Tale of the Tape - Browns vs Chiefs
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These "you better be scared of Clowney" posts aren't going to age well, methinks.
These "you better be scared of Clowney" posts aren't going to age well, methinks.
On Clowney, I'm just eating popcorn and giving him the benefit of the doubt. Right now he's something else for a QB to be worried about. Until proven otherwise.
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These "you better be scared of Clowney" posts aren't going to age well, methinks.
These "you better be scared of Clowney" posts aren't going to age well, methinks.
Clowney is the OBJ of the Defense…I expect the defensive unit as a whole will perform better when you account for his presence on the field. His most important stat this year will be games played.
im not expecting Pro Bowl type numbers. If Clowney needs a chip block or a TE stays in on a play or he frees up JOK to blitz and get to the QB…these are invisible stats that will be the difference in our games.
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1. Clowney is a fraud.
2. "as Tampa did"??? What....you mean they dominated the 2nd and 3rd string turnstiles we had to put out there? I love how everything thinks Tampa had a "blueprint" to show how you beat Mahomes.....the Chiefs dominated them in the regular season, when KC had a relatively healthy O line. Even with 5 all new starters....who I am sure will have some issues as they gel....is still a FAR FAR superior group than what they rolled out on Super Bowl Sunday. Mahomes doesn't need a perfect line to be great...he doens't need a good line to be great...he needs some semblance of an adequate line, and he can dismantle anyone. You'll see soon enough.
If Clowney is a fraud why did teams double team him at the highest rate of any edge player in 2019 AND 2020?
This Sunday I’d be more concerned with your new offensive line coming together than we should be concerned about Clowney…but I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…I’ll be excited when the Browns win Sunday…but I’m concerned that the Browns are healthy and peaking when we play each other in the AFC Championship game.
If Clowney is a fraud why did teams double team him at the highest rate of any edge player in 2019 AND 2020?
This Sunday I’d be more concerned with your new offensive line coming together than we should be concerned about Clowney…but I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…I’ll be excited when the Browns win Sunday…but I’m concerned that the Browns are healthy and peaking when we play each other in the AFC Championship game.
.....because he played for 2 teams that didn't have any other notable DL. If you bring 4 you can double someone....and on Seattle and Tennessee, he was the best option. ....I love how you guys think now it will be different! As if there isn't YEARS of tape showing him to be a mediocre player.
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If Clowney is a fraud why did teams double team him at the highest rate of any edge player in 2019 AND 2020?
This Sunday I’d be more concerned with your new offensive line coming together than we should be concerned about Clowney…but I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…I’ll be excited when the Browns win Sunday…but I’m concerned that the Browns are healthy and peaking when we play each other in the AFC Championship game.
.....because he played for 2 teams that didn't have any other notable DL. If you bring 4 you can double someone....and on Seattle and Tennessee, he was the best option. ....I love how you guys think now it will be different! As if there isn't YEARS of tape showing him to be a mediocre player.
.....because he played for 2 teams that didn't have any other notable DL. If you bring 4 you can double someone....and on Seattle and Tennessee, he was the best option. ....I love how you guys think now it will be different! As if there isn't YEARS of tape showing him to be a mediocre player.
Mediocre?... Do you even watch football?.. He's an elite run stopper... Stop embarrassing yourself... Ass!
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.....because he played for 2 teams that didn't have any other notable DL. If you bring 4 you can double someone....and on Seattle and Tennessee, he was the best option. ....I love how you guys think now it will be different! As if there isn't YEARS of tape showing him to be a mediocre player.
Mediocre?... Do you even watch football?.. He's an elite run stopper... Stop embarrassing yourself... Ass!
Mediocre?... Do you even watch football?.. He's an elite run stopper... Stop embarrassing yourself... Ass!
Oh....I guess I didn't realize "Elite" players can't stick on any team year after year and keep signing one year deals. "Elite".
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Oh....I guess I didn't realize "Elite" players can't stick on any team year after year and keep signing one year deals. "Elite".
Again.. Stop embarrassing yourself... FOOL!
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Wow....what a compelling argument. you're right! Furthermore...having a run stuffing end is just what the dr. ordered in a pass happy league.
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Wow....what a compelling argument. you're right! Furthermore...having a run stuffing end is just what the dr. ordered in a pass happy league.
Wow....what a compelling argument. you're right! Furthermore...having a run stuffing end is just what the dr. ordered in a pass happy league.
Were you born dumb? or do you work at it?..... You need to stop both the run and the pass.. I doubt you'll be man enough to come back and eat crow after the Browns whip your ass... The ones who talk the most and the loudest are the most ignorant..
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Wow....what a compelling argument. you're right! Furthermore...having a run stuffing end is just what the dr. ordered in a pass happy league.
Were you born dumb? or do you work at it?..... You need to stop both the run and the pass.. I doubt you'll be man enough to come back and eat crow after the Browns whip your ass... The ones who talk the most and the loudest are the most ignorant..
