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Cleveland Indians have chosen new name

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  • @westside-steve said:

    Difference between you and me Woodrow is that I don't often like to s*** all over something just to spite people. I realize you don't care about baseball so it means absolutely nothing to you nor does tradition in most cases. You just don't like seniors so you want to f*** with something that means something to them. I think baseball is kind of boring but I do kind of love the tradition of the sport and the history. (PS anybody that was offended by the name Indians is just batshit crazy. They just like attention.)

    WSS

    He's pretty pathetic.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    He's pretty pathetic.

    I honestly don't understand why anyone wastes one second on that limp wristed cockaholic.

  • May be an image of 1 person and text that says 'He's Native American, first one to ever play professional baseball. He PLAYED FOR CLEVELAND they named the Indians after him, to honor his legacy. So if you're offended you're uneducated. 6 Louis Sockalexis Outfield'

  • When anything happens l ask 3 questions. How will people view this now? How will they view it 10 years from now? How will they view it 100 years from now? It’s a mental trick to remove the reactionary immediacy of things and allows me to be ahead of the curve.

    I have a couple bases of comparison. Before my time in the 1950s, my hometown team changed its name from the Reds to the Redlegs. This was due to the “red scare”, and commies were coming to get us, and commies were “reds”, so nobody wanted to be associated with the commies. 

    On the one hand, that’s ridiculous, right? I mean we’re talking about a baseball franchise that had been around something like 40 years before the Russian Revolution. But such was the power of the immediacy of the Red Scare. Once everyone had their fill of fright they changed the name back, but here 70 years later we still use “Redlegs” as a fun interchangeable name for the hometown team with an interesting story behind it. 

    In the 1990s l started my collegiate tenure as a Miami Redskin, but by the time l graduated l was a Miami Redhawk. There were some folks upset about that too back then. And even now, a little over 20 years later l run into the occasional older alumni who’s still a little crotchety about it, but those are few and far between and most people just accept that we’re the Redhawks. And in another 50 years it will be just like the Reds becoming the Redlegs, a footnote with a story behind it.

    This too will eventually be a footnote with a story behind it. And for what it’s worth l am a baseball fan.  

    @ibleedbrown said:

    When anything happens l ask 3 questions. How will people view this now? How will they view it 10 years from now? How will they view it 100 years from now? It’s a mental trick to remove the reactionary immediacy of things and allows me to be ahead of the curve.

    I have a couple bases of comparison. Before my time in the 1950s, my hometown team changed its name from the Reds to the Redlegs. This was due to the “red scare”, and commies were coming to get us, and commies were “reds”, so nobody wanted to be associated with the commies. 

    On the one hand, that’s ridiculous, right? I mean we’re talking about a baseball franchise that had been around something like 40 years before the Russian Revolution. But such was the power of the immediacy of the Red Scare. Once everyone had their fill of fright they changed the name back, but here 70 years later we still use “Redlegs” as a fun interchangeable name for the hometown team with an interesting story behind it. 

    In the 1990s l started my collegiate tenure as a Miami Redskin, but by the time l graduated l was a Miami Redhawk. There were some folks upset about that too back then. And even now, a little over 20 years later l run into the occasional older alumni who’s still a little crotchety about it, but those are few and far between and most people just accept that we’re the Redhawks. And in another 50 years it will be just like the Reds becoming the Redlegs, a footnote with a story behind it.

    This too will eventually be a footnote with a story behind it. And for what it’s worth l am a baseball fan.  

    That's probably true 10 years from now 20 years from now it won't matter. To be honest even though we pretend that it's so important history means nothing. It probably never did in the first place if you have a chance to watch one of the episodes of Robert Wuhl's Assume the Position.

    The people who forced the name change or just modern-day Vandals. The real Vandals in history not the punks to spray paint buildings.

    WSS

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    Never really followed Baseball (Basketball not at all), but the Indians and the Reds were Teams that I'd pull for.

    PC is in overdrive - has been, and always will be abhorrent.

