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  • Since opening day of 2017 OBJ has played in 45 games, and missed 27 games due to injury.

    I think it’s time to part company with this prima donna.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Since opening day of 2017 OBJ has played in 45 games, and missed 27 games due to injury.

    I think it’s time to part company with this prima donna.

    After pulling a bitch move like that.. He's as good as gone... Good riddence you moron..

  • Here's the thing from what I understand. There's not going to be a way based on what's happened to release him and get his salary back. As stupid as this shit is, someone's dad on social media isn't going to fly as a "conduct detrimental to the team" to try to void his remaining salary. This isn't for example Antonio Brown and his fiasco with the Raiders.

    I'd say if he's hurt enough to put him on IR do it and be done with the OBJ experiment. Being a 'healthy scratch' comes with much more media scrutiny. It boggles my mind that people think OBJ and his crew aren't the problem, though. I'm actually looking forward to seeing if the Baker we've seen with OBJ off the field comes back at this point.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Since opening day of 2017 OBJ has played in 45 games, and missed 27 games due to injury.

    I think it’s time to part company with this prima donna.

    After pulling a bitch move like that.. He's as good as gone... Good riddence you moron..

    @nickers said:

    After pulling a bitch move like that.. He's as good as gone... Good riddance you moron..

    "Excused from practice for the second day"..  Not Rocket Science he's not in the game plans Sunday...

    @jrb12711 said:

    Here's the thing from what I understand. There's not going to be a way based on what's happened to release him and get his salary back. As stupid as this shit is, someone's dad on social media isn't going to fly as a "conduct detrimental to the team" to try to void his remaining salary. This isn't for example Antonio Brown and his fiasco with the Raiders.

    I'd say if he's hurt enough to put him on IR do it and be done with the OBJ experiment. Being a 'healthy scratch' comes with much more media scrutiny. It boggles my mind that people think OBJ and his crew aren't the problem, though. I'm actually looking forward to seeing if the Baker we've seen with OBJ off the field comes back at this point.

    From NFL.com Bitonio and Johnson are supportive... But...  One unnamed player, however, relayed this message to Garafolo: "He does nothing. He talks to no one. He's just got a malcontent attitude."  Reports- hasn't talked to Baker OR Stefanski since the video surfaced.  

    Unless they can get Beckham to take a lesser amount for his release, the capologists say there's probably no team that will be willing to pick him up on waivers. Then he's free to sign with whichever team suits him.  Of course, it's been mentioned- the Browns can just tell him to sit home and stew, and collect his 8 million playing Madden.  

    It's always been about OBJ.. He managed to shut his yap and be a team player for around 18 months but those days are over.  You want MHO? You got it. 🙂   OBJ is Jonesying for his last big payday.  He's not going to get it with the Browns posting say- 40 catches, 500 yards, and a couple TDs.  

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Did I miss something? Has been out there that obj asked his father to post this video on Instagram? I agree you can't have this in the locker room and it looks awful but I'm just curious if it has been shown that obj wanted his dad to post this? The way it is being covered it seems like obj himself posted this or said something. 

    Seems to me a given that OBJ has said plenty internally. No chance they send him hime based solely on his Dads comments. My guess is he’s been bitching lately and when the followed up on his Dads comments he confirmed them. I’ll never understand why but this team is far better when he’s not on the field. The hell with releasing him , pay him to sit at home. I don’t want him on a team we face in a get even game. 

    @jcam222 said:

     I’ll never understand why but this team is far better when he’s not on the field. The hell with releasing him , pay him to sit at home. I don’t want him on a team we face in a get even game. 

    THIS. I got ridiculed in here for stating this long ago. 

  • @nickers said:

    After pulling a bitch move like that.. He's as good as gone... Good riddance you moron..

    "Excused from practice for the second day"..  Not Rocket Science he's not in the game plans Sunday...

