the browns plan at QB going forward.
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You've gone full Retard on us. Are you saying Baker Mayfield is as good as Dan Marino or Phillip Rivers? Dan's a hall of famer and Rivers will be in the hall of fame. Baker isn't even close to those two at this point, especially Marino. I assume you're a Baker nuthugger, and no, I won't be going anywhere son.
No... I didn't say he was good or better... You have poor reading skills... What I'm saying is those guys were ELITE... And couldn't win a goddamn sausage!
No... I didn't say he was good or better... You have poor reading skills... What I'm saying is those guys were ELITE... And couldn't win a goddamn sausage!
Anybody with half a brain knew what you meant only a complete idiot would try to spin what you said. You made a great point.
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I have a bigger concern than Baker, At what point does the coach understand that 3 points is better than 0 points? At what point does he see we never even came close picking up the first or the TD when we went for it? Sack Sack Sack incomplete pass and a rush for a loss.
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i don't think baker is going to be the guy going forward, if he was berry would have signed him already. so what should we do?
1. baker is not worth 40 mil a year.. berry knows it.
2. this QB draft class sucks not really anyone of note. Maybe they draft a developmental QB?
3. free agents pretty much all older guys and retreds..... except for Mitch Trubisky.
that is my vote let baker play his 5th year while grooming trubisky as a backup plan if things dont go well as well as drafting a Developmental QB in next years draft.
i don't think baker is going to be the guy going forward, if he was berry would have signed him already. so what should we do?
1. baker is not worth 40 mil a year.. berry knows it.
2. this QB draft class sucks not really anyone of note. Maybe they draft a developmental QB?
3. free agents pretty much all older guys and retreds..... except for Mitch Trubisky.
that is my vote let baker play his 5th year while grooming trubisky as a backup plan if things dont go well as well as drafting a Developmental QB in next years draft.
the only change at qb that i would want would be watson....and dat ain't gonna happen....i'd take him over mayfield any day of the week.....somehow i envision watson and obj on the same page....don't know why but its a hunch....anything is better right now at this point.....boy, i would love to see something good with mayfield and obj...every week i wake up thinking...ok this is the game they finally look good....and it never happens...its like fucking groundhog day....
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I love the "these elite players didn't win a Super Bowl so it's cool if so and so isn't elite" arguments.
I guess I'm just a weirdo, you know, kind of wanting the most important position in all sports on my favorite team manned by someone elite.
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I am shocked over some of these comments, We made the EF'N PLAYOFFS and you want to make a change? We WON ZERO GAMES a few years back and went from 0-16 to 7-8-1 in 1 season better the next and the playoff the 3rd and you are talking bout SB? Ya let's just draft a new qb and start from scratch. while were at it let's trade Chubb for a 4th round pick and Hunt for a 6th why not? Were not going to win anything anyhow this year so why not? why keep players if we can't win it all right now? Maybe a SB maybe not but a AFC North Championship is something we can win now. If We make the playoffs again this year i will be happy that we are competing. We have never even been close to the SB since the late 80's we make the playoffs and you want to get rid of the QB, Go away be a troll somewhere else. Go convince Steelers to give up on Ben or something.
I am shocked over some of these comments, We made the EF'N PLAYOFFS and you want to make a change? We WON ZERO GAMES a few years back and went from 0-16 to 7-8-1 in 1 season better the next and the playoff the 3rd and you are talking bout SB? Ya let's just draft a new qb and start from scratch. while were at it let's trade Chubb for a 4th round pick and Hunt for a 6th why not? Were not going to win anything anyhow this year so why not? why keep players if we can't win it all right now? Maybe a SB maybe not but a AFC North Championship is something we can win now. If We make the playoffs again this year i will be happy that we are competing. We have never even been close to the SB since the late 80's we make the playoffs and you want to get rid of the QB, Go away be a troll somewhere else. Go convince Steelers to give up on Ben or something.
You beat me to it, thought wise. In the depths of what was it 1-31? We would have been ecstatic for a win- any win. Now guys want to grade wins on style points? Sheeze... A win is a win is a win- they all count the same.
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Baker's Instagram,
He’s 27-24, incl. playoffs as a starter. His 12,050 yards in his 1st 4 seasons is a franchise record, so is his current 89.1 career passer rating. He’s not perfect but he’s doing things Browns QBs haven’t done in generations
tweet of the day...
To all the Browns fans bitching about things this year, please stop. We are tied for the division lead. We have the #2 defense in the NFL. Also, we have won as many games in 4 games this season as Hue Jackson did in 40. Can’t we just enjoy having nice things -
I love the "these elite players didn't win a Super Bowl so it's cool if so and so isn't elite" arguments.
I guess I'm just a weirdo, you know, kind of wanting the most important position in all sports on my favorite team manned by someone elite.
