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  • Visiting this board Sunday night is giong to be fun.

  • Visiting this board Sunday night is giong to be fun.

    @pat-mahomo said:

    Visiting this board Sunday night is giong to be fun.

    I bet you didn’t go to the Bucs board last February 

  • @pat-mahomo said:

    Visiting this board Sunday night is giong to be fun.

    I bet you didn’t go to the Bucs board last February 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I bet you didn’t go to the Bucs board last February 

    You'd be correct.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    *in the tune of the Jetsons* 

    - Box counts - they're a thing now.

    Box stats always need context.....and the context of this was KC was up 19-3 with Mahomes driving deep into cleveland territory, we had dominated the game in yards and were about to put more points on teh board.....Mahomes got a concussion, we kicked a field goal...and then you guys tried to rally late and couldn't do it.  You mounted 300 yards of offense for the game.  Taht wasn't good enough to beat 3 quarters of mahomes and a little more than a quarter of awful chad henne.  You also played the NFC East last year and went 4-0 in those games with a plus 44 Point differential..  you were 7-5 VS everyone else with a -11 differential.  You aren't as great as yhou think you are.

    @pat-mahomo said:

    - Box stats always..

    You aren't as great as yhou think you are

    #1 - BOX COUNT. Not BOX STATS.   HUGE difference.

    #2 - Yes, I am.  

    #3 - If you have to google or refresh on what a box count is that's fine. But  then circle back to #2.

    I'd bother to do the film, but it would be wasted on you.  Your initial conversation was only to hide your thinly veiled and undeserved arrogance that gave way later.    Me personally, I'd just ban your stupid ass now.  There's enough trash on this board that we don't need the Mizzou type on top of what we currently have.

  • @pat-mahomo said:

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    If these individual QB stars are so meaningful can you explain why you didn’t win the Superbowl? 

  • @pat-mahomo said:

    3rdand6.jpg

    2020pressureclean.jpg

    ClutchMahomes.jpg

    EPABox1920.jpg

    garbagetime.jpg

    VSwinners.jpg

    If these individual QB stars are so meaningful can you explain why you didn’t win the Superbowl? 

  • @pat-mahomo said:

    3rdand6.jpg

    2020pressureclean.jpg

    ClutchMahomes.jpg

    EPABox1920.jpg

    garbagetime.jpg

    VSwinners.jpg

    If these individual QB stars are so meaningful can you explain why you didn’t win the Superbowl? 

    @jcam222 said:

    If these individual QB stars are so meaningful can you explain why you didn’t win the Superbowl? 

    Yes....even as great as Mahomes is....he isn't effective when when he has a 2nd string LT, a 3rd string LG, the worst starting C in the NFL, a 2nd string G and a 3rd string RT play VS the best front 4.  It is afterall, still a team game...and when you are down to the garbage heap for starting O linemen....your team is in trouble.

  • Visiting this board Sunday night is giong to be fun.

    @pat-mahomo said:

    Visiting this board Sunday night is giong to be fun.

    Alright Chief, so since the Browns will not enjoy Sunday, what's the score going to be?

    And you saying you didnt visit Bucs forum post SB, does that mean that if a once in a lifetime miracle happens and the "not as good as think" Browns win, you going to show up here?

    P.S.- you absolutely will lose a lot of arguments here if you want to discuss the game of football. So you come just to talk trash. That could end up being dumb, but trying to match wits with some of the fine people on here and you will get humiliated 

  • @pat-mahomo said:

    Visiting this board Sunday night is giong to be fun.

    Alright Chief, so since the Browns will not enjoy Sunday, what's the score going to be?

    And you saying you didnt visit Bucs forum post SB, does that mean that if a once in a lifetime miracle happens and the "not as good as think" Browns win, you going to show up here?

    P.S.- you absolutely will lose a lot of arguments here if you want to discuss the game of football. So you come just to talk trash. That could end up being dumb, but trying to match wits with some of the fine people on here and you will get humiliated 

    @gunz41 said:

    Alright Chief, so since the Browns will not enjoy Sunday, what's the score going to be?

    And you saying you didnt visit Bucs forum post SB, does that mean that if a once in a lifetime miracle happens and the "not as good as think" Browns win, you going to show up here?

    P.S.- you absolutely will lose a lot of arguments here if you want to discuss the game of football. So you come just to talk trash. That could end up being dumb, but trying to match wits with some of the fine people on here and you will get humiliated 

    I've been here for 3 years.  ....anyhow....final score....KC 38, Cleveland 17.  Regardless of outcome, I'll be around.