    @jrb12711 said:

    Here's the thing from what I understand. There's not going to be a way based on what's happened to release him and get his salary back. As stupid as this shit is, someone's dad on social media isn't going to fly as a "conduct detrimental to the team" to try to void his remaining salary. This isn't for example Antonio Brown and his fiasco with the Raiders.

    I'd say if he's hurt enough to put him on IR do it and be done with the OBJ experiment. Being a 'healthy scratch' comes with much more media scrutiny. It boggles my mind that people think OBJ and his crew aren't the problem, though. I'm actually looking forward to seeing if the Baker we've seen with OBJ off the field comes back at this point.

    From NFL.com Bitonio and Johnson are supportive... But...  One unnamed player, however, relayed this message to Garafolo: "He does nothing. He talks to no one. He's just got a malcontent attitude."  Reports- hasn't talked to Baker OR Stefanski since the video surfaced.  

    Unless they can get Beckham to take a lesser amount for his release, the capologists say there's probably no team that will be willing to pick him up on waivers. Then he's free to sign with whichever team suits him.  Of course, it's been mentioned- the Browns can just tell him to sit home and stew, and collect his 8 million playing Madden.  

    It's always been about OBJ.. He managed to shut his yap and be a team player for around 18 months but those days are over.  You want MHO? You got it. 🙂   OBJ is Jonesying for his last big payday.  He's not going to get it with the Browns posting say- 40 catches, 500 yards, and a couple TDs.  

    @hoorta said:

    "Excused from practice for the second day"..  Not Rocket Science he's not in the game plans Sunday...

    From NFL.com Bitonio and Johnson are supportive... But...  One unnamed player, however, relayed this message to Garafolo: "He does nothing. He talks to no one. He's just got a malcontent attitude."  Reports- hasn't talked to Baker OR Stefanski since the video surfaced.  

    Unless they can get Beckham to take a lesser amount for his release, the capologists say there's probably no team that will be willing to pick him up on waivers. Then he's free to sign with whichever team suits him.  Of course, it's been mentioned- the Browns can just tell him to sit home and stew, and collect his 8 million playing Madden.  

    It's always been about OBJ.. He managed to shut his yap and be a team player for around 18 months but those days are over.  You want MHO? You got it. 🙂   OBJ is Jonesying for his last big payday.  He's not going to get it with the Browns posting say- 40 catches, 500 yards, and a couple TDs.  

    right, no one is going to take on the money and he's not going to take less. Outright releasing him gives him what he wants, and fuck that. Healthy scratch him at worst, IR him at best. 

    Although, if I'm being honest with you i could totally see my dad doing something like this as a way of defending me haha. But I'm also not an asshole WR.

  • The question I have is how professional is Jarvis Landry? We know Odell is Jarvis's boy but as useless as Beckham has been Landry is equally as useful. Can't afford to lose Jarvis. This is putting him in an awkward position where he's got to choose between his bff and his team and paycheck. How's it gonna go? Stay tuned. 

  • The question I have is how professional is Jarvis Landry? We know Odell is Jarvis's boy but as useless as Beckham has been Landry is equally as useful. Can't afford to lose Jarvis. This is putting him in an awkward position where he's got to choose between his bff and his team and paycheck. How's it gonna go? Stay tuned. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    The question I have is how professional is Jarvis Landry? We know Odell is Jarvis's boy but as useless as Beckham has been Landry is equally as useful. Can't afford to lose Jarvis. This is putting him in an awkward position where he's got to choose between his bff and his team and paycheck. How's it gonna go? Stay tuned. 

    At some point... Landry has to realize what a moron OBJ is...And If I were Landrys handlers... id be finding ways to dissolve association from Beckham... He's a bitch cry baby...