I love the "these elite players didn't win a Super Bowl so it's cool if so and so isn't elite" arguments.
I guess I'm just a weirdo, you know, kind of wanting the most important position in all sports on my favorite team manned by someone elite.
Sure, who wouldn't? Problem is those elite guys are rather hard to come by. And once they're established as "elite" they usually don't change teams unless they're pretty much over the hill, or deemed as not "elite" enough. .
Sorry- but the Browns are going to have to play the hand they're dealt- with Baker at the controls. Anything else is Madden wishful thinking. Yeah I'd love to see the ghost of Otto Graham resurrected, but I doubt there's anyone left on this board who's old enough to actually remember seeing Otto play.
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How many people sat and said Trent Dilfer will never win a SB? I said sat because the arm chair QB out there, But guess what, he was very bad yet he has a ring. We have great guys on D, we have a top notch O line and the very best in the NFL running game so if you don't think Baker can be the SB QB you are a idiot, 2 pro bowl wr a trio of good TE, This team is capable of getting to the SB, granted it might not be because of the QB but if we were to win it all this year how many of you would still be crying about Baker? I remember having this conversation last year and people were saying if we made the playoffs they would be happy yet we made the playoffs and still you are not happy smh Joe Flacco won a SB yet nobody wants him, That guy that is known for taking a Knee played in a SB nobody wants him, Baker is the best qb from our life time and you want a change? Are you even a Browns fan? Does not sound like it as we said 1-31 was only a few seasons ago, Our Offense has been fun to watch since baker took over. I bleed for this team no matter what, The SB is not the most important thing to me beating the Steelers and winning the North is. Not being the laughing stock of the NFL is also important. GO BROWNS GO CAVS AND INDIANS FOREVER GUARDIANS NEVER and also a shout out to the Lake Erie Monsters.
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How many people sat and said Trent Dilfer will never win a SB? I said sat because the arm chair QB out there, But guess what, he was very bad yet he has a ring. We have great guys on D, we have a top notch O line and the very best in the NFL running game so if you don't think Baker can be the SB QB you are a idiot, 2 pro bowl wr a trio of good TE, This team is capable of getting to the SB, granted it might not be because of the QB but if we were to win it all this year how many of you would still be crying about Baker? I remember having this conversation last year and people were saying if we made the playoffs they would be happy yet we made the playoffs and still you are not happy smh Joe Flacco won a SB yet nobody wants him, That guy that is known for taking a Knee played in a SB nobody wants him, Baker is the best qb from our life time and you want a change? Are you even a Browns fan? Does not sound like it as we said 1-31 was only a few seasons ago, Our Offense has been fun to watch since baker took over. I bleed for this team no matter what, The SB is not the most important thing to me beating the Steelers and winning the North is. Not being the laughing stock of the NFL is also important. GO BROWNS GO CAVS AND INDIANS FOREVER GUARDIANS NEVER and also a shout out to the Lake Erie Monsters.
How many people sat and said Trent Dilfer will never win a SB? I said sat because the arm chair QB out there, But guess what, he was very bad yet he has a ring. We have great guys on D, we have a top notch O line and the very best in the NFL running game so if you don't think Baker can be the SB QB you are a idiot, 2 pro bowl wr a trio of good TE, This team is capable of getting to the SB, granted it might not be because of the QB but if we were to win it all this year how many of you would still be crying about Baker? I remember having this conversation last year and people were saying if we made the playoffs they would be happy yet we made the playoffs and still you are not happy smh Joe Flacco won a SB yet nobody wants him, That guy that is known for taking a Knee played in a SB nobody wants him, Baker is the best qb from our life time and you want a change? Are you even a Browns fan? Does not sound like it as we said 1-31 was only a few seasons ago, Our Offense has been fun to watch since baker took over. I bleed for this team no matter what, The SB is not the most important thing to me beating the Steelers and winning the North is. Not being the laughing stock of the NFL is also important. GO BROWNS GO CAVS AND INDIANS FOREVER GUARDIANS NEVER and also a shout out to the Lake Erie Monsters.
Thank you for bringing sanity to this thread..
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I love the "these elite players didn't win a Super Bowl so it's cool if so and so isn't elite" arguments.
I guess I'm just a weirdo, you know, kind of wanting the most important position in all sports on my favorite team manned by someone elite.
Sure, who wouldn't? Problem is those elite guys are rather hard to come by. And once they're established as "elite" they usually don't change teams unless they're pretty much over the hill, or deemed as not "elite" enough. .
Sorry- but the Browns are going to have to play the hand they're dealt- with Baker at the controls. Anything else is Madden wishful thinking. Yeah I'd love to see the ghost of Otto Graham resurrected, but I doubt there's anyone left on this board who's old enough to actually remember seeing Otto play.
Sure, who wouldn't? Problem is those elite guys are rather hard to come by. And once they're established as "elite" they usually don't change teams unless they're pretty much over the hill, or deemed as not "elite" enough. .
