I beefed but this really, really sucks. He was the joker to my batman. I've had his goofy ass on ignore for a while and I feel bad now. Rest in peace gipper. ?

    @vagitron said:

    I've had his goofy ass on ignore for a while and I feel bad now.

    On the other hand...

    Had you done so earlier he might still be alive... 🥷

  • @ballpeen said:

    That's sad.  I had another friend some years back who complained to his wife about a upset stomach and told her he was going to lay in bed for a while.  She went to get him for something about 40 minutes later and he was dead in bed.  He was even younger than Tom, maybe 55.

    I think a lot of us guys tend to ignore, or write off some health things we probably need not ignore.  I am not saying Tom did that in this case, sometimes it is what it is,  but I think we all know it is easy to do.

    1000%

    I lost my dad in 2014. He was 63. He died of colo-rectal cancer and his gastro doctor was livid. If he had just gone for his routine colonoscopy they would have caught it and he would still be alive. The doctor said he could have had it brewing for 10 years. They are absolutely painless and completely routine. I think a lot of this also stems from our absolutely piss poor health care system. Great doctors, horrid system. People forgo care because they don't want to bankrupt themselves and then they die and no one seems to bat an eye for the actual reason why. 

    I still can't believe gipper is gone. 

    @vagitron said:

    I lost my dad in 2014. He was 63. He died of colo-rectal cancer...

    Same thing that took my Dad...

    ... but insurance was a non-issue as he was older and under Medicare.

  • @vagitron said:

    I lost my dad in 2014. He was 63. He died of colo-rectal cancer...

    Same thing that took my Dad...

    ... but insurance was a non-issue as he was older and under Medicare.

    @tour2ma said:

    Same thing that took my Dad...

    ... but insurance was a non-issue as he was older and under Medicare.

    My dad had great insurance. He was just being stubborn and then got to the point I assume that he was afraid of what it may be and then just never went. However A LOT of people bypass care because they don't want to be underwater. It's easier to die. Our country is broken. Frankly I believe we live in a failed state now. We have a massssssssssive empathy problem. 

  • Zombo said:

    Alright, don't start drawing us in, you're still the Evil Empire.

    Cool dog, though.

    Z

    I've already got your ass zombo. There is no getting away now. Thanks on the dog. His name is Utah after Johnny Utah from the not horrible, blasphemous remake. My kids name is Bodhi. ?

  • Gipper... ? 

    Love ya bro. Give Otto a hug from us.

    I hate that you won't be here to celebrate with us when we win the Superbowl this year. 

    This one's for the Gipper. You will be missed.

  • Zombo said:

    Alright, don't start drawing us in, you're still the Evil Empire.

    Cool dog, though.

    Z

    I've already got your ass zombo. There is no getting away now. Thanks on the dog. His name is Utah after Johnny Utah from the not horrible, blasphemous remake. My kids name is Bodhi. ?

    @vagitron said:

    I've already got your ass zombo. There is no getting away now. Thanks on the dog. His name is Utah after Johnny Utah from the not horrible, blasphemous remake. My kids name is Bodhi. ?

  • @tour2ma said:

    Same thing that took my Dad...

    ... but insurance was a non-issue as he was older and under Medicare.

    My dad had great insurance. He was just being stubborn and then got to the point I assume that he was afraid of what it may be and then just never went. However A LOT of people bypass care because they don't want to be underwater. It's easier to die. Our country is broken. Frankly I believe we live in a failed state now. We have a massssssssssive empathy problem. 

    @vagitron said:

    My dad had great insurance. He was just being stubborn and then got to the point I assume that he was afraid of what it may be and then just never went. However A LOT of people bypass care because they don't want to be underwater. It's easier to die. Our country is broken. Frankly I believe we live in a failed state now. We have a massssssssssive empathy problem. 

    I think that is a big pat of it.  At some point we think/know something isn't right but for any number of reasons we just don't want to face it. Kind of like driving around with your wife and she wonders what that noise is and we tell her not to worry about it, as we turn up the volume on the radio..

  • @tour2ma said:

    Same thing that took my Dad...

    ... but insurance was a non-issue as he was older and under Medicare.

    My dad had great insurance. He was just being stubborn and then got to the point I assume that he was afraid of what it may be and then just never went. However A LOT of people bypass care because they don't want to be underwater. It's easier to die. Our country is broken. Frankly I believe we live in a failed state now. We have a massssssssssive empathy problem. 

    @vagitron said:

    My dad had great insurance. He was just being stubborn and then got to the point I assume that he was afraid of what it may be and then just never went. However A LOT of people bypass care because they don't want to be underwater. It's easier to die.

    Not debating the eco impact of the healthcare decisions of many. It's all too real.

    Different, non-economic dynamic with my Dad, but same bottom line.

    Dad was nearly killed in a head-on collision with a drunk driver who crossed the center-line of  Ridgewood Drive's, "dead-man's curve" in Parma (DieHard and other homies will know of where I speak). The curve was posted roadside as a "High Accident Area" for as long as I can remember. Anyway...

    He was life-flighted from the local, Parma General Hospital and spent about a month in another ICU. Blood tests' elevated white blood cell counts during his hospital stay indicated the presence of cancer, but that info was secondary to his most threatening conditions and ultimately were "forgotten" for a couple years.

    By the time the results resurfaced in a follow-up visit both Mom and Dad had entered into this strange dynamic of not wanting to outlive the other. Part of Dad's plan was ignoring the finally diagnosed cancer.

    Mom survived him by over 20 years... so I guess Dad won.

  • Utah for the dog? OK, I guess...

    ... but Bodhi-tron for a kid???

    That's just weird...