  • @gunz41 said:

    Alright Chief, so since the Browns will not enjoy Sunday, what's the score going to be?

    And you saying you didnt visit Bucs forum post SB, does that mean that if a once in a lifetime miracle happens and the "not as good as think" Browns win, you going to show up here?

    P.S.- you absolutely will lose a lot of arguments here if you want to discuss the game of football. So you come just to talk trash. That could end up being dumb, but trying to match wits with some of the fine people on here and you will get humiliated 

    I've been here for 3 years.  ....anyhow....final score....KC 38, Cleveland 17.  Regardless of outcome, I'll be around.

    @pat-mahomo said:

    I've been here for 3 years.  ....anyhow....final score....KC 38, Cleveland 17.  Regardless of outcome, I'll be around.

    No you won't... Your a wimp ass punk...

  • @tiamat63 said:

    *in the tune of the Jetsons* 

    - Box counts - they're a thing now.

    Box stats always need context.....and the context of this was KC was up 19-3 with Mahomes driving deep into cleveland territory, we had dominated the game in yards and were about to put more points on teh board.....Mahomes got a concussion, we kicked a field goal...and then you guys tried to rally late and couldn't do it.  You mounted 300 yards of offense for the game.  Taht wasn't good enough to beat 3 quarters of mahomes and a little more than a quarter of awful chad henne.  You also played the NFC East last year and went 4-0 in those games with a plus 44 Point differential..  you were 7-5 VS everyone else with a -11 differential.  You aren't as great as yhou think you are.

    @pat-mahomo said:

    Box stats always need context...

    @tiamat63 said:

    #1 - BOX COUNT. Not BOX STATS.   HUGE difference.

    Too often Stefanski called plays from behind the chains. ^ ^  Over their first 20 plays, the Browns faced second-and-10 or longer eight times. On their third drive, Mayfield dug them out of second and long or more four times in nine plays before Higgins’ fumble.

    Can Zero count a box via video?

    Our full box of Browns WR's will be making the trip this time, along with D Felton.. Your new interior OL will also need to deal with 2 Malik's .. Jackson & McDowell ? past is the past.. Were excited for this Browns Sunday of new additions !  

     
     
  • @pat-mahomo said:

    Box stats always need context...

    @tiamat63 said:

    #1 - BOX COUNT. Not BOX STATS.   HUGE difference.

    Too often Stefanski called plays from behind the chains. ^ ^  Over their first 20 plays, the Browns faced second-and-10 or longer eight times. On their third drive, Mayfield dug them out of second and long or more four times in nine plays before Higgins’ fumble.

    Can Zero count a box via video?

    Our full box of Browns WR's will be making the trip this time, along with D Felton.. Your new interior OL will also need to deal with 2 Malik's .. Jackson & McDowell ? past is the past.. Were excited for this Browns Sunday of new additions !  

     
     

    @gumby73 said:

    Too often Stefanski called plays from behind the chains. ^ ^  Over their first 20 plays, the Browns faced second-and-10 or longer eight times. On their third drive, Mayfield dug them out of second and long or more four times in nine plays before Higgins’ fumble.

    Can Zero count a box via video?

    Our full box of Browns WR's will be making the trip this time, along with D Felton.. Your new interior OL will also need to deal with 2 Malik's .. Jackson & McDowell ? past is the past.. Were excited for this Browns Sunday of new additions !  

     
     

    I liked that bit at the end about the fullback usage. If l got 1 nit to pick on Stefanski’s offense it’s the telegraphing of plays when a fullback was on the field. If he’s gonna use Janovich l’d like to see more wrinkles in the play calling. Too many times l saw a log jam of bodies gravitating to wherever Janovich was going and it gummed up the works.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Too often Stefanski called plays from behind the chains. ^ ^  Over their first 20 plays, the Browns faced second-and-10 or longer eight times. On their third drive, Mayfield dug them out of second and long or more four times in nine plays before Higgins’ fumble.

    Can Zero count a box via video?

    Our full box of Browns WR's will be making the trip this time, along with D Felton.. Your new interior OL will also need to deal with 2 Malik's .. Jackson & McDowell ? past is the past.. Were excited for this Browns Sunday of new additions !  

