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  • @vambo said:

    Full Blown TDS!

    The blood has stained your hands Hoorta!

    ^Full blown BDS-  400,000 Americans dead from covid, masks optional "it's just going to go away". X 26.  THE BLOOD HAS STAINED TRUMP'S HANDS.  Do me a favor, and either inject some disinfectant or ram a UV light up your ass.  

    Pompeo has to be dumber than a box of rocks if he thought for 1\2 a second the Taliban would actually negotiate in good faith. Your hero started the ball rolling for this disaster. FACT. 

    And- as I said before- if the Afghan "army" can't defend their own country- well, you saw what's happened. The Afghan government wisely took the first plane out of Dodge- they knew they were dead meat.  You know- the government the Taliban told Pompeo that they'd negotiate with when they took over?  😁 😁 😁  We'll get as many folks out of the country as we can.  🙁 

    @hoorta said:

    ^Full blown BDS-  400,000 Americans dead from covid, masks optional "it's just going to go away". X 26.  THE BLOOD HAS STAINED TRUMP'S HANDS.  Do me a favor, and either inject some disinfectant or ram a UV light up your ass.  

    Pompeo has to be dumber than a box of rocks if he thought for 1\2 a second the Taliban would actually negotiate in good faith. Your hero started the ball rolling for this disaster. FACT. 

    And- as I said before- if the Afghan "army" can't defend their own country- well, you saw what's happened. The Afghan government wisely took the first plane out of Dodge- they knew they were dead meat.  You know- the government the Taliban told Pompeo that they'd negotiate with when they took over?  😁 😁 😁  We'll get as many folks out of the country as we can.  🙁 

    You've still fucking lost it. Or rather you didn't get it back after you lost it the first time. 

    You have an inability to criticize Biden, period. The best you can do is soft criticism - yeah it was fucked up but TRUMP!

    Dude. Everyone wanted to be out of Afghanistan. That was not the point here. The point was he failed to evacuate the civilians before the troops leading to this absolute shit show where the consulate is telling people to shelter in place and hide so they don't get murdered and afghans clinging to the side of fleeing C17s and falling hundreds of feet to their deaths. 

    Joe Biden absolutely fucked this up because he thought he'd get some fleeting political points for pulling the troops out without giving a single fucking thought to HOW to do it. And predictably you and a bunch of other democrat stans whose internet fandom borders on the obsessive - you're basically nothing more than a fucking Harry Potter cosplayer or a goddamn furry when it comes to political fandom - you have no objectivity that I can see. You've succumbed to, well, standom. There's trump stans here too, before you get your Biden 2020 underoos in a poop soiled bunch, you're not the only one - well anyway the Democrats were absolutely counting on their rabid Stan fanbase to bail them out of this one. It's not their fault it's TRUMP'S! He's ORANGE! 

    The thing is, fandom cools off. There's still twilight stans but they're not as prevalent as they were in, say. 2012. History will not remember Biden well for this. The video of afghans falling to their deaths and the forthcoming executions will far outlive Biden's courageous declarations of "Orange man bad"

    When younger generations think of Vietnam few of them think of Lyndon Johnson's or Nixon's defenses of anything that was done there. 

  • @vambo said:

    Full Blown TDS!

    The blood has stained your hands Hoorta!

    ^Full blown BDS-  400,000 Americans dead from covid, masks optional "it's just going to go away". X 26.  THE BLOOD HAS STAINED TRUMP'S HANDS.  Do me a favor, and either inject some disinfectant or ram a UV light up your ass.  

    Pompeo has to be dumber than a box of rocks if he thought for 1\2 a second the Taliban would actually negotiate in good faith. Your hero started the ball rolling for this disaster. FACT. 

    And- as I said before- if the Afghan "army" can't defend their own country- well, you saw what's happened. The Afghan government wisely took the first plane out of Dodge- they knew they were dead meat.  You know- the government the Taliban told Pompeo that they'd negotiate with when they took over?  😁 😁 😁  We'll get as many folks out of the country as we can.  🙁 

    @hoorta said:

    ^Full blown BDS-  400,000 Americans dead from covid, masks optional "it's just going to go away". X 26.  THE BLOOD HAS STAINED TRUMP'S HANDS.  Do me a favor, and either inject some disinfectant or ram a UV light up your ass.  

    Pompeo has to be dumber than a box of rocks if he thought for 1\2 a second the Taliban would actually negotiate in good faith. Your hero started the ball rolling for this disaster. FACT. 

    And- as I said before- if the Afghan "army" can't defend their own country- well, you saw what's happened. The Afghan government wisely took the first plane out of Dodge- they knew they were dead meat.  You know- the government the Taliban told Pompeo that they'd negotiate with when they took over?  😁 😁 😁  We'll get as many folks out of the country as we can.  🙁 

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    Just think of all those people that fell to their death and will be tortured and killed because ot your TDS

  • @vambo said:

    Full Blown TDS!

    The blood has stained your hands Hoorta!

    ^Full blown BDS-  400,000 Americans dead from covid, masks optional "it's just going to go away". X 26.  THE BLOOD HAS STAINED TRUMP'S HANDS.  Do me a favor, and either inject some disinfectant or ram a UV light up your ass.  