Were you born dumb? or do you work at it?..... You need to stop both the run and the pass.. I doubt you'll be man enough to come back and eat crow after the Browns whip your ass... The ones who talk the most and the loudest are the most ignorant..
Pot, meet kettle.
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If Clowney is a fraud why did teams double team him at the highest rate of any edge player in 2019 AND 2020?
This Sunday I’d be more concerned with your new offensive line coming together than we should be concerned about Clowney…but I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…I’ll be excited when the Browns win Sunday…but I’m concerned that the Browns are healthy and peaking when we play each other in the AFC Championship game.
.....because he played for 2 teams that didn't have any other notable DL. If you bring 4 you can double someone....and on Seattle and Tennessee, he was the best option. ....I love how you guys think now it will be different! As if there isn't YEARS of tape showing him to be a mediocre player.
.....because he played for 2 teams that didn't have any other notable DL. If you bring 4 you can double someone....and on Seattle and Tennessee, he was the best option. ....I love how you guys think now it will be different! As if there isn't YEARS of tape showing him to be a mediocre player.
Despite double teams he’s been one of the best against the run in the NFL. PFF and opposing offensive coordinators do not share your “mediocre” opinion.
I don’t think I’ve seen any outlandish Clowney opinions in here most are convinced he’s another great piece to the puzzle on defense and are hoping he stays healthy over the course of the year.
Should we think now it will be different? Yes! Should we believe Clowney will be doubled at a similar rate?
So when Myles Garrett breaks the huddle with Clowney and Garrett is lined up on the other end. Clowney should expect the same attention and treatment from Def Coordinators (doubled, pointed out by the opposing QB)?
Our team has some work to do to make sure all these pretty dang good pieces gel. I’m not sold on our def. coordinator But The hope is they can gel enough to play some Jan./Feb. football at a high level.
There are a lot of pieces to work with now. Joe Woods has NO excuses now.
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If Clowney is a fraud why did teams double team him at the highest rate of any edge player in 2019 AND 2020?
This Sunday I’d be more concerned with your new offensive line coming together than we should be concerned about Clowney…but I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…I’ll be excited when the Browns win Sunday…but I’m concerned that the Browns are healthy and peaking when we play each other in the AFC Championship game.
.....because he played for 2 teams that didn't have any other notable DL. If you bring 4 you can double someone....and on Seattle and Tennessee, he was the best option. ....I love how you guys think now it will be different! As if there isn't YEARS of tape showing him to be a mediocre player.
.....because he played for 2 teams that didn't have any other notable DL. If you bring 4 you can double someone....and on Seattle and Tennessee, he was the best option. ....I love how you guys think now it will be different! As if there isn't YEARS of tape showing him to be a mediocre player.
Two seasons where he was injured. Or you forget he had 15 sacks in Houston playing with JJ Watt? Robin to Garrett's Batman. Try doubling both of them, and you're going to give the Browns LBs a free shot at Mahomes.
FWIW, Clowney is a one year rent a player, needs to prove he can stay healty. No way we'll be able to afford him next year.
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You are delusional. When Mahomes has had a healthy line against the likes of Von Miller and Bradley Chubb (the best passrush duo in the league....just ask any bronco fan!) ...or when he had a healhty line VS the Tampa Front during the regular season..Mahomes TORE THEM APART. Unless the Chiefs are starting a 2nd string LT, a 3rd string RT a and a couple 2nd and 3rd string guards...there hasn't been a defense that stops Mahomes.
You all need to worry about what your offense can do to score enough. Your Defense isn't winning the game.....and niether is Baker Mayfield.
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You are delusional. When Mahomes has had a healthy line against the likes of Von Miller and Bradley Chubb (the best passrush duo in the league....just ask any bronco fan!) ...or when he had a healhty line VS the Tampa Front during the regular season..Mahomes TORE THEM APART. Unless the Chiefs are starting a 2nd string LT, a 3rd string RT a and a couple 2nd and 3rd string guards...there hasn't been a defense that stops Mahomes.
You all need to worry about what your offense can do to score enough. Your Defense isn't winning the game.....and niether is Baker Mayfield.
You are delusional. When Mahomes has had a healthy line against the likes of Von Miller and Bradley Chubb (the best passrush duo in the league....just ask any bronco fan!) ...or when he had a healhty line VS the Tampa Front during the regular season..Mahomes TORE THEM APART. Unless the Chiefs are starting a 2nd string LT, a 3rd string RT a and a couple 2nd and 3rd string guards...there hasn't been a defense that stops Mahomes.
You all need to worry about what your offense can do to score enough. Your Defense isn't winning the game.....and niether is Baker Mayfield.
Out of curiosity, should this turn out to be a solid game win or lose - will you be back to admit your football I.Q. is.... lacking?