    @jafbf said:

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    Never really followed Baseball (Basketball not at all), but the Indians and the Reds were Teams that I'd pull for.

    PC is in overdrive - has been, and always will be abhorrent.

    Seeing as how Robert E Lee and Stonewall were leaders of armies which fought an armed rebellion against the United States - the very definition of treason - Wendy's tweet is a prime example of needing to think about your tweet before sending it.

    But, as a Reds fan, the concept of a Reds-Guardians rivalry doesn't seem to have the same oomph as a Reds-Indians one.

  • @jafbf said:

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    Never really followed Baseball (Basketball not at all), but the Indians and the Reds were Teams that I'd pull for.

    PC is in overdrive - has been, and always will be abhorrent.

    Seeing as how Robert E Lee and Stonewall were leaders of armies which fought an armed rebellion against the United States - the very definition of treason - Wendy's tweet is a prime example of needing to think about your tweet before sending it.

    But, as a Reds fan, the concept of a Reds-Guardians rivalry doesn't seem to have the same oomph as a Reds-Indians one.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    Seeing as how Robert E Lee and Stonewall were leaders of armies which fought an armed rebellion against the United States - the very definition of treason - Wendy's tweet is a prime example of needing to think about your tweet before sending it.

    But, as a Reds fan, the concept of a Reds-Guardians rivalry doesn't seem to have the same oomph as a Reds-Indians one.

    This is in reference to tearing down of Statues and the rewriting of History.

    No need to think about it, most folk are against that.

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    Seeing as how Robert E Lee and Stonewall were leaders of armies which fought an armed rebellion against the United States - the very definition of treason - Wendy's tweet is a prime example of needing to think about your tweet before sending it.

    But, as a Reds fan, the concept of a Reds-Guardians rivalry doesn't seem to have the same oomph as a Reds-Indians one.

    This is in reference to tearing down of Statues and the rewriting of History.

    No need to think about it, most folk are against that.

    @jafbf said:

    This is in reference to tearing down of Statues and the rewriting of History.

    No need to think about it, most folk are against that.

    if you think tearing down statues of traitors that fought the united states is "rewriting history" then you're in for a shock when you hear books and museums exist. 

  • @jafbf said:

    This is in reference to tearing down of Statues and the rewriting of History.

    No need to think about it, most folk are against that.

    if you think tearing down statues of traitors that fought the united states is "rewriting history" then you're in for a shock when you hear books and museums exist. 

    @mld-woody said:

    if you think tearing down statues of traitors that fought the united states is "rewriting history" then you're in for a shock when you hear books and museums exist. 

    It certainly is. That was Lincoln's doing in the first place to help heal the nation, something that you people are interested in whatsoever.

    WSS

  • @jafbf said:

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    Never really followed Baseball (Basketball not at all), but the Indians and the Reds were Teams that I'd pull for.

    PC is in overdrive - has been, and always will be abhorrent.

    Seeing as how Robert E Lee and Stonewall were leaders of armies which fought an armed rebellion against the United States - the very definition of treason - Wendy's tweet is a prime example of needing to think about your tweet before sending it.

    But, as a Reds fan, the concept of a Reds-Guardians rivalry doesn't seem to have the same oomph as a Reds-Indians one.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    Seeing as how Robert E Lee and Stonewall were leaders of armies which fought an armed rebellion against the United States - the very definition of treason - Wendy's tweet is a prime example of needing to think about your tweet before sending it.

    But, as a Reds fan, the concept of a Reds-Guardians rivalry doesn't seem to have the same oomph as a Reds-Indians one.

    Actually, not true. The south was NOT trying to overthrow the gov, they wanted to leave. secede.

    "treason

    noun

    English Language Learners Definition of treason

    : the crime of trying to overthrow your country's government or of helping your country's enemies during war
  • @jbluhm86 said:

    Seeing as how Robert E Lee and Stonewall were leaders of armies which fought an armed rebellion against the United States - the very definition of treason - Wendy's tweet is a prime example of needing to think about your tweet before sending it.

