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  • Well JJ Watt never even had so much of a finger on a QB this season UNTIL they played us and he looked like D player of the year. So I am sure Von will destroy us like he always seems to do. But No matter What GO BROWNS. Or until the 2nd when we are down 24-0 before half time. 

    @browns-fan-1977 said:

    Well JJ Watt never even had so much of a finger on a QB this season UNTIL they played us and he looked like D player of the year. So I am sure Von will destroy us like he always seems to do. But No matter What GO BROWNS. Or until the 2nd when we are down 24-0 before half time. 

    Yes, Von will kill us, but we have to find a way to limit the mauling. It's very rare to completely shut down Hall of Fame players, but the trick isn't to stop them, but to prevent game-changing plays. If he gets a sack, make sure you don't fumble. If you fumble, recover it. And so on. One of the problems facing us is that if we do give up a sack, that's likely the end of the drive. Any sack, holding penalty, or even dropped pass can put us behind the sticks and punting before you know it. 

    You can only take SO much from preseason, but if you remember, Case Keenum was definitely Captain Checkdown. I mean he threw NOTHING past 6 yards and I'm hardly exaggerating. I honestly do not know how good of a grasp Case has on the offense, but I do know this:  We will NOT be able to run ball. Not just because Chubb and Hunt are out, and not because our Tackles are out (likely) but because the Broncos have an excellent defense and they're going to put 38 defenders on the line of scrimmage. 

    Look, I have faith in our backup RBs, and I believe they have skill for being 3rd, 4th, and 5th stringers, but it's almost impossible to run on a 6 man front. They're literally going to DARE us to throw the ball on them, which is exactly what Arizona did. If you remember, we came out passing the ball almost exclusively. That's precisely what we'll have to do in order to win. If you manage to shred their 6 man front early, they'll adjust, and THAT'S when you run behind Teller. 

    The season feels like it's almost over, and I get it. This was supposed to be a magical season, and to be honest, we're a few plays away from it. Our idiot punter drops an effing snap, our defense has multiple blown coverages, and poof! We're 3-3. But guess what? Guess what a win does? It takes us to 4-3 with about 10 days of rest until a showdown at Pittsburgh. It'll be potentially the healthiest we've been in weeks and it comes at the biggest point of our season. Win tomorrow, save the season. I don't care if it's 3-2. FIND A WAY. 

  • Oh, horse feathers.

    Miller, Miller, Miller.

    All we have to do, is have Garrett play both ways, put him at offensive tackle whatever side Von Miller lines up on....

    and there ya go.

  • Captain Check Down will need a lot of help. But you KNOW what? Our team can give it to him. It's time for us to make some plays, get a few bounces rolled our way, and get a defensive TD or some shit like that. Let's steal this game any way possible and get back to healing. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Captain Check Down will need a lot of help. But you KNOW what? Our team can give it to him. It's time for us to make some plays, get a few bounces rolled our way, and get a defensive TD or some shit like that. Let's steal this game any way possible and get back to healing. 

    Denver is going to be missing two of their ILBs, and Miller's backup is out too.  Do they have the bodies to put 6-8 in the box?  

  • @nickers said:

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/10/browns-will-start-case-keenum-at-quarterback-on-thursday-night.html

    Unfortunately nickers- it looks like Cleveland.com and the Plain Dealer are putting a lot of their best stuff behind a pay wall.  Even Terry Pluto.  🙁  

    Have to think if I want to spend another $10 bucks a month on yet another newspaper subscription.  

    @hoorta said:

    Unfortunately nickers- it looks like Cleveland.com and the Plain Dealer are putting a lot of their best stuff behind a pay wall.  Even Terry Pluto.  🙁  

    Have to think if I want to spend another $10 bucks a month on yet another newspaper subscription.  

    Give it another few years it will all be pay content.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Captain Check Down will need a lot of help. But you KNOW what? Our team can give it to him. It's time for us to make some plays, get a few bounces rolled our way, and get a defensive TD or some shit like that. Let's steal this game any way possible and get back to healing. 

    Denver is going to be missing two of their ILBs, and Miller's backup is out too.  Do they have the bodies to put 6-8 in the box?  

