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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @orion said:

    That's funny!  lol   Yup.  We lived through it.  (miss ya Gipper)  We have adults running the show now.  And intelligent ones at that.  'Cos that helps. 🙂

    Not going to be popular, but Haslams also deserve some credit. They made mistakes, but seemed to have learned from them.

    Also probably not a coincidence that things turned when Dee got more involved.

    And of course the constant in the FO thru the bad to the good is DePo.

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    Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by Canton Mike
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    @tour2ma said:

    Not going to be popular, but Haslams also deserve some credit. They made mistakes, but seemed to have learned from them.

    Also probably not a coincidence that things turned when Dee got more involved.

    And of course the constant in the FO thru the bad to the good is DePo.

    This REALLY echoes my feelings! Every time the Haslams erred, they took it on the chin, swallowed their pride, headed in a different direction, & eventually struck gold. DePo is an important piece of that gold.

    We'll see what happens as we move thru the years of retaining the talent we have amassed, but this Franchise is quickly establishing itself among the better ones in the NFL.

    Mike

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      @orion said:

      That's funny!  lol   Yup.  We lived through it.  (miss ya Gipper)  We have adults running the show now.  And intelligent ones at that.  'Cos that helps. 🙂

      Not going to be popular, but Haslams also deserve some credit. They made mistakes, but seemed to have learned from them.

      Also probably not a coincidence that things turned when Dee got more involved.

      And of course the constant in the FO thru the bad to the good is DePo.

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      @tour2ma said:

      Not going to be popular, but Haslams also deserve some credit. They made mistakes, but seemed to have learned from them.

      Also probably not a coincidence that things turned when Dee got more involved.

      And of course the constant in the FO thru the bad to the good is DePo.

      I forgot DePo definitely agree there.  He did a lot to alter the way of thinking and the added perspective has been a welcome addition.

      The Haslems I dunno.  A Broken clock is right twice a day. But They’ve done well or better now of letting others do their job.  

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        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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        ? curse breaker..? 

        Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
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          @orion said:

          That's funny!  lol   Yup.  We lived through it.  (miss ya Gipper)  We have adults running the show now.  And intelligent ones at that.  'Cos that helps. 🙂

          Not going to be popular, but Haslams also deserve some credit. They made mistakes, but seemed to have learned from them.

          Also probably not a coincidence that things turned when Dee got more involved.

          And of course the constant in the FO thru the bad to the good is DePo.

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          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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          @tour2ma said:

          Also probably not a coincidence that things turned when Dee got more involved.

          Cool little confirmation in this article's Top Myth...

          Cleveland Browns Myth No. 1: Dee Haslam is not running the Cleveland Browns

          https://dawgpounddaily.com/2021/06/20/amazingly-stupid-myths-cleveland-browns/5/

          Here's the article from the beginning...

          https://dawgpounddaily.com/2021/06/20/amazingly-stupid-myths-cleveland-browns/

          "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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            D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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            ^ Jimmy likes Elaine. 

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              if you think this is the "dark" side of the NFL then whoah boy you've got a lot coming ...

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                if you think this is the "dark" side of the NFL then whoah boy you've got a lot coming ...

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                lodiloboL lodilobo wrote on last edited by
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                @mld-woody said:

                if you think this is the "dark" side of the NFL then whoah boy you've got a lot coming ...

                It's the name of the show. 

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                  I watched this show the other night, only because it was highlighting the Browns. I thought it was done poorly, and didn't really cover as much as it should have. The one thing that struck me, was the interview with D'Qwell Jackson. I kind of liked him when he played here, but after this, he exposed himself as the loser that he really is. He stated.... not in these exact words, that he was proud to play in the NFL, but didn't really want anyone to know that he played for the Browns. Now, we've all had similar feelings at some point over the past 20+ seasons...even if we don't want to admit it. But...this is different. He's a professional football player....we're fans. I've struggled with the question many times..."How can we be sooo bad for sooo long?" It defies the law of averages. I know we've had bad coaches, bad owners and bad players, but you have to admit that there were some teams over those years that really should have done much better, with the talent they had. This D'Qwell Jackson thing answers that question....well, for me, anyway. Any player...whether rookie or veteran...coming to a new team, with that attitude has no chance to help turn the team around. The stigma that became tied to the Cleveland Browns, has determined the fate of the team since 1999. It probably wasn't that strong with the Tim Couch teams, because those teams showed some heart, but lacked talent. Once the losing set in, players like Jackson determined the fate of the team...at least subconsciously. I have to assume a lot of the players did not want to be here from their first day, and played like it. This explains away all the jinx theories, the curse theories, and the "NFL hates us" theories. We can all debate Baker Mayfield's talent and ability to turn this team around, but from what I've seen, I have to think he has not fallen into that mentality, and never will. Thank God for players like Mayfield and Jarvis Landry.

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                  @lodilobo said:

                  I know we've had bad coaches, bad owners and bad players

                  It's not just specific people -- all professional athletes are extremely competitive and want to win at all times.  The goal is to create a self-reinforcing upward rather than downward spiral.

                  This is the internal culture of any business -- are people willing to collectively realize that we are all the cause of [and can, if we all own our part, be the solution to] any problem?  One model of business change management is ADKAR.. and we can almost pinpoint the dates each element went from red to green.  Kind of interesting to watch as our team went from being a laughingstonk to a case study in transformation.

                  That was originally a typo, but I think it stays..

                  The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                    @mld-woody said:

                    if you think this is the "dark" side of the NFL then whoah boy you've got a lot coming ...

                    It's the name of the show. 

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                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
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                    @lodilobo said:

                    It's the name of the show. 

                    He's kind of dense.

                    https://www.vicetv.com/en_us/show/dark-side-of-football

                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                      ATOMA ATOM wrote on last edited by
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                      damnit i thought this was gonna be a thread about the old darkside forum

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                        nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                        Shouldbe been titled...." The NFL.. The WoKe Sid3 "

                        Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                          Shouldbe been titled...." The NFL.. The WoKe Sid3 "

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                          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                          @nickers said:

                          Shouldbe been titled...." The NFL.. The WoKe Sid3 "

                          You ate paint chips as a young child, didn't you? 

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                            IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                              @ibleedbrown said:

                              I have always HATED this song... GAH!!

                              Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                                @ibleedbrown said:

                                I have always HATED this song... GAH!!

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                                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                @nickers said:

                                I have always HATED this song... GAH!!

                                What a ray of sunshine this guy is, folks.

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