     
     

    I liked that bit at the end about the fullback usage. If l got 1 nit to pick on Stefanski’s offense it’s the telegraphing of plays when a fullback was on the field. If he’s gonna use Janovich l’d like to see more wrinkles in the play calling. Too many times l saw a log jam of bodies gravitating to wherever Janovich was going and it gummed up the works.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I liked that bit at the end about the fullback usage. If l got 1 nit to pick on Stefanski’s offense it’s the telegraphing of plays when a fullback was on the field. If he’s gonna use Janovich l’d like to see more wrinkles in the play calling. Too many times l saw a log jam of bodies gravitating to wherever Janovich was going and it gummed up the works.

    Watching Tampa Bay needing a goal line yard? 347lb. Vita Vea wrecked ? blowing up a pile.. I want to see the playbook usage of D.Felton, not used as a Duke Johnson only on 3rd downs too.. I thought Jano won the job over Stanton because of his catching hands? I don't see Jano moving a pile at 230 lbs. either.. If that was the case? Stanton at least gives us 245 lbs going into a pile.. I don't see the usage of Jano over Johnny Stanton quite yet? mainly, If D. Felton is stealing Jano's pass catching reps.. stay tuned..

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    I liked that bit at the end about the fullback usage. If l got 1 nit to pick on Stefanski’s offense it’s the telegraphing of plays when a fullback was on the field. If he’s gonna use Janovich l’d like to see more wrinkles in the play calling. Too many times l saw a log jam of bodies gravitating to wherever Janovich was going and it gummed up the works.

    Watching Tampa Bay needing a goal line yard? 347lb. Vita Vea wrecked ? blowing up a pile.. I want to see the playbook usage of D.Felton, not used as a Duke Johnson only on 3rd downs too.. I thought Jano won the job over Stanton because of his catching hands? I don't see Jano moving a pile at 230 lbs. either.. If that was the case? Stanton at least gives us 245 lbs going into a pile.. I don't see the usage of Jano over Johnny Stanton quite yet? mainly, If D. Felton is stealing Jano's pass catching reps.. stay tuned..

    @gumby73 said:

    Watching Tampa Bay needing a goal line yard? 347lb. Vita Vea wrecked ? blowing up a pile.. I want to see the playbook usage of D.Felton, not used as a Duke Johnson only on 3rd downs too.. I thought Jano won the job over Stanton because of his catching hands? I don't see Jano moving a pile at 230 lbs. either.. If that was the case? Stanton at least gives us 245 lbs going into a pile.. I don't see the usage of Jano over Johnny Stanton quite yet? mainly, If D. Felton is stealing Jano's pass catching reps.. stay tuned..

    Stanton ran that skinny post against the Giants and looked like a pretty natural hands catcher.  And Jano never really had any sort of pass catching Reps…they more or less throw him a bone every other game. 
     

    I was banging the drum for Stanton we may see it if he isn’t picked up by another team. 
     

    I think we are all going to be a little disappointed in Felton beyond maybe the screen game and putting him wide as a pass catcher.  Johnson is far better Option imo in this wide zone run scheme.  

  • @gumby73 said:

    Watching Tampa Bay needing a goal line yard? 347lb. Vita Vea wrecked ? blowing up a pile.. I want to see the playbook usage of D.Felton, not used as a Duke Johnson only on 3rd downs too.. I thought Jano won the job over Stanton because of his catching hands? I don't see Jano moving a pile at 230 lbs. either.. If that was the case? Stanton at least gives us 245 lbs going into a pile.. I don't see the usage of Jano over Johnny Stanton quite yet? mainly, If D. Felton is stealing Jano's pass catching reps.. stay tuned..

    Stanton ran that skinny post against the Giants and looked like a pretty natural hands catcher.  And Jano never really had any sort of pass catching Reps…they more or less throw him a bone every other game. 
     

    I was banging the drum for Stanton we may see it if he isn’t picked up by another team. 
     

    I think we are all going to be a little disappointed in Felton beyond maybe the screen game and putting him wide as a pass catcher.  Johnson is far better Option imo in this wide zone run scheme.  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I think we are all going to be a little disappointed in Felton beyond maybe the screen game and putting him wide as a pass catcher.  Johnson is far better Option imo in this wide zone run scheme.  