  • The question I have is how professional is Jarvis Landry? We know Odell is Jarvis's boy but as useless as Beckham has been Landry is equally as useful. Can't afford to lose Jarvis. This is putting him in an awkward position where he's got to choose between his bff and his team and paycheck. How's it gonna go? Stay tuned. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    The question I have is how professional is Jarvis Landry? We know Odell is Jarvis's boy but as useless as Beckham has been Landry is equally as useful. Can't afford to lose Jarvis. This is putting him in an awkward position where he's got to choose between his bff and his team and paycheck. How's it gonna go? Stay tuned. 

    i read that landry is still behind baker and no he doesnt have to choose they are both adults (well landry is) it just didnt work out

  • Practice squad punching bag?

  • Practice squad punching bag?

    @silver-slayer said:

    Practice squad punching bag?

    Nah, being reported- multiple sources- he's gone today. Probably had to restructure, and promise to not go to another AFC team. 

  • Beckham, much like Risen peaked early on. Was dumped by another club who can see the physical decline. The stupid Browns were the chumps.

  • @bob806 said:

    I think Bynerr for Oliphant was worse.

    ...and going back to my youth, Paul Warfield to the Dolphins for the pick that landed Mike Phipps?

    yep - that was surely the worst all time stupid trade.

    @calfoxwc said:

    yep - that was surely the worst all time stupid trade.

    I disagree.  Paul Brown traded Dough Atkins because he burped in a team meeting for a 3rd round pick. Dough Atkins went on to a HOF career and is considered one of the best DE's to ever play the game.  

  • https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1456577540223549440?s=20

    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Browns working on converting Odell Beckham Jr.’s signing bonus into base salary, making it easier for another team to claim him on waivers, per sources.

    Once contract is finalized - anytime in next few days - OBJ will be released, as @ProFootballTalk/ @CharlesRobinson reported.

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  • https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/11/04/browns-plan-to-release-odell-beckham-jr-on-friday/

    That wake is probably already been posted, I just saw it. This is a mystery. Even if stefanski system isn't copacetic with what Beckham brings to the table can't imagine that with his talent and speed he shouldn't be able to fit into whatever pass plays stefanski would call?

    WSS

  • @jrb12711 said:

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32543002/odell-beckham-jr-excused-practice-day-father-post-critical-baker-mayfield

    I give Stef and the coaching staff credit for this. You can't have this happen and just let it go. He doesn't want to be here and from my view didn't really give a shit to be out there. Cut the dead weight and get back to it.

    It will cost us about $8 million to flat out cut him. Hmmm... Fact is, Baker played better with OBJ not on the field. And if Landry is POed that we sent his good pal packing, it will only cost us $1,5 million to release Jarvis next spring. We're paying him #1 WR money to be a great possession receiver. Clears a lot of salary cap at the WR position. 

    "Generally speaking players cut with four or more years of NFL experience immediately become free agents and are free to sign with any NFL team. However, during the season, beginning immediately after the NFL trade deadline passes and continuing through the end of the regular season, vested veterans (players with four or more years of NFL service) are also subject to the waiver process."

    You interested in getting picked up by the Texans\ Lions Odell?  Hang in there until the end of the season, and you can pick your landing spot. 

    @hoorta said:

    It will cost us about $8 million to flat out cut him. Hmmm... Fact is, Baker played better with OBJ not on the field. And if Landry is POed that we sent his good pal packing, it will only cost us $1,5 million to release Jarvis next spring. We're paying him #1 WR money to be a great possession receiver. Clears a lot of salary cap at the WR position. 

    "Generally speaking players cut with four or more years of NFL experience immediately become free agents and are free to sign with any NFL team. However, during the season, beginning immediately after the NFL trade deadline passes and continuing through the end of the regular season, vested veterans (players with four or more years of NFL service) are also subject to the waiver process."

    You interested in getting picked up by the Texans\ Lions Odell?  Hang in there until the end of the season, and you can pick your landing spot. 

