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  • @sdbacker80 said:

     I’d love to see him lined up next to OBJ and OBJ clears out the secondary going deep and Schwartz is doing a drag/dig route underneath. 

    Dagger concept.

    S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by SdBacker80
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    @tiamat63 said:

    Dagger concept.

    Yes. OBJ long, Jarvis on the weak side drag across the field and Schwartz dig route at the top.  Offensive line capable of giving Baker time
     

    im actually more excited about OBJ the decoy WR than the actual WR although I respect the big play big catch capability. 

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  • @tiamat63 said:

    Dagger concept.

    Yes. OBJ long, Jarvis on the weak side drag across the field and Schwartz dig route at the top.  Offensive line capable of giving Baker time
     

    im actually more excited about OBJ the decoy WR than the actual WR although I respect the big play big catch capability. 

    1AABE37E-5D0C-4A42-93D5-6D88D536D484.jpeg

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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    @sdbacker80 said:

    Yes. OBJ long, Jarvis on the weak side drag across the field and Schwartz dig route at the top.  Offensive line capable of giving Baker time
     

    im actually more excited about OBJ the decoy WR than the actual WR although I respect the big play big catch capability. 

    1AABE37E-5D0C-4A42-93D5-6D88D536D484.jpeg

    There are so many variants and add-ons from a "classic" 2 man dagger that it isn't even funny anymore, especially if you're a DB.    The philly offense (pretty sure this would be from under Frank Reich) and this version incorporates a couple different concepts along with accomplishing a few things aside from being in trips. 

    - The #3 running the over almost makes this a divide concept from the standpoint of the 2 & 3.     The beauty of how complex offenses can be structured post snap and how well they can be executed is really something.   So I presume if your QB and receiver have enough chemistry, that #3 can bend the route as sharp or wide as they both read.   Could turn it into a skinny Po and split DB's, could bend it all the way to the farside numbers depending on coverage.    Honestly even something similar from the #2.  In a 2 man look he runs the influence post with coverage read  (V 2 high V single high, shit like that)

    - The drag is just a nice little addition as well from the backside.  Because if that linebacker over there gets depth without width or walls off that #3 and helps vertical (provided the corner is cleared) then it's practically stealing.    Not to disagree with you on assignment but that's where Schwartz comes into play early in his career.   I'll have juice run that deep dig because he has the chemistry with Baker, the footwork and the experience to vary his route depth as needed.  Most of the time he's the primary in this type of look anyway.    Anthony just gets to be an athlete here, especially going from boundary to field.  You're leading him into space where he can use his god-given speed to get upfield for cheap yardage. 

    edit: Obviously not including something more complex like a combo coverage.  The slot could be man locked,  everyone else playing a 3 deep, 3 underneath.   I'm just spitballing generalities here mostly.

    double edit:  Now I miss NCAA 11 or 2k5 =( 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Yes. OBJ long, Jarvis on the weak side drag across the field and Schwartz dig route at the top.  Offensive line capable of giving Baker time
     

    im actually more excited about OBJ the decoy WR than the actual WR although I respect the big play big catch capability. 

    1AABE37E-5D0C-4A42-93D5-6D88D536D484.jpeg

    There are so many variants and add-ons from a "classic" 2 man dagger that it isn't even funny anymore, especially if you're a DB.    The philly offense (pretty sure this would be from under Frank Reich) and this version incorporates a couple different concepts along with accomplishing a few things aside from being in trips. 

    - The #3 running the over almost makes this a divide concept from the standpoint of the 2 & 3.     The beauty of how complex offenses can be structured post snap and how well they can be executed is really something.   So I presume if your QB and receiver have enough chemistry, that #3 can bend the route as sharp or wide as they both read.   Could turn it into a skinny Po and split DB's, could bend it all the way to the farside numbers depending on coverage.    Honestly even something similar from the #2.  In a 2 man look he runs the influence post with coverage read  (V 2 high V single high, shit like that)

    - The drag is just a nice little addition as well from the backside.  Because if that linebacker over there gets depth without width or walls off that #3 and helps vertical (provided the corner is cleared) then it's practically stealing.    Not to disagree with you on assignment but that's where Schwartz comes into play early in his career.   I'll have juice run that deep dig because he has the chemistry with Baker, the footwork and the experience to vary his route depth as needed.  Most of the time he's the primary in this type of look anyway.    Anthony just gets to be an athlete here, especially going from boundary to field.  You're leading him into space where he can use his god-given speed to get upfield for cheap yardage. 

    edit: Obviously not including something more complex like a combo coverage.  The slot could be man locked,  everyone else playing a 3 deep, 3 underneath.   I'm just spitballing generalities here mostly.

    double edit:  Now I miss NCAA 11 or 2k5 =( 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @tiamat63 said:

    I'm just spitballing generalities here mostly.

    Clearly... 😁

  • KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
    #32

    Schwartz and newsome still not signed...concerninh?

  • Schwartz and newsome still not signed...concerninh?

    ATOMA ATOM wrote on last edited by
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    @kvoethe said:

    Schwartz and newsome still not signed...concerninh?

    not to me they were at ota's and mini camp even tho schwartz was hurt  they will be fine

  • Schwartz and newsome still not signed...concerninh?

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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    @kvoethe said:

    Schwartz and newsome still not signed...concerninh?

    just need a few deals ahead of them to happen...https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/draft/  It should happen close to?

    For the first time in NFL history, there will be a unified start date to the training camps in 2021. Of the 32 teams, 29 will report on Tuesday, July 27. The Pittsburgh Steelers and Dallas Cowboys are two exceptions, with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the third team.

    Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
    For the first time, the NFL will have a unified start to training camp, with 29 teams set to report Tuesday, July 27 -- 47 days before the Sunday of Week 1, as allowed by the CBA -- and plans for league-wide practices and fan events Saturday, July 31.

    Midsummer Madness, anyone?

    The Cowboys and Steelers will face off in the Hall of Fame Game, meaning they can begin camp on July 21. Meanwhile, the Buccaneers will open their training camp on July 24. This is due to the Buccaneers’ first game being played on Thursday, September 9. As they begin their season three days before the rest of the league, they can open training camp three days earlier.

    https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2021/06/27/two-browns-draft-picks-remained-unsigned-a-month-before-camp-starts/

    July 27th.. is the Browns 1st open Training Camp date... they should both fall into place, before Browns 1st training camp practice..

  • Schwartz and newsome still not signed...concerninh?

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @kvoethe said:

    Schwartz and newsome still not signed...concerninh?

    Nah...

    Really the only thing to haggle over these days is % guaranteed... and picks get the lion's share guaranteed.

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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    I have a sneaking suspicion that Schwartz is NEVER going to be healthy. These speed guys are hamstring injuries just waiting to happen. They're so high-strung muscle wise that something seems to always tweak or tear. Lord knows I want to be wrong, but I I wouldn't bet on it. 

    That being said, if he IS healthy, I don't necessarily WANT him doing kicks or punts. I don't want to increase the chance of injury, and kickoffs/punts are extremely dicey. I want to see Schwartz out there running jet sweeps, and especially FAKE jet sweeps. Defenses will HAVE to pay attention to him, and of course I obviously want to see multiple "go routes" per game. He has the potential to open up the field a bit...but he HAS to be healthy for training camp and the season. 

  • I have a sneaking suspicion that Schwartz is NEVER going to be healthy. These speed guys are hamstring injuries just waiting to happen. They're so high-strung muscle wise that something seems to always tweak or tear. Lord knows I want to be wrong, but I I wouldn't bet on it. 

    That being said, if he IS healthy, I don't necessarily WANT him doing kicks or punts. I don't want to increase the chance of injury, and kickoffs/punts are extremely dicey. I want to see Schwartz out there running jet sweeps, and especially FAKE jet sweeps. Defenses will HAVE to pay attention to him, and of course I obviously want to see multiple "go routes" per game. He has the potential to open up the field a bit...but he HAS to be healthy for training camp and the season. 

    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    @jiggins7919 said:

    I have a sneaking suspicion that Schwartz is NEVER going to be healthy. These speed guys are hamstring injuries just waiting to happen. They're so high-strung muscle wise that something seems to always tweak or tear. Lord knows I want to be wrong, but I I wouldn't bet on it. 

    That being said, if he IS healthy, I don't necessarily WANT him doing kicks or punts. I don't want to increase the chance of injury, and kickoffs/punts are extremely dicey. I want to see Schwartz out there running jet sweeps, and especially FAKE jet sweeps. Defenses will HAVE to pay attention to him, and of course I obviously want to see multiple "go routes" per game. He has the potential to open up the field a bit...but he HAS to be healthy for training camp and the season. 

    YEP. Him returning kicks - maybe once in a while, but I want to see him make plays and be a decoy .

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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    Desean Jackson says "hi".  

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
    #39

    Looking pretty dynamic so far. Just seems like Schwartz is destined (has the skills) to

    help make the offense explode. He is blazing fast, and he's making some great catches, and so far,

    displaying solid hands. He's the real deal. Will be intriguing to see how creative the oc is with

    getting him time and plays this season.

    https://www.brownsnation.com/anthony-schwartz-makes-highlight-catch-at-training-camp/

    Anthony Schwartz Makes Highlight Catch At Training Camp

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    This just in… he did not.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    Speaking of special teams returns, Felton had 103 yards in punt returns today.

    The Browns had 115 punt return yards ALL LAST SEASON.

  • Speaking of special teams returns, Felton had 103 yards in punt returns today.

    The Browns had 115 punt return yards ALL LAST SEASON.

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by Orion
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Speaking of special teams returns, 

    ...they did cost us decent field position with illegal blocks in the back a couple times.  Tell you what though, they've got a helluva punter.

  • Speaking of special teams returns, Felton had 103 yards in punt returns today.

    The Browns had 115 punt return yards ALL LAST SEASON.

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Speaking of special teams returns, Felton had 103 yards in punt returns today.

    The Browns had 115 punt return yards ALL LAST SEASON.

    Is that not amazing.. I knew we were bad.. but never thought it was that bad... ?

    Felton came in here with the perfect tude of playing anything

    Kick & Punt Returns

        Kick Ret Punt Ret
    Year School Conf Class Pos G Ret Yds Avg TD Ret Yds Avg TD
    Career UCLA         26 611 23.5 1 0 0   0
    *2017 UCLA Pac-12 FR WR 4 0 0   0 0 0   0
    2018 UCLA Pac-12 SO WR 9 5 105 21.0 0 0 0   0
    2019 UCLA Pac-12 JR WR 12 13 338 26.0 1 0 0   0
    2020 UCLA Pac-12 SR RB 6 8 168 21.0 0 0 0   0

    not a single punt return chance in 4 years of college.. 

    a 6th round pick with his tangibles...  Berry & some scout, nail it on Felton.. i was stoked to see us draft him.. Kid had a great Senior Bowl week