    Could be, we all hope not. D'Ernest is similar - but isn't a quick footed elusive fast rb/wr like Felton is. He's more a kick ass fight for more yardage guy. He does have moves though. Felton was a good bit higher rated in the draft. Both of them may very well impress here and there. They both get yards in the rush game - they both mean business at every snap. The benefit is the offensive line to make them more successful at rb than otherwise - so I don't think they will disappoint.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    I think we are all going to be a little disappointed in Felton beyond maybe the screen game and putting him wide as a pass catcher.  Johnson is far better Option imo in this wide zone run scheme.  

    Could be, we all hope not. D'Ernest is similar - but isn't a quick footed elusive fast rb/wr like Felton is. He's more a kick ass fight for more yardage guy. He does have moves though. Felton was a good bit higher rated in the draft. Both of them may very well impress here and there. They both get yards in the rush game - they both mean business at every snap. The benefit is the offensive line to make them more successful at rb than otherwise - so I don't think they will disappoint.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Could be, we all hope not. D'Ernest is similar - but isn't a quick footed elusive fast rb/wr like Felton is. He's more a kick ass fight for more yardage guy. He does have moves though. Felton was a good bit higher rated in the draft. Both of them may very well impress here and there. They both get yards in the rush game - they both mean business at every snap. The benefit is the offensive line to make them more successful at rb than otherwise - so I don't think they will disappoint.

    Said it last year but if you squint you get the Kamara Lite with Johnson…he’s got better vision  and wiggle IMO.  He can get to the edge too.  Colts game big run to ice it 

  • @gunz41 said:

    Alright Chief, so since the Browns will not enjoy Sunday, what's the score going to be?

    And you saying you didnt visit Bucs forum post SB, does that mean that if a once in a lifetime miracle happens and the "not as good as think" Browns win, you going to show up here?

    P.S.- you absolutely will lose a lot of arguments here if you want to discuss the game of football. So you come just to talk trash. That could end up being dumb, but trying to match wits with some of the fine people on here and you will get humiliated 

    I've been here for 3 years.  ....anyhow....final score....KC 38, Cleveland 17.  Regardless of outcome, I'll be around.

    @pat-mahomo said:

    I've been here for 3 years. 

    ...but...but why?  

  • @gunz41 said:

    Alright Chief, so since the Browns will not enjoy Sunday, what's the score going to be?

    And you saying you didnt visit Bucs forum post SB, does that mean that if a once in a lifetime miracle happens and the "not as good as think" Browns win, you going to show up here?

    P.S.- you absolutely will lose a lot of arguments here if you want to discuss the game of football. So you come just to talk trash. That could end up being dumb, but trying to match wits with some of the fine people on here and you will get humiliated 

    I've been here for 3 years.  ....anyhow....final score....KC 38, Cleveland 17.  Regardless of outcome, I'll be around.

    @pat-mahomo said:

    I've been here for 3 years.  ....anyhow....final score....KC 38, Cleveland 17.  Regardless of outcome, I'll be around.

    You obviously missed the point MaHomeboy. You are here to talk trash (i.e. not a Browns fan). That isn't a terrible thing. My point is you have not shown as of this time to want to talk on the actual game of football. 

    Just from this one thread about all you are saying is that "won't enjoy Sunday".

    And your score could be right, heck it could be worse. The point I am making with that question is if the Browns and fans won't enjoy, it will be fun visiting, blowout, etc. What happens if it's a FG game? Then by your standards then the Chiefs aren't nearly as good as you think??? 

    So, you have it as Chiefs +21. So you want to bet any of these fine folks you have gotten into with on that (I'm not a gambler). But I am positive you can find a number who will do that. 

  • something to watch for Saturday afternoon... this from The KC Star..

    Chiefs coach Andy Reid said Friday that Mathieu remains on the reserve/COVID-19 list and missed a third straight day of practice Friday, leaving the All-Pro safety’s status for Sunday’s game against the Cleveland Brown in doubt.

    “We’re just going to see how it goes,” Reid said. “The other guys have practiced and are ready to go. If he can’t go, he can’t go. If he can, then he can.”

    While a player not practicing an entire week normally doesn’t bode well for his availability in that weekend’s game, Reid indicated earlier in the week that Mathieu is the type of player who could see action without practice.

    If that is indeed the case, the Chiefs have until 3 p.m. Central Time on Saturday to activate Mathieu, who is vaccinated, from the reserve/COVID-19 list provided he passes the NFL’s protocols, which include being asymptomatic with two negative tests taken 24 hours apart.

    Signed,

    Chirp! MaHomeBoy Chirp!