Reasons why the Browns' defense will take them to the superbowl
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I'm still waiting to see if Sheldon Richardson finally realizes that no one will pay him what he thinks he is worth and he resigns with the Browns for far less with a few more years added to keep him. Meanwhile I could not understate the importance of adding an inside presence with Superbowl experience like Malik Jackson. I think he is one of the best FA signings we made for the team and he is only 10 months older than Richardson.
I'm still waiting to see if Sheldon Richardson finally realizes that no one will pay him what he thinks he is worth and he resigns with the Browns for far less with a few more years added to keep him. Meanwhile I could not understate the importance of adding an inside presence with Superbowl experience like Malik Jackson. I think he is one of the best FA signings we made for the team and he is only 10 months older than Richardson.
I believe the Sheldon Richardson boat has burned. This is just my opinion but I believe he was trying upset/hurt by the cut and especially the timing of it. He was after other teams had spent majority of their money in a free agency where the cap went down for the first time in years meaning he's unlucky to get any kind of big contract. I understand why the browns did it but I will also understand Richardson signing with another team for the same amount or less than what he browns were trying to restructure his contract to. If he resigns would I take him? Absolutely, he was our most consistent d line man last year (playing well every game) and the leader of the line especially when Garrett went out. However I wouldn't sign him to any kind of length other than a year. He's 30 years old now and has played a ton of games. That body is going to start wearing down.
Again I believe he will not resign and felt slighted by the team
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Positional redundancy.
Let's call it depth?
Interesting - The Browns are the only team with TWO ROY candidates - Newsome and Owusu-Kamorah. I had no hunch at all that
either one would be available to the Browns in the first round.
https://www.brownsnation.com/nfl-analyst-says-browns-have-2-defensive-roy-candidates/
NFL Analyst Says Browns Have 2 Defensive ROY Candidates
I think Tommy Togiai will eventually surprise us - he has plenty of time to learn and grow behind veterans.
https://dawgpounddaily.com/2021/05/01/cleveland-browns-tommy-togiai-home-run/
Cleveland Browns: DT Tommy Togiai is another home run pick
Let's call it depth?
Interesting - The Browns are the only team with TWO ROY candidates - Newsome and Owusu-Kamorah. I had no hunch at all that
either one would be available to the Browns in the first round.
https://www.brownsnation.com/nfl-analyst-says-browns-have-2-defensive-roy-candidates/
NFL Analyst Says Browns Have 2 Defensive ROY Candidates
I think Tommy Togiai will eventually surprise us - he has plenty of time to learn and grow behind veterans.
https://dawgpounddaily.com/2021/05/01/cleveland-browns-tommy-togiai-home-run/
Cleveland Browns: DT Tommy Togiai is another home run pick
Well, I think every rookie is probably a rookie of the year candidate. I think Chase Young and Justin Herbert won offensive and defensive rookies of the year....but there were other candidates drafted down the line, like Claypool, and Justin Jefferson and Jonathan Taylor, not all of whom were even first rounders.
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Third best defense - interesting opinion - we'll see. Needs time to jell etc.
https://www.brownsnation.com/cbs-sports-analyst-says-browns-have-third-best-defense-in-2021/
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I’m at the point where I can give a flip about rankings. It is more about how we matchup against the teams that will stand in our way of getting to the Super Bow:
KC
Baltimore
Buffalo
Miami (maybe)
Tennesee (maybe)
Indy (maybe)
We are good enough to go to the Super Bowl.
The three at the top of the list what is this defenses answer to Mahomes, Kelce, Hill. Baltimore: How are we containing Jackson and making it hard on Dobbins and can we cover Andrews? Can we bring out wild Josh Allen and contain Diggs?
The season is win enough games to get into the final tournament and do well enough to hold these kinds of weapons in check so our offense can score one more point than either of these three teams. Force a punt, a turnover, make them kick a couple FGs and let the offense so it’s job it is more than capable of...
