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  • Orion OrionO Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    All we've heard all offseason is how great the Browns offensive line is.  

    So, it's 4 weeks into the season and the line has been hit by injuries.  Fortunately, only one starter is gimpy but it's our left tackle, first round pick.  And Wills had an mri yesterday and still today nobody knows the results.  That's scary because if he's going to be out, his backup has been out (unless Hubbard can come back this week).  Last week we played our 2021,  110th overall pick at left tackle when Wills went out.

    And today Nick Harris was put on IR (followed by the team signing a guard off somebody's practice squad).  So, I'll ask, Who's our backup center?

    Our OL cannot take any more injuries because we are razor thin on the bench.  And although the OL helps Chubb and Hunt get their yards, it's Baker that needs the OL much more.  He needs a clean pocket in order to make accurate throws.  If he feels pressured, he's gonna sail it high...and some of them will start landing in someone's arms instead of the ground.

    It's a loong season.  And our remaining starters have got to stay healthy for all of it.

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      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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      https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/10/browns-offensive-grades-vs-the-vikings-who-was-elite-average-and-replaceable.html

      "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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        IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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        Dunn and Hance played some center in preseason. I honestly might be more confidant with one of them over Harris anyway, although l’m not sure they’ll be as agile as either Tretter or Harris. Stef seems to like a center who can pull.

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          https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/10/browns-offensive-grades-vs-the-vikings-who-was-elite-average-and-replaceable.html

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          IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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          @tour2ma said:

          https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/10/browns-offensive-grades-vs-the-vikings-who-was-elite-average-and-replaceable.html

          I’m hitting a paywall with this.

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            Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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            I'd like to see the Browns add some young OLinemen in the upcoming offseason, especially if you consider the ages, contract statuses and salaries of Tretter, Bitonio, and Conklin.

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              gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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              This again? ?

              JC Tretter has not missed a NFL start in 5 years with tBrowns (68 of 68 games)... They'd have to remove a knee before he misses a game..(search GB) He will be on the injury report tomarrow & until he retires ? don't sweat it... ? (Sunday will be Tretter's 100th career game)

              Sweat who play's LT  ?.. And Bosa will take a swing at both// (Garrett/Clowney ain't a bad moving practice bag) 

              both Dunn & Hance play back-up Center... a true coaches decision... & Callahan's :- )   (sign Teller & find a Center... Harris ain't it)

              Bill Callahan pressers, speaks large of Coach Peters.. https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/how-scott-peters-has-used-his-deep-mma-knowledge-to-help-make-the-browns-o-line-

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                This again? ?

                JC Tretter has not missed a NFL start in 5 years with tBrowns (68 of 68 games)... They'd have to remove a knee before he misses a game..(search GB) He will be on the injury report tomarrow & until he retires ? don't sweat it... ? (Sunday will be Tretter's 100th career game)

                Sweat who play's LT  ?.. And Bosa will take a swing at both// (Garrett/Clowney ain't a bad moving practice bag) 

                both Dunn & Hance play back-up Center... a true coaches decision... & Callahan's :- )   (sign Teller & find a Center... Harris ain't it)

                Bill Callahan pressers, speaks large of Coach Peters.. https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/how-scott-peters-has-used-his-deep-mma-knowledge-to-help-make-the-browns-o-line-

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                OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by Orion
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                @gumby73 said:

                 (sign Teller & find a Center... Harris ain't it)

                He doesn't appear to be.  He's small and regularly hurt.

                ...Tretter is a trooper.  He played hurt last year.  What did he have?  High ankle?   Anyhow, he wasn't as good as he was when healthy.  Our OL was banged up bad last year, with Baker introducing himself to a starting lineman the day before the game.  And Conklin was gimpy for a while.  It just seems that we're headed towards that slippery slope.  And I'm afraid of the current state of our backup talent right now.

                @dutch-oven said:

                I'd like to see the Browns add some young OLinemen in the upcoming offseason, especially if you consider the ages, contract statuses and salaries

                Yup.  Gotta keep churning the backups until you have guys talented enough to take over a spot, for good, if need be.

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                  EastSideDawgE EastSideDawg wrote on last edited by
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                  the truth is the Oline hasnt played well this year especially in pass pro.   last year the browns gave up 26 sacks for the season.  This year they are on pace to give up 50+ sacks for the season.

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                    Dunn and Hance played some center in preseason. I honestly might be more confidant with one of them over Harris anyway, although l’m not sure they’ll be as agile as either Tretter or Harris. Stef seems to like a center who can pull.

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                    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                    @ibleedbrown said:

                    Dunn and Hance played some center in preseason. I honestly might be more confidant with one of them over Harris anyway, although l’m not sure they’ll be as agile as either Tretter or Harris. Stef seems to like a center who can pull.

                    I agree.  I don't think Harris is the answer to anything.  I just don't think he is big enough.

                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                      T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                      When you only score 14 then you can expect poor grades all across the offense. Only surprise is Bitonio though we have come to count on that from him every week.

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                        S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
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                        LT playing hurt, Center doesn’t practice all week, lack of a vertical passing threat lately and everyone knows about our intentions to run the ball.  Yet we do it well and we’ve given the QB solid protection to scan the field and throw errant passes way down the field.

                        Maybe if we replace Mayfield with Tribusky the line will block better  

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                          @ibleedbrown said:

                          Dunn and Hance played some center in preseason. I honestly might be more confidant with one of them over Harris anyway, although l’m not sure they’ll be as agile as either Tretter or Harris. Stef seems to like a center who can pull.

                          I agree.  I don't think Harris is the answer to anything.  I just don't think he is big enough.

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          @ballpeen said:

                          I agree.  I don't think Harris is the answer to anything.  I just don't think he is big enough.

                          Harris went to IR. Browns add an OG.

                          https://www.brownsnation.com/browns-add-guard-hjalte-froholdt-move-nick-harris-to-ir/

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                            U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by
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                            Anybody watch OBR's study of the OL and DL last night?

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                              The G signed replacing Harris is Hjalte Froholdt from Texans PS.  He did pretty well in 2020 in his 61 snaps; none in 2021 so far.  Not making Texans bench isn't a great sign.

                              Depth at present is Hudson, Dunn, Hance, Froholdt.  Also those 3 UDFA's are being looked at.

                              Drew Forbes had a serious knee injury and is also on IR.. unless injury settlement results in him returning in 2022 we've seen the last of him bc he was 2019 6th round and thus this was his final yr on the rookie contract.

                              The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                Let's see.....Wyatt Teller played a little tackle in college.....lol

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                                  gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                                  the word from a wise man...

                                  Known as one of the loudest sideline coaches on our staff..That's my kind of coach, loving his job... 

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                                    the word from a wise man...

                                    Known as one of the loudest sideline coaches on our staff..That's my kind of coach, loving his job... 

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                                    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                                    @gumby73 said:

                                    the word from a wise man...

                                    A very pleasant guy to interview.  Glad we have him!

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