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  • Orion OrionO Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    …......... Rush / G   Pass / G   Sack Run D / G   Pass D / G   Sack Give/Take
    Browns 175 3rd 260 17th 27th 67 5th 182 6th 2nd -2
    Vikings 128 10th 310 7th 9th 119 20th 290 27th 5th +1

    Thanks to the complete collapse of the Bears' offense, our D tells a tale.  Our D was credited with giving up 1 passing yard and 46 rushing yards.  We went from 22nd to 6th against the pass.  So, the D stats are all skewed up.  

    The Vikings are strong offensively both rushing & passing.  Their prowess at passing is troubling since defending receivers has been an issue until Fields and the Bears rolled into town.

    If we can exploit their lower ranked defense then this is a game that we can win.  So, it's a game that we should win.  And it's a game that we really need to win because we're at the Charger, followed by the unbeaten Cardinals & Broncos at home.

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      …......... Rush / G   Pass / G   Sack Run D / G   Pass D / G   Sack Give/Take
      Browns 175 3rd 260 17th 27th 67 5th 182 6th 2nd -2
      Vikings 128 10th 310 7th 9th 119 20th 290 27th 5th +1

      Thanks to the complete collapse of the Bears' offense, our D tells a tale.  Our D was credited with giving up 1 passing yard and 46 rushing yards.  We went from 22nd to 6th against the pass.  So, the D stats are all skewed up.  

      The Vikings are strong offensively both rushing & passing.  Their prowess at passing is troubling since defending receivers has been an issue until Fields and the Bears rolled into town.

      If we can exploit their lower ranked defense then this is a game that we can win.  So, it's a game that we should win.  And it's a game that we really need to win because we're at the Charger, followed by the unbeaten Cardinals & Broncos at home.

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      @orion said:

      …......... Rush / G   Pass / G   Sack Run D / G   Pass D / G   Sack Give/Take
      Browns 175 3rd 260 17th 27th 67 5th 182 6th 2nd -2
      Vikings 128 10th 310 7th 9th 119 20th 290 27th 5th +1

      If we can exploit their lower ranked defense then this is a game that we can win.  So, it's a game that we should win.  And it's a game that we really need to win because we're at the Charger, followed by the unbeaten Cardinals & Broncos at home.

      Agree. I have a feeling it will be a shootout type game. The Vikings definitely have some weapons. 

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        Vikings CB are castoffs from other teams - Peterson and Breeland were almost perfectly useless last week, giving up 13 catches on 15 targets.

        Vikings spent a lot on IDL -- Michael Pierce [9M] and Dalvin Tomlinson [10.5] are both PFF 70 rated.

        Fun facts: Sheldon Richardson is not balling.  Malik McDowell is.

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          S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by SdBacker80
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          Yeah Breeland Has been awful…we can pick on him.

          The Vikes have been exposed by cutback runs.  You gotta be right in that regard when you play the Browns.

          Maybe I’m too overconfident…but I like this matchup our O vs their D.


          The questions this week..
          Can the Browns confuse and pressure Cousins?  We have to watch our pressure too they use the screen game really well 

          Can Newsome hold up against Thielen?

          Can our run defense show out like they have in the first three games? 

          I think we are good for a win if we get 2 of the 3.

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            Yeah Breeland Has been awful…we can pick on him.

            The Vikes have been exposed by cutback runs.  You gotta be right in that regard when you play the Browns.

            Maybe I’m too overconfident…but I like this matchup our O vs their D.


            The questions this week..
            Can the Browns confuse and pressure Cousins?  We have to watch our pressure too they use the screen game really well 

            Can Newsome hold up against Thielen?

            Can our run defense show out like they have in the first three games? 

            I think we are good for a win if we get 2 of the 3.

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            @sdbacker80 said:

            Yeah Breeland Has been awful…we can pick on him.

            The Vikes have been exposed by cutback runs.  You gotta be right in that regard when you play the Browns.

            Maybe I’m too overconfident…but I like this matchup our O vs their D.


            The questions this week..
            Can the Browns confuse and pressure Cousins?

            Can Newsome hold up against Thielen?

            Can our run defense show out like they have in the first three games? 

            I think we are good for a win if we get 2 of the 3.

            Kirk Cousins doesn't scare anyone... He's average

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              @sdbacker80 said:

              Yeah Breeland Has been awful…we can pick on him.

              The Vikes have been exposed by cutback runs.  You gotta be right in that regard when you play the Browns.

              Maybe I’m too overconfident…but I like this matchup our O vs their D.


              The questions this week..
              Can the Browns confuse and pressure Cousins?