Our fate is in Baker’s hands if he can take another step (he’ll need the line and his weapons to perform again) you gotta like our chances throwing out all the rankings and records.
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We're gonna see some 4-1-6 D this season... including up to 4 starting caliber CBs on the field at the same time.
Always a factor, but we also have another "-th" for a change... depth...
Actually with Young JOK on the field and either Malcolm or Taki as the solo backer, I tend to think of it as a "Nickel plus" defense.
Actually with Young JOK on the field and either Malcolm or Taki as the solo backer, I tend to think of it as a "Nickel plus" defense.
But the "1" in my 4-1-6 is JOK...
His one assignment? Shallow middle zone with one eye on the QB... 1-1/2 if it's a running QB... 2 if it's Jackson... although he still might not be fast enough in that last case.
There's always the 4-0-7... Welcome to the Will Mr. Harrison!
Add in a DL including MG and Clowney and Takk and I wonder if there has ever been a faster D put on a field...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Actually with Young JOK on the field and either Malcolm or Taki as the solo backer, I tend to think of it as a "Nickel plus" defense.
But the "1" in my 4-1-6 is JOK...
His one assignment? Shallow middle zone with one eye on the QB... 1-1/2 if it's a running QB... 2 if it's Jackson... although he still might not be fast enough in that last case.
There's always the 4-0-7... Welcome to the Will Mr. Harrison!
Add in a DL including MG and Clowney and Takk and I wonder if there has ever been a faster D put on a field...
Add in a DL including MG and Clowney and Takk and I wonder if there has ever been a faster D put on a field...
I cannot emphasize how pleased I am that Berry, Stef and all staff recognize that in defense, speed kills. Got to acquire it and then coach it up right. But without it you're sunk from the snap. And in today's offenses it pushes the limits of any QB, regardless of skill or speed. This is going to be a fun season.?
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Actually with Young JOK on the field and either Malcolm or Taki as the solo backer, I tend to think of it as a "Nickel plus" defense.
But the "1" in my 4-1-6 is JOK...
His one assignment? Shallow middle zone with one eye on the QB... 1-1/2 if it's a running QB... 2 if it's Jackson... although he still might not be fast enough in that last case.
There's always the 4-0-7... Welcome to the Will Mr. Harrison!
Add in a DL including MG and Clowney and Takk and I wonder if there has ever been a faster D put on a field...
His one assignment? Shallow middle zone with one eye on the QB... 1-1/2 if it's a running QB... 2 if it's Jackson... although he still might not be fast enough in that last case.
Wu can handle those kind of assignments...
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Exciting stuff to look forward to - defense.
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Our D is certainly going to be the biggest difference between 2020 and '21...
Have I mentioned lately that I LOVE me some D?
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Our D is certainly going to be the biggest difference between 2020 and '21...
Have I mentioned lately that I LOVE me some D?
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That 2...
You have one more use left... try not to waste it as you did here.
1st use was outstanding, so we know you can do it.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
That 2...
You have one more use left... try not to waste it as you did here.
1st use was outstanding, so we know you can do it.
That 2...
You have one more use left... try not to waste it as you did here.
1st use was outstanding, so we know you can do it.
This use was super and/or duper.
Stop raining on my parade. ?
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Stop raining on my parade. ?
That wasn't "rain".
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Stop raining on my parade. ?
That wasn't "rain".
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Some guys pay extra for that...
Usually you pay double for that kind of action, Cotton.
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I'm back! Miss me guys? Check that, let's not find out.
I definitely missed you guys and I'm back from a little Browns hiatus and I'm ready to talk football. Now, the defense. It's no secret that I absolutely detested our defense last year. I think we won way too many games on the backs of our offense and our defense squandered WAY too many big leads. Leads protected by a timely drive our offense pulled out.
I WANT to give Joe Woods a break. He probably deserves it. He had to play some serious nobodies at key positions at times he shouldn't have, but questions remain. If the defense takes a step, specifically in closing out games, we're serious trouble for people.