    Pompeo has to be dumber than a box of rocks if he thought for 1\2 a second the Taliban would actually negotiate in good faith. Your hero started the ball rolling for this disaster. FACT. 

    And- as I said before- if the Afghan "army" can't defend their own country- well, you saw what's happened. The Afghan government wisely took the first plane out of Dodge- they knew they were dead meat.  You know- the government the Taliban told Pompeo that they'd negotiate with when they took over?  😁 😁 😁  We'll get as many folks out of the country as we can.  🙁 

    @hoorta said:

    ^Full blown BDS-  400,000 Americans dead from covid, masks optional "it's just going to go away". X 26.  THE BLOOD HAS STAINED TRUMP'S HANDS.  Do me a favor, and either inject some disinfectant or ram a UV light up your ass.  

    Pompeo has to be dumber than a box of rocks if he thought for 1\2 a second the Taliban would actually negotiate in good faith. Your hero started the ball rolling for this disaster. FACT. 

    And- as I said before- if the Afghan "army" can't defend their own country- well, you saw what's happened. The Afghan government wisely took the first plane out of Dodge- they knew they were dead meat.  You know- the government the Taliban told Pompeo that they'd negotiate with when they took over?  😁 😁 😁  We'll get as many folks out of the country as we can.  🙁 

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  • @vambo said:

    Full Blown TDS!

    The blood has stained your hands Hoorta!

    ^Full blown BDS-  400,000 Americans dead from covid, masks optional "it's just going to go away". X 26.  THE BLOOD HAS STAINED TRUMP'S HANDS.  Do me a favor, and either inject some disinfectant or ram a UV light up your ass.  

    Pompeo has to be dumber than a box of rocks if he thought for 1\2 a second the Taliban would actually negotiate in good faith. Your hero started the ball rolling for this disaster. FACT. 

    And- as I said before- if the Afghan "army" can't defend their own country- well, you saw what's happened. The Afghan government wisely took the first plane out of Dodge- they knew they were dead meat.  You know- the government the Taliban told Pompeo that they'd negotiate with when they took over?  😁 😁 😁  We'll get as many folks out of the country as we can.  🙁 

    @hoorta said:

    ^Full blown BDS-  400,000 Americans dead from covid, masks optional "it's just going to go away". X 26.  THE BLOOD HAS STAINED TRUMP'S HANDS.  Do me a favor, and either inject some disinfectant or ram a UV light up your ass.  

    Pompeo has to be dumber than a box of rocks if he thought for 1\2 a second the Taliban would actually negotiate in good faith. Your hero started the ball rolling for this disaster. FACT. 

    And- as I said before- if the Afghan "army" can't defend their own country- well, you saw what's happened. The Afghan government wisely took the first plane out of Dodge- they knew they were dead meat.  You know- the government the Taliban told Pompeo that they'd negotiate with when they took over?  😁 😁 😁  We'll get as many folks out of the country as we can.  🙁 

    Pollster: Biden receives F grade from independents for Afghanistan speech

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-f-grade-independents-afghanistan-speech-lee-carter

    Can't get the blood off your hands hoorta...your vote did this!

  • Rep. Brian Mast: Biden's Afghanistan catastrophe proves he does not deserve title of 'commander in chief'

    Thanks to Biden’s incompetence, American soldiers and our allies are actually going to die

    Hoorta you helped this happen are you proud of yourself?

  • Rep. Brian Mast: Biden's Afghanistan catastrophe proves he does not deserve title of 'commander in chief'

    Thanks to Biden’s incompetence, American soldiers and our allies are actually going to die

    Hoorta you helped this happen are you proud of yourself?

    @vambo said:

    Rep. Brian Mast: Biden's Afghanistan catastrophe proves he does not deserve title of 'commander in chief'

    Thanks to Biden’s incompetence, American soldiers and our allies are actually going to die

    Hoorta you helped this happen are you proud of yourself?

    In fairness I was all for this move. I would have supported it had Trump done it as well. Nobody knew it would fuck up this badly.

    There are plenty of other horrible things that he Tex and woodpecker are responsible for but...

    WSS

  • But negotiate with the Taliban or not? Seems that theme has been raised here before...

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  • @hoorta said:

    What did you want me to say Steve? I said pulling out the troops that fast was a mistake.  It's too damn bad giving a little back story of one of the reasons why things came out the way they did causes conniptions around here. 

    And you miss where I said the Taliban's strength was underestimated, and the Afghan's overestimated?  

    That was all I expected you to say but you launched into a Trump tirade.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    That was all I expected you to say but you launched into a Trump tirade.

    WSS

    Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling?  Hmmm?  Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. 🙂  Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is.  BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. 

    @westside-steve said:

    In fairness I was all for this move. I would have supported it had Trump done it as well. Nobody knew it would fuck up this badly.

    There are plenty of other horrible things that he Tex and woodpecker are responsible for but...

    WSS

    Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks.  This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. 

  • @westside-steve said:

    That was all I expected you to say but you launched into a Trump tirade.