    But, as a Reds fan, the concept of a Reds-Guardians rivalry doesn't seem to have the same oomph as a Reds-Indians one.

    Actually, not true. The south was NOT trying to overthrow the gov, they wanted to leave. secede.

    "treason

    noun

    English Language Learners Definition of treason

    : the crime of trying to overthrow your country's government or of helping your country's enemies during war

    @calfoxwc said:

    Actually, not true. The south was NOT trying to overthrow the gov, they wanted to leave. secede.

    "treason

    noun
     

    English Language Learners Definition of treason

    : the crime of trying to overthrow your country's government or of helping your country's enemies during war

    That's actually a great Point Cal. When you get right down to it our founding fathers were the traitors. But they won.

    Meaning that the Democrats hatred of treason is at the very least situational. But that's not really part of this conversation.

    WSS

  • I don't think anybody on this board seriously supports the idea that we should have changed the name of the Cleveland Indians but let's say somebody here does oh, and isn't just being an a******..

    For you guys, don't you think it's about time we changed the names of the Tuscarawas or Cuyahoga Rivers? How about the name of the city Sandusky? Or Ottawa County? And what will we change Lake Mohawk to? It never ends, like the outrage of democrats. ???

    WSS

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    Yikes, the Logo even looks very similar.

  • I don't think anybody on this board seriously supports the idea that we should have changed the name of the Cleveland Indians but let's say somebody here does oh, and isn't just being an a******..

    For you guys, don't you think it's about time we changed the names of the Tuscarawas or Cuyahoga Rivers? How about the name of the city Sandusky? Or Ottawa County? And what will we change Lake Mohawk to? It never ends, like the outrage of democrats. ???

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I don't think anybody on this board seriously supports the idea that we should have changed the name of the Cleveland Indians but let's say somebody here does oh, and isn't just being an a******..

    For you guys, don't you think it's about time we changed the names of the Tuscarawas or Cuyahoga Rivers? How about the name of the city Sandusky? Or Ottawa County? And what will we change Lake Mohawk to? It never ends, like the outrage of democrats. ???

    WSS

    Don't forget Cuyahoga County, and river, and National Park.

  • @westside-steve said:

    I don't think anybody on this board seriously supports the idea that we should have changed the name of the Cleveland Indians but let's say somebody here does oh, and isn't just being an a******..

    For you guys, don't you think it's about time we changed the names of the Tuscarawas or Cuyahoga Rivers? How about the name of the city Sandusky? Or Ottawa County? And what will we change Lake Mohawk to? It never ends, like the outrage of democrats. ???

    WSS

    Don't forget Cuyahoga County, and river, and National Park.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Don't forget Cuyahoga County, and river, and National Park.

    Add the state to our West will have to be called Guardiana.

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    I don't think anybody on this board seriously supports the idea that we should have changed the name of the Cleveland Indians but let's say somebody here does oh, and isn't just being an a******..

    For you guys, don't you think it's about time we changed the names of the Tuscarawas or Cuyahoga Rivers? How about the name of the city Sandusky? Or Ottawa County? And what will we change Lake Mohawk to? It never ends, like the outrage of democrats. ???

    WSS

    Don't forget Cuyahoga County, and river, and National Park.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Don't forget Cuyahoga County, and river, and National Park.

    Not to mention Lake ERIE

  • How about the "Browns" ?

    It is the color of perceived racial discrimination.

    Yea, we all know they were named after Paul Brown, but since when has that mattered too these lunatics ?

    Probably further down their list, but they've already got the Redskins.

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  • Security Guards everywhere will protest.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Security Guards everywhere will protest.

    Or maybe they'll love ❤️ it..........or maybe ? not.  Another social media protest !!!

    ......hey Vambo does your keypad smoke when you're done here ?    😆

    BTW I hate the name.

  • interesting. A glimmer of hope they'll have to give it up.

    Most likely a handsome cash settlement.