    @hoorta said:

    Denver is going to be missing two of their ILBs, and Miller's backup is out too.  Do they have the bodies to put 6-8 in the box?  

    That's a fair point. They'll obviously have SOMEONE out there, but I don't know anything about how good they are. I'm curious as to how good their corners are. Also, I could be mistaken, but I remember Keenum throwing a pretty nice jump ball while at Minnesota. I would not mind seeing a few of those tonight. 

  • @nickers said:

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/10/browns-will-start-case-keenum-at-quarterback-on-thursday-night.html

    Unfortunately nickers- it looks like Cleveland.com and the Plain Dealer are putting a lot of their best stuff behind a pay wall.  Even Terry Pluto.  🙁  

    Have to think if I want to spend another $10 bucks a month on yet another newspaper subscription.  

    @hoorta said:

    Unfortunately nickers- it looks like Cleveland.com and the Plain Dealer are putting a lot of their best stuff behind a pay wall.  Even Terry Pluto.  🙁  

    Have to think if I want to spend another $10 bucks a month on yet another newspaper subscription.  

    I used to have a Plain Dealer and Press route when I was a kid.  We had to do our own collections also.  I quit the PD a couple of years ago because half the time I wouldn't receive my paper anyways.  Now, it's kind of useless because all the news is old news by the time you receive the paper.  They are going to quit printed news soon.  They a re trying to sell the Cleveland.com as an online news paper.  

  • We better beat Denver for a secondary reason.

    I can't stand Goldhammer.  A Denver fan and a fraud. Pretends to be upset when the Browns lose when you know inside he's lovin it.

  • Von  Miller is going to destroy us.

  • We better beat Denver for a secondary reason.

    I can't stand Goldhammer.  A Denver fan and a fraud. Pretends to be upset when the Browns lose when you know inside he's lovin it.

    @gorka said:

    We better beat Denver for a secondary reason.

    I can't stand Goldhammer.  A Denver fan and a fraud. Pretends to be upset when the Browns lose when you know inside he's lovin it.

    Gold hammer is cancer for sure. He only got the gig cuz of his daddy being a higher up. Can’t stand listening to him.

  • @hoorta said:

    Unfortunately nickers- it looks like Cleveland.com and the Plain Dealer are putting a lot of their best stuff behind a pay wall.  Even Terry Pluto.  🙁  

    Have to think if I want to spend another $10 bucks a month on yet another newspaper subscription.  

    I used to have a Plain Dealer and Press route when I was a kid.  We had to do our own collections also.  I quit the PD a couple of years ago because half the time I wouldn't receive my paper anyways.  Now, it's kind of useless because all the news is old news by the time you receive the paper.  They are going to quit printed news soon.  They a re trying to sell the Cleveland.com as an online news paper.  

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I used to have a Plain Dealer and Press route when I was a kid.  We had to do our own collections also.  I quit the PD a couple of years ago because half the time I wouldn't receive my paper anyways.  Now, it's kind of useless because all the news is old news by the time you receive the paper.  They are going to quit printed news soon.  They a re trying to sell the Cleveland.com as an online news paper.  

    Fair point. The days of a printed newspaper are NFL not for long. When they lost the revenue from classified advertising it just about killed them.  Dayton still has seven day delivery,  but the cost isn't hardly worth it anymore. 

  • Von  Miller is going to destroy us.

    @typicalbrowns50 said:

    Von  Miller is going to destroy us.

    You think Stefanski isn't aware that Miller ran has mouth a little bit earlier in the week and will game plan accordingly?  Just like Fangio will do the same to minimize any damage Garrett can do? 

  • @typicalbrowns50 said:

    Von  Miller is going to destroy us.

    You think Stefanski isn't aware that Miller ran has mouth a little bit earlier in the week and will game plan accordingly?  Just like Fangio will do the same to minimize any damage Garrett can do? 

    @hoorta said:

    You think Stefanski isn't aware that Miller ran has mouth a little bit earlier in the week and will game plan accordingly?  Just like Fangio will do the same to minimize any damage Garrett can do? 