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You are delusional. When Mahomes has had a healthy line against the likes of Von Miller and Bradley Chubb (the best passrush duo in the league....just ask any bronco fan!) ...or when he had a healhty line VS the Tampa Front during the regular season..Mahomes TORE THEM APART. Unless the Chiefs are starting a 2nd string LT, a 3rd string RT a and a couple 2nd and 3rd string guards...there hasn't been a defense that stops Mahomes.
You all need to worry about what your offense can do to score enough. Your Defense isn't winning the game.....and niether is Baker Mayfield.
Out of curiosity, should this turn out to be a solid game win or lose - will you be back to admit your football I.Q. is.... lacking?
Out of curiosity, should this turn out to be a solid game win or lose - will you be back to admit your football I.Q. is.... lacking?
My football IQ is not lacking...and I'll be back. I've been hanging around here for years.
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I've been hanging around here for years.
Cool.
Also, sorry about what happened to your dick.
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You are delusional. When Mahomes has had a healthy line against the likes of Von Miller and Bradley Chubb (the best passrush duo in the league....just ask any bronco fan!) ...or when he had a healhty line VS the Tampa Front during the regular season..Mahomes TORE THEM APART. Unless the Chiefs are starting a 2nd string LT, a 3rd string RT a and a couple 2nd and 3rd string guards...there hasn't been a defense that stops Mahomes.
You all need to worry about what your offense can do to score enough. Your Defense isn't winning the game.....and niether is Baker Mayfield.
You are delusional. When Mahomes has had a healthy line against the likes of Von Miller and Bradley Chubb (the best passrush duo in the league....just ask any bronco fan!) ...or when he had a healhty line VS the Tampa Front during the regular season..Mahomes TORE THEM APART. Unless the Chiefs are starting a 2nd string LT, a 3rd string RT a and a couple 2nd and 3rd string guards...there hasn't been a defense that stops Mahomes.
You all need to worry about what your offense can do to score enough. Your Defense isn't winning the game.....and niether is Baker Mayfield.
I beg your pardon. Miller sat out all of last year and I saw them play the Broncos in person at Denver in 2018 and they beat the Broncos 27-23 only because a 50 yards P.I. was called on a play in the last two minutes that started well after the playclock had expired (but was not called).
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You are delusional. When Mahomes has had a healthy line against the likes of Von Miller and Bradley Chubb (the best passrush duo in the league....just ask any bronco fan!) ...or when he had a healhty line VS the Tampa Front during the regular season..Mahomes TORE THEM APART. Unless the Chiefs are starting a 2nd string LT, a 3rd string RT a and a couple 2nd and 3rd string guards...there hasn't been a defense that stops Mahomes.
You all need to worry about what your offense can do to score enough. Your Defense isn't winning the game.....and niether is Baker Mayfield.
I beg your pardon. Miller sat out all of last year and I saw them play the Broncos in person at Denver in 2018 and they beat the Broncos 27-23 only because a 50 yards P.I. was called on a play in the last two minutes that started well after the playclock had expired (but was not called).
I beg your pardon. Miller sat out all of last year and I saw them play the Broncos in person at Denver in 2018 and they beat the Broncos 27-23 only because a 50 yards P.I. was called on a play in the last two minutes that started well after the playclock had expired (but was not called).
The playclock on the field is for the fans. The refs keep the official time on the field.
Also...interesting that you remember a 50 yard PI that didn't happen. In fact Denver only had 3 penalties for a total of 25 yards in the whole game. Maybe you should check the gamelog here.....and see if that jogs your memory a little better. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201810010den.htm
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I beg your pardon. Miller sat out all of last year and I saw them play the Broncos in person at Denver in 2018 and they beat the Broncos 27-23 only because a 50 yards P.I. was called on a play in the last two minutes that started well after the playclock had expired (but was not called).
The playclock on the field is for the fans. The refs keep the official time on the field.
Also...interesting that you remember a 50 yard PI that didn't happen. In fact Denver only had 3 penalties for a total of 25 yards in the whole game. Maybe you should check the gamelog here.....and see if that jogs your memory a little better. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201810010den.htm
The playclock on the field is for the fans. The refs keep the official time on the field.
Also...interesting that you remember a 50 yard PI that didn't happen. In fact Denver only had 3 penalties for a total of 25 yards in the whole game. Maybe you should check the gamelog here.....and see if that jogs your memory a little better. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201810010den.htm
You are correct. It was actually a completed pass of 35 yards that should have been called as expired clock. The ref screwed up the timing I can tell you that, because the clock on the field started on time. The penalty followed for offsides by Von miller that set up Hunt's TD from inside the 10. The crowd was booing both plays because they felt Miller had not gotten offsides right after being given that 35 yd gift by the refs. Game over. The point is that he game was that close all the way to the end with a healthy Miller on the field.
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I’m surprised l haven’t yet seen an article playing up the coaching match up. The grizzled veteran Andy Reid vs. the young reigning coach of the year Kevin Stefanski. Throw in some John Dorsey connection and wala, some sports writer meets their quota for the day.
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