Pre-Season, week 1. CLE v JAX 7PM: NFL Network

tiamat63

Still waiting to see Felton used from the backfield like Dion Lewis.

Orion

Very, very nice TD catch by #18 Davis!!

TexasAg1969

My only problem with the first half was the Huey flashback I got when they went for the TD rather than kicking the FG to go up by 9.

Vagitron

@typicalbrowns50 said:

Gotta be encouraged with backups on defense. Shut down Jacksonville’s starters for the most part

Do yourself a favor and evaluate individual players. Preseason is sooooooo vanilla. How many times has a team gone undefeated in the preseason to go on and lose most of their games? I guess I’m being a buzzkill but that’s how I view all the Steeler preseason games.

tiamat63

To point this out because I mentioned it early the start of last year - Woods with some different front in our "base" looks with our upgraded personnel.

Hitting it with some blended gap looks in that 4 man under front ala what he did in Denver. Looking forward to breaking those down.

tiamat63

Tommy Togai put on some weight. No way is he 295.

Joe Jackson might make this team over Curtis Weaver.

gumby73

JOK doing 3rd down business ?

TexasAg1969

Kelly dancing around too much. Make a decision and go.

gumby73

3rd team OL... RG Gossett nor LT Alex Taylor look good in pass pro.. Hudson did play well at LT..1 false start

TexasAg1969

I have to say that despite all the hype that the homer announcers are doing, the Browns have played very well with so many starters both sides of the ball just watching the game. JO-K looks like the real speedy LB we were expecting to see shooting gaps.

gumby73

no fan of the candy as$ coverage last set Woods.. coach'em up

gumby73

Kyle keeps playing like this.. he may not get to PS ?

gumby73

Nice finish Offense.. pounded to finish...WR Davion Davis looking legit

TexasAg1969

Overall it is nice to see the depth of this team on display against a team trying to determine it's own starters.

nickers

@gumby73 said:

Kyle keeps playing like this.. he may not get to PS ?

I liked the kid coming out.. He's got some talent...

Orion

@texasag1969 said:

despite all the hype that the homer announcers are doing

Yup. All Jacksonville, all the time. All game long they called FB Stanton, Staley.

How many times did we pass it to the FB? How many times did we HAND it to the FB? #37 Taylor musta' been saying, WTF, why can't I be in there running the ball. - Finally, he did get in. But our OL could not give the RB's much room.

#28 JOK seemed small to me out there. (maybe it's the # he wears)

#18 Davis represented himself well today. He's got an uphill battle. D'E did well. Felton did fairly well. I wonder if they'll let him carry the ball. DPJ did well.

A 20 play, 10+ minute drive for a TD in the 4th quarter. That was pretty cool.

gumby73

@nickers said:

I liked the kid coming out.. He's got some talent...

same here...watched a lot of his Richmond games cause it's a 2 hour drive from me. Lot's of local TV games. Pat Shurmur did him no favors coaching him at giants when he got drafted..

This staff looks to have him back to trusting a playcall spot.. get the ball out & trust your players..

What's crazy is? Philly/Atlanta had him last...Both teams need better back-ups..

Only 1 preseason game.. and Kyle did play well... it was good to see that Kyle again.. Command/Confident in offense/knows the playbook, with getting few camp reps..

TypicalBrowns50

@vagitron said:

Do yourself a favor and evaluate individual players. Preseason is sooooooo vanilla. How many times has a team gone undefeated in the preseason to go on and lose most of their games? I guess I’m being a buzzkill but that’s how I view all the Steeler preseason games.

Noticeable Depth.

and yes, your always a buzzkill

TexasAg1969

@orion said:

#28 JOK seemed small to me out there. (maybe it's the # he wears)

I care not about that. What I saw was a player so quick at shooting gaps that I can hardly wait to see him when the opposing OL is occupied trying to stop the twin terrors wandering around the DL. I am betting that if he sees a lot of playing time JOK will rival those two for total season sacks. The opportunities to utilize his abilities will be innumerable. This is going to be a fun Defense to watch this year barring too many key injuries.

tiamat63

@texasag1969 said:

I care not about that. What I saw was a player so quick at shooting gaps that I can hardly wait to see him when the opposing OL is occupied trying to stop the twin terrors wandering around the DL. I am betting that if he sees a lot of playing time JOK will rival those two for total season sacks. The opportunities to utilize his abilities will be innumerable. This is going to be a fun Defense to watch this year barring too many key injuries.

Something @bjh2130 and myself were talking about in Discord while watching the game that has carried over from JOK's Notre Dame tape - the downhill trigger, the willingness to attack gaps, was never really an issue. Doing it consistently with discipline and within the context of scheme needed some improvement, but flying to the ball carrier isn't an issue with him. What is an issue and literally happened not 2 plays after we were talking about it - throwing any type of misdirection involved with the passing game at him. He voided his underneath hook curl on a bootleg chasing too hard on a stretch flow with his eyes on the back and forgetting where his "home" was.

If I'm KC, I'm going to watch that further. It speaks to what I mentioned when I say how he processes more than just the running game as a more "traditional" WILL backer. That part of his game needs considerable improvement. But in terms of 'see ball, get ball'... ZERO concern there.