    Stefanski is no dummy - Von Miller is 6' 3", 250. Johnny Stanton is 6'2", 240. I'd use a two back set a lot to throw their defense off track and frustrate Miller..... I look for our OT's to have a much, much better game. The Browns defense will step up again. Garrett will have more sacks than Miller. I think Schwartz will have his best game.

       I tried to pick up D'Ernest Jackson in one league - he will have a good or great day. Both teams desperately need a win. Browns will get it. 23-17.......

      But the Browns need to come out passing. Defenses are just keying on the run - especially on first downs when Stef calls a run so often.

  • You guys are giving too much respect to Von Miller.  This isn’t 2017.

    Good player no doubt it.  Give Hance a shot he did well against Bosa 

  • @browns52 said:

    what.....your are saying greenbay, cinci twice, the pats in foxboro....and with our d, you are saying the steelers are soft......with our d, we may not win another game...i don't care if we play georgia.....

    Man, you are one negative asshole.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Man, you are one negative asshole.

    not negative at all, just realistic....broccoli iq shit head..

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Man, you are one negative asshole.

    not negative at all, just realistic....broccoli iq shit head..

    @browns52 said:

    not negative at all, just realistic....broccoli iq shit head..

    And a punk to boot.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Man, you are one negative asshole.

    not negative at all, just realistic....broccoli iq shit head..

    @browns52 said:

    not negative at all, just realistic....broccoli iq shit head..

    Really? Realistic? You and Soju are the resident Negative Nancys around here... 

    @browns52 said:

    what.....your are saying greenbay, cinci twice, the pats in foxboro....and with our d, you are saying the steelers are soft......with our d, we may not win another game...i don't care if we play georgia.....

    The D had a couple bad games...  FYI, there's 11 more games to be played. 

    @browns52 said:

    its not only keenum....we have no rb's....our defense sucks....i see denver ball control most of the game.....glad my favorite tv show is on....big sky....me thinks i'll be subjected to watching it rather than this game.....don't look good for baker this yr......what a shit season....only 6 games into the season....

    Then go ahead and watch Big Sky instead. Some fan you are, and I'll give you a hint- should the Browns win, don't come back.....  

    Woe is us Eeyore. Here's a few interesting factoids for you that I overheard...  the Buccaneers went 1-3 in November last year, including getting smeared 38-3 by the Saints, didn't win the NFC South, and BTW, did happen to win the Super Bowl. 

  • Von  Miller is going to destroy us.

    @typicalbrowns50 said:

    Von  Miller is going to destroy us.

    Von Miller will be nothing... He's old..

  • Broccoli IQ Shit Head opened up for Black Flag at the Agora back in '83. 

  • @hoorta said:

    You think Stefanski isn't aware that Miller ran has mouth a little bit earlier in the week and will game plan accordingly?  Just like Fangio will do the same to minimize any damage Garrett can do? 

    Stefanski is no dummy - Von Miller is 6' 3", 250. Johnny Stanton is 6'2", 240. I'd use a two back set a lot to throw their defense off track and frustrate Miller..... I look for our OT's to have a much, much better game. The Browns defense will step up again. Garrett will have more sacks than Miller. I think Schwartz will have his best game.

       I tried to pick up D'Ernest Jackson in one league - he will have a good or great day. Both teams desperately need a win. Browns will get it. 23-17.......

      But the Browns need to come out passing. Defenses are just keying on the run - especially on first downs when Stef calls a run so often.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Stefanski is no dummy - Von Miller is 6' 3", 250. Johnny Stanton is 6'2", 240. I'd use a two back set a lot to throw their defense off track and frustrate Miller..... I look for our OT's to have a much, much better game. The Browns defense will step up again. Garrett will have more sacks than Miller. I think Schwartz will have his best game.

       I tried to pick up D'Ernest Jackson in one league - he will have a good or great day. Both teams desperately need a win. Browns will get it. 23-17.......

      But the Browns need to come out passing. Defenses are just keying on the run - especially on first downs when Stef calls a run so often.

    i picked up johnson and traded obj for landry

  • @typicalbrowns50 said:

    Von  Miller is going to destroy us.

    Von Miller will be nothing... He's old..

    @nickers said:

    Von Miller will be nothing... He's old..

    and he got hurt...