    WSS

    Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling?  Hmmm?  Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. 🙂  Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is.  BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. 

    @westside-steve said:

    In fairness I was all for this move. I would have supported it had Trump done it as well. Nobody knew it would fuck up this badly.

    There are plenty of other horrible things that he Tex and woodpecker are responsible for but...

    WSS

    Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks.  This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. 

    @hoorta said:

    Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling?  Hmmm?  Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. 🙂  Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is.  BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. 

    Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks. 

     that's how it's always been

    This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. 

    I don't know if it's worth going back to check but I hated the Afghanistan war under Bush hated it worse when Obama escalated it. Make of that what you will. But the fact that Cal  obsesses over Obama is your reasoning for doing it now over Trump?

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    That was all I expected you to say but you launched into a Trump tirade.

    WSS

    Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling?  Hmmm?  Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. 🙂  Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is.  BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. 

    @westside-steve said:

    In fairness I was all for this move. I would have supported it had Trump done it as well. Nobody knew it would fuck up this badly.

    There are plenty of other horrible things that he Tex and woodpecker are responsible for but...

    WSS

    Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks.  This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. 

    @hoorta said:

    Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling?  Hmmm?  Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. 🙂  Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is.  BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. 

    Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks.  This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. 

    BULLSHIT!

    This is why I rarely read your nonsense. Biden could have reversed course his FIRST day in office like he did on everything else Trump did FOR our nation.

  • @westside-steve said:

    That was all I expected you to say but you launched into a Trump tirade.

    WSS

    Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling?  Hmmm?  Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. 🙂  Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is.  BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. 

    @westside-steve said:

    In fairness I was all for this move. I would have supported it had Trump done it as well. Nobody knew it would fuck up this badly.

    There are plenty of other horrible things that he Tex and woodpecker are responsible for but...

    WSS

    Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks.  This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. 

    @hoorta said:

    Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling?  Hmmm?  Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. 🙂  Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is.  BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. 

    Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks.  This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. 

    White House makes admission about US weapons in the hands of Taliban killers
     
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    @hoorta said:

    Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling?  Hmmm?  Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. 🙂  Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is.  BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. 

    Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks.  This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. 

    BULLSHIT!

    This is why I rarely read your nonsense. Biden could have reversed course his FIRST day in office like he did on everything else Trump did FOR our nation.

    @axe said:

    BULLSHIT!

    This is why I rarely read your nonsense. Biden could have reversed course his FIRST day in office like he did on everything else Trump did FOR our nation.

    At some point Hoorta needs to stop blaming Trump for all of Biden's mistakes but his TDS is so deep and twisted he can't!

  • @westside-steve said:

    That was all I expected you to say but you launched into a Trump tirade.

    WSS

    Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling?  Hmmm?  Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. 🙂  Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is.  BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. 

    @westside-steve said:

    In fairness I was all for this move. I would have supported it had Trump done it as well. Nobody knew it would fuck up this badly.

    There are plenty of other horrible things that he Tex and woodpecker are responsible for but...

    WSS

    Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks.  This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. 

    @hoorta said:

    Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling?  Hmmm?  Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. 🙂  Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is.  BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. 

    Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks.  This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. 

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  • are Hoorta, Tex and woodpecker dancing around laughing about this too?

    Their votes against Pres Trump and America First.... helped make this horror happen.

    https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/08/16/horror-at-the-kabul-airport-n427145

    Horror at the Kabul Airport

    @calfoxwc said:

    are Hoorta, Tex and woodpecker dancing around laughing about this too?

    Their votes against Pres Trump and America First.... helped make this horror happen

    You are aware are you not that trumpy's plan was full withdrawal by last April. Do you really think it would have been any bit different?

    And concerning the whole endeavor, I see it as very little different from the Vietnam fiasco. A blind man could see it coming for years and

    both sides were involved up to the assholes whenever they were in power. We learned zero from Vietnam and even less from what happened to the 

    Russians in Afghanistan.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    are Hoorta, Tex and woodpecker dancing around laughing about this too?

    Their votes against Pres Trump and America First.... helped make this horror happen

    You are aware are you not that trumpy's plan was full withdrawal by last April. Do you really think it would have been any bit different?

    And concerning the whole endeavor, I see it as very little different from the Vietnam fiasco. A blind man could see it coming for years and

    both sides were involved up to the assholes whenever they were in power. We learned zero from Vietnam and even less from what happened to the 

    Russians in Afghanistan.

    @texasag1969 said:

    You are aware are you not that trumpy's plan was full withdrawal by last April. Do you really think it would have been any bit different?

    And concerning the whole endeavor, I see it as very little different from the Vietnam fiasco. A blind man could see it coming for years and

    both sides were involved up to the assholes whenever they were in power. We learned zero from Vietnam and even less from what happened to the 

    Russians in Afghanistan.

    Give me a break.  It would hve been a lot different.  Biden was told by the intelligence that it would be best to withdraw during the winter.  Not the summer fighting months.  But the demented old fuck didn't listen.  Listen to the Generals and experts on the matter, including democratic appointed ambassadors to Afghan.  They know Biden is a a fucking dipshit.