    I'm not worried about the Browns going on food stamps as much as I worry about another Poseiden Adventure sinking a season when there's an intervention to be had. Outside of Jarvis Landry, we haven't had a lot of luck with LSU guys coincidence or not.  Delpit had a season ending achilles tendon tear last preseason.  Now that he's back, the only good form tackle I've seen from him was from the blind side of a QB on a blitz.  Jacob Phillips is on IR this year.   Meanwhile, this looks like the first stretch of Greedy Williams looking like a starting caliber corner since we drafted him.

    I see a lot interesting posts wondering who is more at fault between Baker & OBJ as well as a thread calling out Stefanski.  Like we saw back in 2019 when we lost BOTH of our starting tackles and then the 1st tackle off the bench left the game hurt (Lamm/Lame),  it's not the ideal time to ask ANY QB to sit back there patiently in order to launch the deeper throws and comfortably get through the progressions.  Just out of curiosity, anyone remember what positions the FO prioritized in the draft and FA heading into 2020?  Left and Right Tackle (Wills and Conklin).  Was the successful record to follow really just a coincidence?  And when we lost BOTH guys (plus backup T Chris Hubbard) for a stretch this year - who else beside Baker got hurt enough to miss games?  Chubb and Hunt, which means we're pretty much talking about everyone lining up behind Center.  The Browns were 3-1 before both starting Tackles went down without Chris Hubbard being available as the fist solution.  Having said that, Blake Hance looks to be transitioning well from OG to RT as he gets more experience.

    I think we're seeing a sum of things that we just can't easily sum up to if we just get rid of Baker - that we're right back to that flawless football we had right before we drafted him.  Yeah, I REALLY miss that 1-31 football man!  Let's not pretend Baker was surrounded by nothing but Pro Bowl talent his rookie year.  We started that season out 0-1-1 plus a 14 point deficit to the Jets before Baker got his first action.  He came in and led the Browns to a comeback win over the Jets.  The same franchise that was 1-31 plus 0-1-1 before Baker, went 7-7 during the 1st 14 games he played.  In the process, he set the NFL rookie QB record for TD passes with 27 before Herbert broke that a few years later with 31 or 32 (in 2 more starts than Baker had).  Now he's in something like his 4th different offense in his 5th season.  

    I LIKE what Stefanski has brought to this team unless someone wants to fart in church with how much winning 11 regular season games + 1 PLAYOFF win in Pittsburgh was unforgivable here.  Good luck with that!  Having said that, I DO wonder if Stefanski's TE friendly offense that catered to the running game (Dalvin Cook) in Minnesota pisses off the deep threat weapon like Stefon Diggs.  Remember Diggs wanting out of Minnesota?  And who went on trial as the bad investment in the process?  Kirk Cousins.  Cousins is quietly having a good year; but I don't know if that's translating to a higher winning percentage in Minnesota these days.  

    In the end, I think it's important to remember how pathetic this franchise was at finding the right QB since 1999.  As much as we want to say poor Tim Couch just went to a bad team - Philly drafted 2nd because they had the worst record depicting the worst team in the NFL in 1998.  Having said that, they were the ones that drafted a QB (Donovan McNabb) that turned a league worst franchise into a team that frequented the playoffs in something like 8 of McNabb's 1st 10 seasons in the league.  They went to 5 NFC Championships and 1 SB in that time. If that's not enough, Kurt Warner was also available to us in the 99 Expansion Draft; but our FO chose the gambling background of Scot Milanovich. Countless draft day whiffs followed with the QB position in a place where continuity of anything except losing was permitted. 

    Not to sound like a glorious night of bedroom gymnastics but sorry for the length...

  • released.

  • Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
    Sources: The #Browns are releasing star WR Odell Beckham Jr., as the two sides came together on a resolution to end his Cleveland tenure. At long last, he’s out and he’ll head to waivers.

    Figured it could use it's own thread

    Worst trade ever 

  • Kind of makes me feel sorry to wherever he lands.

    Unless it’s Shitsburgh.

  • He's absolutely going to kill it wherever he lands. Just how things work.