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The offense can get us to the playoffs- that was proven last year.
Josh Allen, Mahomes, Lamar Jackson present the challenges to the Super Bowl. We have the personnel to play Woods pressure with four drop the rest in coverage. This style of play is suited to take on the Chiefs and the Ravens- Mahomes and Jackson you get killed if your blitz doesn’t get there and you give up the big play....Although we need to worry about being stout against the run with the Ravens. Whatever Woods did last year against the Ravens just do the opposite.You beat those three QBs above with interior pressure all the great QBs have trouble with pressure in the or face. That’s the next piece with this defense unless with all this versatility we now possess we kick Myles and Clowney inside on some pass rush downs.
three keys this year...1. Health
2. Baker continuing on his path to being a very good QB
3. Luck (not Andrew) but being a little lucky. Good bounce in big game, favorable call in a big game, etc.
The offense can get us to the playoffs- that was proven last year.
Josh Allen, Mahomes, Lamar Jackson present the challenges to the Super Bowl. We have the personnel to play Woods pressure with four drop the rest in coverage. This style of play is suited to take on the Chiefs and the Ravens- Mahomes and Jackson you get killed if your blitz doesn’t get there and you give up the big play....Although we need to worry about being stout against the run with the Ravens. Whatever Woods did last year against the Ravens just do the opposite.You beat those three QBs above with interior pressure all the great QBs have trouble with pressure in the or face. That’s the next piece with this defense unless with all this versatility we now possess we kick Myles and Clowney inside on some pass rush downs.
three keys this year...1. Health
2. Baker continuing on his path to being a very good QB
3. Luck (not Andrew) but being a little lucky. Good bounce in big game, favorable call in a big game, etc.
I'm not sold on Joe Woods.. I think he's pure shit for a DC..
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The offense can get us to the playoffs- that was proven last year.
Josh Allen, Mahomes, Lamar Jackson present the challenges to the Super Bowl. We have the personnel to play Woods pressure with four drop the rest in coverage. This style of play is suited to take on the Chiefs and the Ravens- Mahomes and Jackson you get killed if your blitz doesn’t get there and you give up the big play....Although we need to worry about being stout against the run with the Ravens. Whatever Woods did last year against the Ravens just do the opposite.You beat those three QBs above with interior pressure all the great QBs have trouble with pressure in the or face. That’s the next piece with this defense unless with all this versatility we now possess we kick Myles and Clowney inside on some pass rush downs.
three keys this year...1. Health
2. Baker continuing on his path to being a very good QB
3. Luck (not Andrew) but being a little lucky. Good bounce in big game, favorable call in a big game, etc.
I'm not sold on Joe Woods.. I think he's pure shit for a DC..
I'm not sold on Joe Woods.. I think he's pure shit for a DC..
“Opinion is really the lowest form of human knowledge. It requires no accountability, no understanding."
That's you in a god damn nutshell. When you're asked "why do you think that?" you basically jam your thumb up your ass and go "DERRRR IDK WHY I JUST DO".
You're a fucking clown, nickers. You have the football I.Q. of a squirrel. The only difference is that a squirrel doesn't arrogantly beat their chest like they know what they're talking about.
I'm getting back to grilling, you have a blessed holiday.
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Joe Woods actually did a good job covering for a lack of talent in the secondary and lb's.
The Browns defense was lacking speed. I just can't see blaming Woods and asst coaches for a lack of talent.
This year? I don't see Woods having the same problems. Does anybody, seriously?
The truth is, imho, that Woods has tremendous experience in both the 4-3 and 3-4 and all
the tweaks in between. He did a lot of good things in covering for a lack of talent - it's all you can do.
The Browns know that - that is why they had to fix the secondary and lb position in the draft and FA.
With the talent now? barring a flood of injuries, the Browns defense should be a top five defense.
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/02/04/4-things-to-know-about-new-browns-dc-joe-woods/
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