Sorry- but the Browns are going to have to play the hand they're dealt- with Baker at the controls. Anything else is Madden wishful thinking. Yeah I'd love to see the ghost of Otto Graham resurrected, but I doubt there's anyone left on this board who's old enough to actually remember seeing Otto play.
Oh, I get it. At the end of the day, I think most of Baker's problems recently are because he's more injured than it has been let on.
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Sure, who wouldn't? Problem is those elite guys are rather hard to come by. And once they're established as "elite" they usually don't change teams unless they're pretty much over the hill, or deemed as not "elite" enough. .
Sorry- but the Browns are going to have to play the hand they're dealt- with Baker at the controls. Anything else is Madden wishful thinking. Yeah I'd love to see the ghost of Otto Graham resurrected, but I doubt there's anyone left on this board who's old enough to actually remember seeing Otto play.
Oh, I get it. At the end of the day, I think most of Baker's problems recently are because he's more injured than it has been let on.
Oh, I get it. At the end of the day, I think most of Baker's problems recently are because he's more injured than it has been let on.
He admitted when pushed that he had been wearing a "harness" of some kind on his left shoulder during the game. But he did not think that affected him into a poor showing since he also admitted that he missed some very open receivers badly.
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Just don't doubt Baker. It's a fool's errand. What's important - is that his team doesn't doubt him.
He's bounced back and proved people wrong his whole career. That kind of moxie, leadership, and elite mental toughness is priceless.
https://www.brownsnation.com/baker-mayfield-has-a-message-for-his-doubters/
Baker Mayfield Has A Message For His Doubters
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Just don't doubt Baker. It's a fool's errand. What's important - is that his team doesn't doubt him.
He's bounced back and proved people wrong his whole career. That kind of moxie, leadership, and elite mental toughness is priceless.
https://www.brownsnation.com/baker-mayfield-has-a-message-for-his-doubters/
Baker Mayfield Has A Message For His Doubters
Just don't doubt Baker. It's a fool's errand. What's important - is that his team doesn't doubt him.
He's bounced back and proved people wrong his whole career. That kind of moxie, leadership, and elite mental toughness is priceless.
https://www.brownsnation.com/baker-mayfield-has-a-message-for-his-doubters/
Baker Mayfield Has A Message For His Doubters
Him posting this has me more worried than a shitty game or two.
Who cares what anybody but Kevin and Berry think. Stefanski knows he isn't 100%. You can tell when he side steps questions. Obviously the other shoulder is bothering him. When has he ever missed throws so badly in the past? He looked like Josh Allen out there last week.
Reminds me of 2019 when he was to worried about what the media was saying.
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Just don't doubt Baker. It's a fool's errand. What's important - is that his team doesn't doubt him.
He's bounced back and proved people wrong his whole career. That kind of moxie, leadership, and elite mental toughness is priceless.
https://www.brownsnation.com/baker-mayfield-has-a-message-for-his-doubters/
Baker Mayfield Has A Message For His Doubters
Him posting this has me more worried than a shitty game or two.
Who cares what anybody but Kevin and Berry think. Stefanski knows he isn't 100%. You can tell when he side steps questions. Obviously the other shoulder is bothering him. When has he ever missed throws so badly in the past? He looked like Josh Allen out there last week.
Reminds me of 2019 when he was to worried about what the media was saying.
Him posting this has me more worried than a shitty game or two.
Who cares what anybody but Kevin and Berry think. Stefanski knows he isn't 100%. You can tell when he side steps questions. Obviously the other shoulder is bothering him. When has he ever missed throws so badly in the past? He looked like Josh Allen out there last week.
Reminds me of 2019 when he was to worried about what the media was saying.
Nearly a fair point, but Mayfield isn't "worried". He gets asked questions, and he answers.
If a qb won't answer the obvious questions, it would be considered big trouble, secret deep trouble, etc.
When has he ever had a dislocated shoulder in the past? When has he ever been leading a team trying to get to
the superbowl, with the LT, RT and C banged up and questionable to play? When was the last time he had Landry, his key hot receiver out of the game? When was the last time he played with a shoulder harness on?
I'd rather go by trends. One game is not a trend. If he keeps having bad games with accuracy, that would be a trend and would call for a serious look.
His whole career he's never had that, he's always bounced back. I don't doubt him on that.
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btw, Josh Allen had a qb rating of 100.4, completed a bit over 2/3rds of his passes, two touchdowns in a 40-0 win.
Week before, he completed over 74 percent of his passes for a 129.8 rating. The first two weeks he and their offense struggled and he didn't play well.
Allen bounces back. Baker bounces back. Tom Brady has played very poorly a few times, obviously bounces back.