              Can Newsome hold up against Thielen?

              Can our run defense show out like they have in the first three games? 

              I think we are good for a win if we get 2 of the 3.

              Kirk Cousins doesn't scare anyone... He's average

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              S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by SdBacker80
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              @nickers said:

              Kirk Cousins doesn't scare anyone... He's average

              Neither does Baker if you ask other teams…but Cousins uses his weapons well and plays a scheme perfectly fit for him that doesn’t ask too much in regard to showcasing arm talent.

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                @nickers said:

                Kirk Cousins doesn't scare anyone... He's average

                Neither does Baker if you ask other teams…but Cousins uses his weapons well and plays a scheme perfectly fit for him that doesn’t ask too much in regard to showcasing arm talent.

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                @sdbacker80 said:

                Neither does Baker if you ask other teams…but he uses his weapons well and plays a scheme perfectly fit for him that doesn’t ask too much in regard to showcasing arm talent.

                Except Baker is 10x's more athletic and accurate...

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                  Vikings being 4th in the league in passpro efficiency also helps. 

                  Of course, Vikings opponents to date have been the Bengals, Cardinals, and Seahawks.. and only the Cards have anyone more than just another guy on the DL.  Yes, you can only play who the schedule tells you, but you have to scroll pretty far to get to Vikings OL preview

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                    @sdbacker80 said:

                    Neither does Baker if you ask other teams…but he uses his weapons well and plays a scheme perfectly fit for him that doesn’t ask too much in regard to showcasing arm talent.

                    Except Baker is 10x's more athletic and accurate...

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                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                    @nickers said:

                    Except Baker is 10x's more athletic and accurate...

                    Cousins has a career completion percentage that is 5% higher than Baker's, while also throwing for slightly more yards per attempt.

                    But sure, he's more athletic, I suppose.

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                      OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                      Cousins is no pushover.  He's been playing quite a while now.  He won't be holding the ball as long as Fields did.

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                        Cousins is no pushover.  He's been playing quite a while now.  He won't be holding the ball as long as Fields did.

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                        @orion said:

                        Cousins is no pushover.  He's been playing quite a while now.  He won't be holding the ball as long as Fields did.

                        The Vikings offense is a legit professional unit.

                        The Bears offense Sunday was a trainwreck. Rookie QB with a coaching staff who did him zero favors behind a Swiss Cheese OLine.

                        The Vikings offense will be an interesting challenge for the Browns defense. 

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                          Is Cook running the ball?  If he is, the defense will have a big time challenge 

                          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                            Is Cook running the ball?  If he is, the defense will have a big time challenge 

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                            @browns149 said:

                            Is Cook running the ball?  If he is, the defense will have a big time challenge 

                            He sat out last week. 

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                              @browns149 said:

                              Is Cook running the ball?  If he is, the defense will have a big time challenge 

                              He sat out last week. 

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                              @dutch-oven said:

                              He sat out last week. 

                              Is Minnesota a dome again?

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                              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                @browns149 said:

                                Is Cook running the ball?  If he is, the defense will have a big time challenge 

                                He sat out last week. 

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                                @dutch-oven said:

                                He sat out last week. 

                                Can’t find an updated report until Wednesday 

                                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                  @dutch-oven said:

                                  He sat out last week. 

                                  Can’t find an updated report until Wednesday 

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                                  @browns149 said:

                                  Can’t find an updated report until Wednesday 

                                  Yeah, I was trying to find something updated for you, but no dice. 

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    He sat out last week. 

                                    Is Minnesota a dome again?

                                    I

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                                    @browns149 said:

                                    Is Minnesota a dome again?

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                                    Yes.

                                    It is a fixed dome too, not retractable. It's always closed. 

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                                      Is Cook running the ball?  If he is, the defense will have a big time challenge 

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                                      @browns149 said:

                                      Is Cook running the ball?  If he is, the defense will have a big time challenge 

                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      He sat out last week. 

                                      And Mattison is no slouch 

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                                        @browns149 said:

                                        Can’t find an updated report until Wednesday 

                                        Yeah, I was trying to find something updated for you, but no dice. 

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                                        @dutch-oven said:

                                        Yeah, I was trying to find something updated for you, but no dice. 

                                        I think the ir report doesn’t have to come out until Wednesday 

                                        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                          @browns149 said:

                                          Is Minnesota a dome again?

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                                          Yes.

                                          It is a fixed dome too, not retractable. It's always closed. 

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                                          @dutch-oven said:

                                          Yes.

                                          It is a fixed dome too, not retractable. It's always closed. 

                                          I guess we will see how fast the Browns are this Sunday 

                                          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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