It happens.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/sport/tom-brady-worst-game-of-career-spt-intl/index.html
Tom Brady has one of the worst games of his career in record loss
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Zombo said:
Baker is playing with a torn labrum and a shoulder harness, you dicks.
He was brought here to WIN and we are WINNING.
I love our gutsy, talented bad-ass winning QB and he's THE GUY moving forward.
Z
Well l’ll be…
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.beaconjournal.com/amp/6021188001
The timing of this news is curious. I admire Baker’s toughness but can’t help but wonder if we could have won the last couple games more comfortably with Keenum back there. I guess it’s ultimately Stef’s decision.
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Him posting this has me more worried than a shitty game or two.
Who cares what anybody but Kevin and Berry think. Stefanski knows he isn't 100%. You can tell when he side steps questions. Obviously the other shoulder is bothering him. When has he ever missed throws so badly in the past? He looked like Josh Allen out there last week.
Reminds me of 2019 when he was to worried about what the media was saying.
Nearly a fair point, but Mayfield isn't "worried". He gets asked questions, and he answers.
If a qb won't answer the obvious questions, it would be considered big trouble, secret deep trouble, etc.
When has he ever had a dislocated shoulder in the past? When has he ever been leading a team trying to get to
the superbowl, with the LT, RT and C banged up and questionable to play? When was the last time he had Landry, his key hot receiver out of the game? When was the last time he played with a shoulder harness on?
I'd rather go by trends. One game is not a trend. If he keeps having bad games with accuracy, that would be a trend and would call for a serious look.
His whole career he's never had that, he's always bounced back. I don't doubt him on that.
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btw, Josh Allen had a qb rating of 100.4, completed a bit over 2/3rds of his passes, two touchdowns in a 40-0 win.
Week before, he completed over 74 percent of his passes for a 129.8 rating. The first two weeks he and their offense struggled and he didn't play well.
Allen bounces back. Baker bounces back. Tom Brady has played very poorly a few times, obviously bounces back.
It happens.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/sport/tom-brady-worst-game-of-career-spt-intl/index.html
Tom Brady has one of the worst games of his career in record loss
btw, Josh Allen had a qb rating of 100.4, completed a bit over 2/3rds of his passes, two touchdowns in a 40-0 win.
Week before, he completed over 74 percent of his passes for a 129.8 rating. The first two weeks he and their offense struggled and he didn't play well.
Allen bounces back. Baker bounces back. Tom Brady has played very poorly a few times, obviously bounces back.
It happens.
Ya, and I've also watched him in more than a few games where he couldn't hit water with a throw if he was standing on a boat in the middle of Lake Erie. Hence my comment about how he looked like Josh Allen out there. I watched him in a Dome game last year miss three deep throws that could have been called for intentional grounding Brandon Weeden style
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Him posting this has me more worried than a shitty game or two.
Who cares what anybody but Kevin and Berry think. Stefanski knows he isn't 100%. You can tell when he side steps questions. Obviously the other shoulder is bothering him. When has he ever missed throws so badly in the past? He looked like Josh Allen out there last week.
Reminds me of 2019 when he was to worried about what the media was saying.
Nearly a fair point, but Mayfield isn't "worried". He gets asked questions, and he answers.
If a qb won't answer the obvious questions, it would be considered big trouble, secret deep trouble, etc.
When has he ever had a dislocated shoulder in the past? When has he ever been leading a team trying to get to
the superbowl, with the LT, RT and C banged up and questionable to play? When was the last time he had Landry, his key hot receiver out of the game? When was the last time he played with a shoulder harness on?
I'd rather go by trends. One game is not a trend. If he keeps having bad games with accuracy, that would be a trend and would call for a serious look.
His whole career he's never had that, he's always bounced back. I don't doubt him on that.
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btw, Josh Allen had a qb rating of 100.4, completed a bit over 2/3rds of his passes, two touchdowns in a 40-0 win.
Week before, he completed over 74 percent of his passes for a 129.8 rating. The first two weeks he and their offense struggled and he didn't play well.
Allen bounces back. Baker bounces back. Tom Brady has played very poorly a few times, obviously bounces back.
It happens.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/sport/tom-brady-worst-game-of-career-spt-intl/index.html
Tom Brady has one of the worst games of his career in record loss
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well its either baker play's better or we put keenum in . This injury isnt going to get better without surgery.
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Zombo said:
Baker is playing with a torn labrum and a shoulder harness, you dicks.
He was brought here to WIN and we are WINNING.
I love our gutsy, talented bad-ass winning QB and he's THE GUY moving forward.
Z
Yes, confirmed... BUT as I mentioned earlier- NFL rules say if a player has an injury that's significant- you have to list it on the injury report. Baker isn't listed- as of today. (the Bills potentially got in trouble back in January for exactly this) MHO- if he keeps throwing passes to different area codes than his receivers- time to let Keenum play for a couple of weeks.
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